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Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
WOMAN IN AUDIENCE:
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I don't really understand. How is it the new plan going to fix the problem?'
Verbatim response: PRESIDENT BUSH:
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Because the all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled.

Look, there's a series of things that cause the like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.


 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
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Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
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Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled.
Ha! Finally! A sig for me!
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
[Wall Bash]

Well. That was clear as mud.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Well I was hoping it wasn't true, but all snopes said was that its about Social Security not medicare. Doesn't make it much better.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Hallelujah! I SEE THE LIGHT!
 
Posted by Zamphyr (Member # 6213) on :
 
Wow. That first paragraph reads like a Babelfish translation.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Did anyone see the monstrosity of gibberish that was him doing a live Q&A the other day after his speech?

One girl actually had the gall to stand up and ask him, just after he'd finished talking about how big on education he was, why he'd slashed 12 billion dollars from student loans. He said something like "what, we didn't do that, ::looks offstage:: did we? ::pause:: I'm sorry, what was the question?"

I almost prefer the staged events, at least he doesn't look as stupid.
 
Posted by Silkie (Member # 8853) on :
 
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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Did anyone see the monstrosity of gibberish that was him doing a live Q&A the other day after his speech?

One girl actually had the gall to stand up and ask him, just after he'd finished talking about how big on education he was, why he'd slashed 12 billion dollars from student loans. He said something like "what, we didn't do that, ::looks offstage:: did we? ::pause:: I'm sorry, what was the question?"

I almost prefer the staged events, at least he doesn't look as stupid.

I saw it - on Jon Stewart. Sickening.

It's not the first time I've watched a clip of him where he seemed unaware of important current events. [Dont Know] More often his handlers keep him on a leash and out of sight unless he is using a script.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I think I've developed some sort of mental callus. It doesn't hurt as much anymore, kind of like the three-hundredth time you walk across broken glass.
 
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
 
When have you walked across broken glass 300 times? [Eek!]
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Maybe it was once, across three hundred individual pieces?

Bruce Willis did, in Die Hard, maybe we should ask him.
 
Posted by Irregardless (Member # 8529) on :
 
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benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed to wage increases

Poorly transcribed. Obviously Bush said "inflation, as opposed to wage increases."
 
Posted by Lavalamp (Member # 4337) on :
 
I think it's clear he meant that. It's probable that he heard it that way inside his own head. What came out of his mouth, however, is another matter. I'd have to see the video before I decide.

I think if the only problem with this dialogue was a malaprop sprinkled here or there, there'd be no problem. Most of us misstate things from time to time because we aren't all that adept at thinking and talking at the same time. That's no big deal.

Getting the subject of the question completely wrong is a bit more worrisome. Then speaking off topic gibberish on the topic he did choose to address...well, that just screams vascular accident to me.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
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Originally posted by Brinestone:
When have you walked across broken glass 300 times? [Eek!]

Hey, I told y'all that residency was hard.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
I heard a guest on NPR explain the spending "cuts". It actually made a whole lot of sense.

The explanation is that spending "cuts" aren't always cuts. For example, a spending "cut" on prescription drugs could take the form of making manufacturers ask for less money (therefore less profit for them) rather than asking the policy holders to pay more of the cost. That is the case here, according to said guest.

Likewise, the "cut" on student loans was taken from the people who provide the loans rather than taken from the amount students would/could get. I don't quite understand how that one would work, though. :/
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Cheaper prescriptions would be good. I pay for everything out-of-pocket. For a while, I was paying more for pills than I was paying for rent and utilities.

-pH
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Benefits those without coverage? Brilliant!

You know, it's the sheer dishonesty that bugs me. No matter what you cut, someone will complain. But if you find a clever way to save money, something that is a sink-hole that doesn't need to be (like drug makers charging insane amounts for their drugs so they can make out like bandits) you get accused of taking life-saving drugs away from the poor and elderly. That just ain't right.
 


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