I usually only ask Hatrack as a last resort. This time is no exception. My Google-fu is failing me and I'm having a difficult time finding information on the history of carbon monoxide. I do not consider Wikipedia a reputable site. Neither would my teacher. I'm just looking for a blurb to put on a poster.
Anyone out there who can help me? Rivka?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
What do you mean history?
The stuff occurs naturally.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
Well, according to Wiki, "Carbon monoxide was first prepared by the French chemist de Lassone in 1776." It also says, "It was identified as a compound containing carbon and oxygen by the English chemist William Cruikshank in the year 1800." I need more information like this but I need to be able to quote it from a reputable site. A university would be nice.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
I suppose they mean, "first deliberately prepared." (Actually, that's not even true. Wasn't he actually trying to get something else? So I guess they mean "first prepared in a laboratory setting.") Because any time you have something that is burning and not getting enough oxygen (for instance, in the center of a charcoal briquette or a smouldering tree branch), carbon monoxide will be produced.
Doesn't the wikipedia article have links at the bottom? Or footnote links?
[Addit: yes, but they're pretty useless. ]
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
So.. no fun facts?
Like... did you know that haemoglobin has a higher affinity for CO than for oxygen? More bad news for smokers..
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Well, obviously. That's why it's poisonous. I don't see where this is in any way amusing, it's the first thing they tell you about CO.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
No, I don't see any, rivka.
Aiua, while it is supposed to be interesting, she really stressed that we should stay focused on straight chemistry, not too much biology or a&p. I took that as "exclude it completely."
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
Meaning, I won't be discussing how it gets into your house, prevention, or symptoms of poisioning.
(Not to mention, I don't have a lot of room to work with.)
Posted by ambyr (Member # 7616) on :
Why does it need to be an Internet source?
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
Well, it doesn't. I would like to finish the project tonight though and this is really the only information I need now. It's not due until Wednesday but I'm motivated now and would you believe my textbook has nothing on it?
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
It was a yes or no question, KoM. Congrats! You know!
quote: It was isolated for the first time in the year 1776 by J.M.F. de Lassone by heating a mixture of zinc oxide and charcoal. Aside from small concentrations in volcanic or natural gas, there are no natural sources of carbon monoxide in the world.
Ok, but they're excluding fires from "natural sources," clearly.
Oh, I know how to site but that link doesn't tell me who wrote it and why they are credible.
The first link is awesome! The second I can't get more than 75 words of it without paying (the free trial still makes you pay).
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
The fact that CO bonds with a higher affinity to haemoglobin *is* chemistry.
Edit: As for my advice, and I think the best advice that can be given here, is go to the library. There's no better time than now to learn how to do database searches for questions such as these. There's no reason you should have to come to Hatrack for a question of research, knowing how to search through libraries and periodicals is an essential skill that, sadly, very few students are good at.
And I'm not just saying that because both my parents were librarians.
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
This assignment just calls out for you to go to the library and find a book on the history of science/chemistry. Study of 'airs' was a big thing for while, so all of them should have something.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
quote: There's no reason you should have to come to Hatrack for a question of research...
I'll keep that in mind, Bob. My apologies. Just thought some of the experts here might be able to point me in the right direction.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I'm not mad Val, when I'm irritated I'm saying things like "Do your own homework!" followed by something like "you hippy!", "you ingrate!", or "you slack-jawed suburbanite!". I just wanted to impress upon you the importance of being comfortable in a library. I grew up in them, and you have no idea how valuable that was to me. And this is a question that the people at the reference desk are going to understand and give you valuable help on, as the topic of the questions push the level of their understanding it gets harder for them, so it's best to start learning your way around libraries soon.
If y'know what I'm sayin', yo.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
I understand. I just thought that because I was just writing a small paragraph on the subject it wasn't worth the time to go to the library for.
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
Hmmm, I just access my university's library through my computer with a secure shell link. That way I can peruse all their periodicals and journals for free (not to mention Lexis Nexis). I guess some "uni"s don't have that, though. And not all the reference books are available by 'puter.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
The easy thing to do is look up "carbon monoxide" pdf along with phrases such as "coal gasification" and/or "coal gas" and/or "city gas" and/or "town gas" and/or syngas and/or "hydrogen economy" and/or "Fischer-Tropsch" and/or feedstock and/or...
If ya want more citations, drop the pdf and use the other keywords/phrases in GoogleScholar
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