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Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
I am unsure how many Rush fans are still lurking around here, but there must be a few left. Well, it's time to come out of the woodwork because I have stumbled across some fantastic news.

quote:
With a bit of luck we will have an album out early in 2007 and then go out on the road maybe next spring if we are lucky. It's a little too early to tell yet what direction the new material is taking, but Alex and I are just having a blast. We are getting songs written so we are getting there. We kind of record while we write and we would say that we will write and record for the duration of this year. You just never know where it is going to go. I think that's what keeps it fun for us and I am glad that there are people out there that appreciate that.

-Geddy Lee, sometime in the last couple weeks

I can't wait. [Big Grin] I just hope it's a far cry from Vapor Trails, which ended up being one of my least favorite albums. Mostly I am excited about the mention of a tour - I missed the last one and was worried it may have been my last chance.

So, who else out there cares?
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
I can think of at least one person who will be very excited.
 
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
 
Yeah, me! [The Wave] [Party]
 
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
 
And me.
 
Posted by Mazer (Member # 192) on :
 
Sweet.
 
Posted by Peek (Member # 7688) on :
 
peek approves of the rush.

Dude [Cool] peekaboo

Yeah.
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Excellent news, Jeni. Hopefully they will hit the DC area on the tour...
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
It's been rumored that both AC/DC and The Who are at work on new albums, as well.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Excellent news, Jeni. Hopefully they will hit the DC area on the tour...
??????
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Limbaugh?
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Yep. His album is actually going to be him impersonating Pat Boon singing songs written by the band Rush.
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dagonee:
quote:
Excellent news, Jeni. Hopefully they will hit the DC area on the tour...
??????
I thought you might catch that. [Smile]

I still have to get the TS clearence. See Sake (I was going to do it last night but I couldn't get on)
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
Yay!

[Party]

Jeni, where did Geddy say that? Do you have a link to the article?
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
New Rush?!?! Awesome!!

And I may have to ignore any new Who music... it's just not quite the same with half the band gone. I do like both Daltrey and Townshend, but they lost something when Moon passed, and now without Entwistle... {shakes head}.

Speaking of Moon, though, did anyone else hear that Mike Myers (Shrek) is slated to play Moon in some upcoming biopic???
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
I got it from this page, but didn't find it on the site they link to.
 
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
 
Awesome. I really, really hope they come to South Florida. I missed their 30th anniversary tour when they came close to me and I was so pissed. Rush is in my top 5 favorite bands all-time and Geddy Lee is one of my favorite bassists.
 
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
 
I don't see anything about this on Rush's homepage. Are we sure this is true?
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goody Scrivener:
Speaking of Moon, though, did anyone else hear that Mike Myers (Shrek) is slated to play Moon in some upcoming biopic???

I had heard that...I think I read it in Entertainment Weekly.
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GaalDornick:
I don't see anything about this on Rush's homepage. Are we sure this is true?

Hmmm, it is odd that it's not on rush.com yet. I remember during the 1997-2001 interregnum there were lots of rumors about upcoming albums that didn't happen. So there is precedent for incorrect reports about their plans ... But hopefully this is really true!
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
He should tour with John Ashcroft.


"Let the Eagle soaaaar"
 
Posted by Sopwith, again (Member # 9457) on :
 
It is about time for a new album. So glad to hear that it's at least starting to come along. Man, I agree that Vapor Trails wasn't one of their better albums.

Although the Rush in Rio concert DVD was a pretty good show! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Dav- I have heard other quotes from Geddy and Alex of work on a new album in a few other places in the last couple months. This is just the first I've heard of an actual timeline.

And yes, Rush in Rio is fantastic. It was a pretty great setlist. And Alex rambling during La Villa Strangiato? Hilarious. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
Sweeeeet.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
For those who questioned whether this was just a rumor... I have a new link!

http://www.neilpeart.net/news/index.html

Neil talks about working on the new album last month in Toronto. Check out the excerpt from an email he wrote about a quarter way down the page. Good stuff.

Oh, and a different excerpt near the bottom of the page:

quote:
On the drive back yesterday, I did have the opportunity to listen to the new songs with some objectivity, in my favorite listening environment, and I wanted to tell you I think they are great! The freshest stuff we have done since — well, ever!

As I intuited when I first heard your song sketches, there is something very different about the character of these songs, and I’m really pleased by that.



[ June 30, 2006, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: Jeni ]
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
I thought I'd share my latest news. The word on the web is that the new Rush album, titled "Snakes and Arrows," is scheduled to hit the shelves May 1. The first single from the album, "Far Cry," will be released on radio March 13. Tour should begin mid-June.

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=347988
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Does naming a song after a video game constitute jumping the shark? [Razz]
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
It's been rumored that both AC/DC and The Who are at work on new albums, as well.

I was 50% right here. Because The Who did release a new album.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
AAHHH! I love Rush. I disagree with the Vapor Trails haters. I thought that was an awesome album, just very poorly produced.

I can't WAIT until May. I need new Rush NOW!

Top 3 favorite bands: Yes, Rush, Dream Theater, with Spock's Beard/Neal Morse a close fourth.
 
Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :
 
Yeah, sweet.
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Vapor Trails has some amazing muscianship and is an interesting songwriting direction. I don't have any problem with the production value either.

It's just that the songs, almost all of them, are not really finished out. They went for a more imporvisational feel, and left the songs a lot more raw and un-arranged than normal and it shows. A lot. they (mostly) don't go anywhere and are a little longer and more repetitive than they should be ("Sweet Miracle" being the *glaring* exception and one of their best songs ever, I think). I thought what they played live went over well, but I don't listen to that CD a whole lot. I think it's daring and interesting, but I just don't enjoy it very much. I *do* enjoy listening to individual songs off of it... but I can't take the whole CD in one sitting, usually.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
Well, Project 86 has a new CD coming out in June.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
I think you may be missing something Jim-Me. Ceiling Unlimited is friggin amazing, in spite of having a serious flaw with the fade-out. When the play it live, they end with the hard riff that comes next earlier in the song. Freeze is repetitious, but the repetition causes a incredible climax (not to mention the awesome time sig changes in the song). Secret Touch is just a monster. So is Peacable Kindom. Earthshine can put you in a trance if you're in the right place; and how about the super-subtle half-time feel in the chorus of The Stars Look Down, one of Rush's most beautiful songs? I don't know, I think you're missing something. Best CD they'd done since Signals, if you ask me.
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
I like Vapor Trails, though it isn't one of my favorites. The sound quality wasn't that clear to my ears. An overly "hot" mix (if you rip a VP track to a .wav and look at it in a sound editor, you can see how clipped it is) combined with Alex getting carried away with lots of overdubs kind of reduced the clarity too much for my taste.

Even so, I still like it and listen to it. "Ghost Rider", "Earthshine", and "Secret Touch" are all especially good for me.

I'm really curious what "Snakes and Arrows" will be like. And I'm curious what kinds of subjective and contradictory opinions everyone will have about it [Smile]
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Don't disagree with any of those, individually, Biggle. The end of, well, pretty much all of, "Secret Touch" in particular is very cool. There's great music on it, it's just not as meticulously crafted... which is what they were going for. It's all good.

Perhaps the best way to put it is that it takes too much work to listen to... which doesn't mean that the careful listener isn't rewarded.
 
Posted by GaalDornick (Member # 8880) on :
 
Regardless of which songs you like or don't like, you have to admit every note Geddy Lee hits has more talent in it thatn 99% of the crap that gets played on the radio these days.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jim-Me:

Perhaps the best way to put it is that it takes too much work to listen to... which doesn't mean that the careful listener isn't rewarded.

We are talking about Rush, here.

Yeah, the sound quality sucks, though. This is an album to hear live.

I don't like Ghost Rider (though I liked the book). That song and Nocturne are my least favorites on the CD.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
http://www.fmqbproductions.com/epks/2007/rush/content/rush_farcry_clip.mp3
 
Posted by Mr.Intel (Member # 10057) on :
 
Thanks for the links, Jeni. I've been a Rush fan since middle school (Power Windows) and it warms my heart to see a new album emerge after all they've been through (especially Neil).

The clip was a little, well, clipped, but it sounds good, despite its connection with the video game. [Wink]
 
Posted by stihl1 (Member # 1562) on :
 
I heard their new song tonight and it ounded good to me. And I'm not even a rush fan.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Yes the new single can now be found in its entirety on rush.com. I have a feeling I am going to like this album much better than Vapor Trails. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
I missed this till just now... I do like the new song.

Is there any info on what "Snakes and Arrows" means?
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
"Snakes and Arrows" is an ancient Hindu game, which was a precursor to the modern game "Chutes and Ladders". It has something to do with the journey of the soul.

At least, that's what I've gathered from various web sites when I tried to figure it out ... Any experts on Hindu culture around here who can explain it more?
 
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
 
Yep, I'm definitely buying this album.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
It's been rumored that both AC/DC and The Who are at work on new albums, as well.

I was 50% right here. Because The Who did release a new album.
The Who's touring as well.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I'm expecting the new Metallica album. Supposedly, it's supposed to be more like Master of Puppets. And there will be solos. It could be a return to form for them.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
What does everyone think of the new album?
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I just listened to the Great White North album a couple of weeks ago. I mention this because of Geddy Lee's "Gu-lu-ku-ku-ku-ku-ku-ku"ing in the title song.
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
I think it's excellent. I don't know yet whether I'll consider it one of their greatest albums ever, but I'm enjoying getting to know the songs.

It seems to me that Far Cry was actually the least "Snakes & Arrows"-ish song of all of them, and it's also probably my favorite so far.

And I really love all three of the instrumentals. Each one of those is cool in its own way. I hope they play them live!
 
Posted by lem (Member # 6914) on :
 
Grrr....Fox News is dead to me.

quote:
Rush is back. The big hair, fake falsetto heavy metal group that made the 1980s so irrelevant musically sold 84,000 copies for Atlantic Records last week with a new album called "Snakes & Arrows." Never underestimate the low standards of the buying public, I guess. Journey, Poison, shoulder pads and perms shouldn't be too far behind at this rate.
Big hair? Fake falsetto? Comparing them to Poison?

[Wall Bash]
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Clearly that person has no business writing entertainment news. Heavy metal? Back?

Anyway, I still haven't really listened to Snakes and Arrows all the way through. So far the standouts to me are all the instrumental tracks, especially The Main Monkey Business. The only other song that caught my ear so far is Bravest Face.

I am really enjoying this album - I think it's much, much better than Vapor Trails. It's a much fresher, newer sound than I expected.

The one thing about it that is throwing me off is the vocals. The timing of them in a lot of parts just seems really odd - they don't mesh well with the music at all. It's distracting. Anyone else feeling that way?
 
Posted by SoaPiNuReYe (Member # 9144) on :
 
Journey was good too, I don't know why Fox suddenly thinks that it is suddenly the decider of what music is good and what isn't.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
On an unrelated note, the new CD released by The Wedding totally rocks. And so does the new Haste the Day CD. And I'm really looking forward to the new Project 86 CD.

Edit:

Journey is good. I'm not big on poison. But Journery really are good. They helped define an era of music.
 
Posted by Speed (Member # 5162) on :
 
quote:
Rush is back. The big hair, fake falsetto heavy metal group that made the 1980s so irrelevant musically sold 84,000 copies for Atlantic Records last week with a new album called "Snakes & Arrows." Never underestimate the low standards of the buying public, I guess. Journey, Poison, shoulder pads and perms shouldn't be too far behind at this rate.
They made the 1980s irrelevant?? Their '80s output was classic. Permanent Waves. Signals. Moving Pictures. It wasn't until 1996 that "Virtuality" was unleashed upon an unwilling public.

quote:
Net boy, net girl
Send your signal 'round the world
Let your fingers walk and talk
And set you free

Net boy, net girl
Send your impulse 'round the world
Put your message in a modem
And throw it in the Cyber Sea

Mmmm. Now that's some good irrelevance. [Wink]
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
Don't forget Dog Years. A good album musically, though. Apparently Peart need his wife and daughter to die to get him writing good lyrics again.


Too harsh?
 
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
 
A little. Actually a lot.
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jeni (in June 2006):
I can't wait. [Big Grin] I just hope it's a far cry from Vapor Trails, which ended up being one of my least favorite albums.

"a far cry" from VT? Jeni, did you know what the single was gonna be before the album was released?

------

The album is really great, much better than VT (which was a tough to get into, as others have mentioned). I especially like The Main Monkey Business, Faithless, Hope and The Bravest Face. Waaaaaay cool.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
See, there's a reason to ignore Fox News . . . *grin*
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
Hi Shan! *waves*
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
Limbaugh?

Not that I'm a Limbaugh fan, but honestly, that's what I thought the thread was about...
[Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
A little. Actually a lot.

Yeah. Sorry Neal, since I know you read these!


Actually, I understand how that could really hurt the feelings of someone who has lost a loved one. But since I've lost loved ones, don't I have a right? Or is everyone just gonna be super-sensetive about everything?

What am I talking about. It's the Hatrack forums. OF COURSE everyone is gonna get their little feelings hurt!
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
I think "Dog Years" is a very fun and light-hearted song. I'm surprised how often people put it down; I always enjoy listening to it.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
I like the song. Like most of the songs on the CD, I dislkie the lyrics but love the music.

"I'd rather be a tortoise from Galapagos, or a span of geological time."

Like Virtuality, as mentioned above. Lyrics are awful, but then the badassness near the end with the BWaonng...bmp bmp, bippa BWaonng.. ..bippa BWAONNG BWAONNG!!! Duh-duh-duh--dudda duh- dudda-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh- dudda-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM!!!!!

Oh yeah. I'm sorry to anyone who was offended by my callous statement above about Neil's family.
 
Posted by Dav (Member # 8217) on :
 
I guess we just have to agree to disagree about how good or not good those lyrics are [Smile]
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Has anyone gone to any of the shows yet?

This is somewhat old news, but if anyone is interested in the (general) setlist here it is:


Set 1:

Video Intro

Limelight
Digital Man
Entre Nous
Mission
Freewill
The Main Monkey Business
The Larger Bowl
Secret Touch
Circumstances
Between The Wheels
Dreamline

Intermission

Set 2:

Video Intro

Far Cry
Workin' Them Angels
Armor And Sword
Spindrift
The Way The Wind Blows
Subdivisions
Natural Science
Witch Hunt
Malignant Narcissism
Drum Solo (completely new solo)
Hope
Summertime Blues
The Spirit Of Radio
Tom Sawyer

Encore:

One Little Victory
A Passage to Bangkok
YYZ


I am not too excited. [Frown] How did Summertime Blues get a spot? And I hate, hate, hate Between the Wheels.

[ July 17, 2007, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: Jeni ]
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
Love Between the Wheels and haven't seen it live in over 20 years... and still won't because I'm not going to get to see this tour either.

Plus, the set list has to have some variance in it... a friend of mine who saw them in DC said they played Bravado.

Secret Touch is one of the best songs off Vapor Trails, and may be surpassing Sweet Miracle as my favorite. I *do* so want to see Witch Hunt live again before I die, and The Digital Man was a really cool tune (even if The Analog Kid was the better of the two [Smile] )
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
True, supposedly the encore has changed from show to show and I also heard that they switched Digital Man with Analog Kid at some places.

Also they apparantly started replacing Summertime Blues with Distant Early Warning at a few shows.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Rush will be going on another tour in 2008, according to rush.com!
 


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