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Originally posted by Scott R:
Thought of Rivka and starLisa on reading this:

Ana Louise Genoese's LiveJournal

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Wow, sweet! I actually have one that I'd already started working out.

Except... it's about Purim, rather than Hanukkah, and... I'm not sure how well I'd do at straight-type romance, not having had much experience at it myself.

But it's something to think about, neh? Thanks for posting this.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
"Judaism-based magic"? *winces* They're going to end up publishing some kabbalah thing, aren't they? >_<
 

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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
Rivka, starLisa-- have either of you read 'The Key' on SciFiction?

I imagine that's the type of thing she's looking for, though I can't speak to how kosher the portrayal of kaballah is in that story.


 

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Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
 
I like that story Scott - thanks for linking to it.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Well, it certainly qualifies as "Jewish-based magic," and the author did her research. There are indeed people who believe in all that stuff.

But the rabbi was right -- they're mere superstitions, and not real kaballah. Not that it's always so easy to tell the difference.

*shudder* Not my kind of story. It reminds me of the kind of I.B.Singer stories I don't like. (I like his realistic stuff, but not his creepy stuff.)
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 

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Originally posted by rivka:
"Judaism-based magic"? *winces* They're going to end up publishing some kabbalah thing, aren't they? >_<

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Worse. They'll probably wind up with something Red Tent-y. Unless they get a submission that's good enough that's respectful of Judaism.

Tor published Lord of the Two Lands and Throne of Isis, both by Judith Tarr. Both are fantasy-romance-historicals, only based in Egypt and with Egyptian magic. From the way she described what she wants, it's basically a Jewish version of those.

I have to finish the thing I'm working on now (or Havah is going to kill me), but then I'm going to give this a try. I think I can put enough kabbalah-type stuff in to satisfy her, and do it in a way that won't be offensive from a frum POV. Maybe.
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
Jachid and Jachidah? I actually liked that one.

There's a book called New Altars, which is a collection of religious/spiritual science fiction. There's a story in there that involves a guy programming the Etz Hayim into a computer. He winds up meeting King David. It's kind of weird, but also kind of cool.
 

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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I don't remember the name of the story, but in Asimov's a while back they had an AI-coming-of-age story. The computer comes to self-awareness, and immediately holds the world's electrical systems hostage while she converses with a rabbi, and tries to convert to Judaism.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
You know, rivka and starLisa aren't the ONLY two Jews on this forum.

I think it's pretty cool too!
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Right. He completely forgot about Ela.
 

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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
That's true, but they're the only two that I know of who write science fiction.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
*blink* I write science fiction?

Not in over 10 years I haven't -- not unless you count a couple abortive attempts at fanfic.
 

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Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Louis & Clark/Voyager crossover stories?
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
The fanfics were Lois & Clark (no Sacajawea, and no Janeway).

But I'd happily read a crossover.
 

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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
Well, if you don't, you should.

I actually thought you were a writer. All in all, it's not a bad thing to be mistaken for.
 

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Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
 
I enjoyed "Go Toward the Light" by Harlan Ellison in his collection Slippage, myself.

Though, I don't know how well it would sit with many of the Jews on this board. It's a bit irreverent, but so is most of Ellison's stuff.

Edit: Synopsis is here about halfway down the page.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Alas, my muse has left me. The voices that once whispered in my ear are silent. (Some people would say that's a good thing. )

And you are correct -- it is certainly not a bad thing to be mistaken for.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I believe I've read that Ellison . . . but I can recall no details.
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I find pretty much anything Ellison writes about Jews or Judaism to be incredibly embarrassing. I love Ellison's writing other than that. Even (maybe especially) the autobiographical rants he uses to introduce his stories.

He had a story in Wandering Stars (the first anthology of Jewish science fiction), which I think also contained that "Jachid and Jachidah" story by Singer. Ellison's was... I think "Looking for Kadak". It had aliens who shtupped by sticking their fingers into belly buttons. Not kidding. I couldn't make stuff like that up.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 

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Originally posted by rivka:
Right. He completely forgot about Ela.

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That's it. You're fired as my surrogate Jewish mother.
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
And let's not forget Jonathan Howard.
 

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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I was thinking something revolving around Yehudit as a main character.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
There are a good deal more besides Ela and Jonathan Howard, starLisa. I was just being jabbed at by rivka.
 

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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Teased! Gently teased!

And you can't fire me. It's in the contract.
 

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Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Hrmnph!

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