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Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
A friend of mine invited me to a Mormon dance at the Concord stake. I'm pretty excited, but not really sure what exactly a Mormon dance is... I mean, clearly its a dance, but he said:
quote:
If you want to come to the dance, it's church dress, meaning (for guys) slacks, white shirt, and a tie, and (for girls) a knee-length or longer skirt (preferably longer), no flip-flops, and a modest (aka not low-cut front or back and doesn't have straps) shirt.

And then we'll boogie down, Mormon style.

So my question is, am I allowed to have open-toed sandal-like heals, or should I try to find shoes that aren't open toe? Also, a bit curious as to what sort of dancing / music I should be expecting.

I'll let you all know how it went when I get back afterwards!

[ January 21, 2006, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: Dragon ]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Think of every pop song that has no swearing.

Like....

Who Let The Dogs Out
Cotten Eyed Joe is definately going to be played. I garauntee it.
Electric Slide
Probably Avril Lavigne. I don't know. Been a while.
YMCA is another definate. Ever dance I ever went to it was played.
There will be some swing played, but only 5 couples will know how to really swing. Every one else will just sort of swing their arms out and touch caddy corner shoulders altnernating.
U2 will be played.
Backstreet Boys, maybe NSync
Whatever boy band is popular.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
quote:
Cotten Eyed Joe is definately going to be played
Cotton-Eyed Joe? But, but.... in Cotton-Eyed Joe, you're supposed to say......

*nevermind*

FG
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
I'm surprised to see Who Let the Dogs Out on that list too, considering what that song is supposed to be about...

Eagerly awaiting Dragon's report!
 
Posted by sweetbaboo (Member # 8845) on :
 
Other than flip flops, you should be ok in the shoe department.

I think any music without suggestive or crude lyrics (as said above). You can sometimes request songs by bands that you like, if they have it.

Have fun.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
What is Who Let the Dogs Out supposed to be about? [Eek!]

-pH
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
I'm also surprised by the inclusion of YMCA . . .
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Can one really 'boogie down' in any style with slacks, a white shirt, and a tie on?

I think not.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
Hey, the kids in Footloose could...
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I thought the whole point of that movie was that it took one guy without a tie, slacks, and a white shirt to show the other kids how to boogie.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
Yeah...but once they learned, they did in fact boogie down in slacks, shirts, and ties. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
You can boogie. Just no, you know, dirty dancing.

I'm a little surprised at the dress code myself. Surely that stake doesn't require "church dress" at every dance? We were more casual, although still in keeping with standards of "modesty".

And they will probably play all kinds of music that could be taken two ways ... I guess assuming that it's up to everyone in the building to take it the "clean" way. [Smile] Sometimes they're expert at drawing very fine lines. When I was younger they used to play George Michael's "I Want Your Sex", but only the first verse, up until the point where he actually said "I want your sex," at which point they immediately changed it over to another song. [Roll Eyes] As if all of us didn't know what lyrics came next. Some of them prefer to go very specifically by the letter of the law and push things as far as they can go without technically stepping over the line, instead of following the spirit of keeping the music appropriate. I guess there are those kind in every religion.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
All I know is I hate wearing ties, love dancing, and mixing the two together just seems like something that goes against hte laws of nature or something.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Storm Saxon:
All I know is I hate wearing ties, love dancing, and mixing the two together just seems like something that goes against hte laws of nature or something.

Dance competitions wouldn't be your thing, then.

I have fond memories of the Stake dances I went to when I was a teenager. They were always so much more fun than the ones we have here. They play too much hip-hop music at this college. That stuff just drives me up a wall.
 
Posted by divaesefani (Member # 3763) on :
 
Just about every dance here is church dress. Just the way it goes. Open toes should be fine. We're not that conservative!

By boogie down "Mormon Style" they are probably talking about having a good time while looking stupid and no one cares! My husband and I chaperoned the New Year's Eve dance and we were sad to see that most of the music played was very difficult to dance to. But there are some good classics still played from our youth days, such as "Love Shack" and "500 Miles."

A few Mormon dance rules to keep in mind:
1. If someone asks you to dance, it's expected you will politely say yes.
2. If you dance closer than "Book of Mormon space apart," the chaperones may come and reprimand you!

In any case, they are a fun way to socialize and I hope you have a great time. They were some of my favorite times in highschool.

Boris, I totally agree about YSA dances. It's all hip-hop and techno, and hardly any slow songs! It's much harder to meet and talk to new people. I hated them.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Open toes! That sinful toe cleavage...

Edit: Will someone please tell me what Who Let the Dogs Out is really supposed to be about? I think I'm going to be scandalized.

-pH

[ January 21, 2006, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: pH ]
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Thanks guys! I know I'll have fun, and can't wait to tell you all about it!

[Smile]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
I really didn't know there was any hidden meaning to who let the dogs out. Its just been played in movies at all the most annoying times when dogs are involved that I just figured it was a couple of guys asking who let the dogs out? Who. Who who.
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
My SIL thought it was really about dogs. I tend to think it's about men who behave like dogs. But I still don't hear anything so subversive or perverted in it that I'd turn it off.

Maybe I don't know the lyrics well enough. [Smile]
 
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
 
quote:
But there are some good classics still played from our youth days, such as "Love Shack" and "500 Miles."
At the parties I went to, that's the kind of dance music they played when they wanted everyone to leave.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Oh yeah... 500 miles is classic for these dances.
 
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
 
But do they play "One Night In Bangkok"?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I have to admit that the whole thing feels kind of "Napoleon Dynamite" to me.
 
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
 
And the flip flop thing evidently doesn't apply everywhere. I see flip flops at church all the time during the summer. In fact, it was the sight of our chorister in a casual faded denim skirt and black-and-fluorescent flip flops which led me to decide that "If she can wear THAT to church and get away with it, then I can certainly wear my elegant swooshy black dress pants with heels." So I did. Nobody cared. [Smile]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
God cared. He didn't send you a Christmas card this year, did He? [Razz]
 
Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
 
Just memorise the first 15 seconds of this dance. I'm pretty sure it's one of those things you can do over and over and over and over and over and over and over again with no-one noticing that you're just repeating yourself.
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
quote:

I have to admit that the whole thing feels kind of "Napoleon Dynamite" to me.

Heh. Where do you think they got their inspiration?
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
WLTDO: the "dogs" are (allegedly) referring to unattractive and easily seduced females.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Wait until you get invited to an Orthodox Jewish dance! Dress for men: black pants, white shirt, black coat, black hat. Dress for women: skirt to ankles, long sleeves, high neck. Dance: men dance with men, in a circle. Women dance with women, in a circle. The men and women are either in separate rooms, or in the same room with a screen separating the two.

Boogie Down!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Tante has left out one pertinent detail about such dances. They are called "weddings" (or occasionally "bar mitzvahs") or "Simchas Torah."

[Big Grin]

I'm going to one Monday night. (I get to drive three hours to get there. >_< )
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Tante has left out one pertinent detail about such dances. They are called "weddings"

Oh, did I forget to mention that? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
*laughs* Yeah, minor detail.

Tante, you are amusing. I think we'll let you stay. [Smile]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
*laughs* Yeah, minor detail.

Tante, you are amusing. I think we'll let you stay. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Hey! I can stay! Twice!

<dances about happily. in a circle. with other modestly dressed women>
 
Posted by Kitsune (Member # 8290) on :
 
I thought the song was actually,

"Who? Let the dogs out!"

Like, someone's at the door and the people inside are asking who it is. And it's apparently someone the guy doesn't like so he says, let the dogs out, as in to drive the guy at the door away?

I heard that from somewhere..
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Like Mr. Burns!

-pH
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
500 Miles always seemed like the Ultimate Stalker Song to me and would crack me up.
Who the heck would walk 500 miles and fall down at your door?

Can't you just see this bloodshot, grizzled, wild-eyed man stinking to high Heaven passed out at your doorstep? You'd have to put a clothespin on your nose to keep the smell out while you called the cops!

AJ
(who still enjoyed the song)
 
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
 
LOL, When everyone said "500 Miles", I thought they were talking about the song that goes; "If you miss the train I'm on, you will know that I am gone, you can hear the whistle blow 500 miles"

And I kept thinking, how can you dance to THAT!
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LadyDove:
LOL, When everyone said "500 Miles", I thought they were talking about the song that goes; "If you miss the train I'm on, you will know that I am gone, you can hear the whistle blow 500 miles"

And I kept thinking, how can you dance to THAT!

Me too. Golly, you must be as old as, I dunno, uh, me.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Lyrics to "Who Let the Dogs Out," Exhibit A for "why this song should not be part of a Mormon dance, leaving aside its complete lack of redeeming qualities:"

quote:

Well, the party was nice, the party was jumpin'
And everybody havin' a ball;
I tell the fellas "start the name callin'"
And the girls report to the call:
The poor dog show down.

Who let the dogs out? (woof, woof, woof, woof)
Who let the dogs out?(woof, woof, woof, woof)
...

I see ya' little speed boat head up our coast;
She really want to skip town.
Get back off me, beast! Off me.
Get back, you flea-infested monger.

I'm gonna tell
To any girls calling them canine,
Tell the dummy, "Hey man, it's part of the party!"
You fetch a women in front and her man's behind;
Her bone runs out now.

Say,
A doggy is nuttin' if he don't have a bone.
All doggy, hold ya' bone; all doggy, hold it.
A doggy is nuttin' if he don't have a bone.
All doggy, hold ya' bone; all doggy, hold it.

Wait for y'all, my dogs, the party is on.
I gotta get my girl; I got my mind on.
Do you see the rays comin' from my eye?
What could you be, friend?
That Benji, man, that's breakin' them down?
"Me and my white short-shorts."
And I can't seek a lot, any canine will do;
I'm figurin' that's why they call me faithful.
'Cause I'm the man of the land:
When they see me they doah-ooooo(howl)

The song lacks a surfeit of righteousness.
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
I was thinking the same thing, and I'm not even old! [Wink]

--Mel

EDIT: Grrr, this was in response to Tante and LadyDove...
 
Posted by Swampjedi (Member # 7374) on :
 
And to think, that song is often 'aimed' at preteens by unsuspecting adults!

<mumbles>And to think I thought it was catchy...</mumbles>
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
That is because adults are stupid.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
They say woof instead of who?
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Sounds like who but I think it's supposed to be woof.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
The choice of particular "questionable" songs is more about community involvement than danceability or lyrics; although I am equally surprised about Who Let the Dogs Out. With YMCA, for instance, it is an LDS dance tradition to do specific moves at particular points in the song. Everyone, regardless of dance partners or groups or all alone, will act on those moves. I suspect that "Who Let the Dogs Out" has similar periods within the song where the group acts out particular movmements or vocalizations.

Expect two or three line dances, and not all of them Country Music inspired.
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Thanks everyone!

It was a lot of fun (good clean fun I might add), and most of the songs you mentioned were in fact played. (Although the debated Who Let the Dogs Out wasn't one of them.) Apparently the DJ takes requests by e-mail up to two weeks before the dance so he has time to check the lyrics before playing the song at the dance.

As for dress code, it was both formal and casual at the same time. People were wearing nice skirts, dress pants, ties, etc, but there were also cowboy hats and a lot of bare feet. [Smile]

One last thanks to Divaesefani for warning me about dancing "Book of Mormon space apart" - I wouldn't have thought of that, but having it in mind was very helpful, both for slow dances and throughout.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
:fondly remembers going to a Mormon-dance in bare feet:

:then remembers the piece of glass that got stuck in said bare feet:
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
How about the song is rather... well... stupid?

*is glad you had fun*

But dang... dresses @_@
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
quote:
Originally posted by LadyDove:
LOL, When everyone said "500 Miles", I thought they were talking about the song that goes; "If you miss the train I'm on, you will know that I am gone, you can hear the whistle blow 500 miles"

And I kept thinking, how can you dance to THAT!

Me too. Golly, you must be as old as, I dunno, uh, me.
I did too. And I'm young. Pratically a baby. Twenty. [Smile]
 
Posted by Swampjedi (Member # 7374) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
...adults are stupid.

Well Tom, I didn't expect you to actually admit this. [Razz]
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
hehe, does admitting it make him less stupid?
 


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