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Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
For the first time in the history of mankind, a tool can give us the opportunity to be everywhere instantly. A kind of collective consciousness online. I feel this is a wonderful opportunity for humanity to 'get over it' and really become what it needs to become in order to survive the coming climatic chaos.

Chatting, forums, even Troll Shamaning seems, very well the next evolutionary step into a real consensus of reality. Reality can finally be accepted upon. Of course, it's not a perfect world, and there's lots to do.

Comments?
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Evil me sez: pandora's box!
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
Reality can finally be accepted upon.
I don't know how much you know about networking infrastructure, Robin, but people in the IT industry talk about "layers" across which information travels. On a metaphorical level, sure, the Internet exists as a reality -- but it's just another layer of traffic. And like networking layers, it's absolutely dependent upon the continued functioning of the layers beneath it in order to exist.

You may not think that this in any way affects its reality, and there are other people on this board alone who'd agree with you. I do, though. I think that the underlying "layers" that support and enable this online consensual reality are more real precisely because they're more essential. We still need to eat and breathe and sleep and have sex and do all the things required of our physical bodies; we still need to earn money to pay for our computers and our Internet connections, which still need to physically exist. And only after all these things are done, only after we've met all these needs which still cannot be fulfilled on a computer, can we hop online and play at being trolls.
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Tom: the factor that I am most interested in is distance.

You can meditate to such an extent that you can have telepathic communication with your relatives in far away places without the need of a computer.

But getting to know somebody you've never met, somebody totally novel, halfway across the world.. Now THATS' a nice thing to do.

Do you have a link that explains these 'layers'?

I have met at least two likeminded souls online through these internet thinngies. I hope to meet many more!

Still tho.. I'd never change 'it' for real life. How can you explain the smell of a flower? Or the taste of a kiss?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

You can meditate to such an extent that you can have telepathic communication with your relatives in far away places without the need of a computer.

Sorry, I'm a skeptic; I don't believe this IS possible.

quote:
Do you have a link that explains these 'layers'?
http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/OSI_Layers.asp
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Tom: I am very saddened by this.

Believing is 90% of the work.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I believe you are an @ss.


See? It works, Tom...he is! [Wink]
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
[ROFL]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
Believing is 90% of the work.
I don't believe that.
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Oh ye of little faith.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Oh ye of too much.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I didn't say I had little faith. I have a great deal of faith. I'm just extraordinarily picky about the things I choose to put my faith in.
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Well, Tom..

What if I told you that I have a telepathic niece and nephew? What if I told you that Indigos the world over are runing around reading our thoughts as easily as you read the newspaper?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I'd say you were being ridiculous, and point to the obvious fact: that none of the people I know who claim to be psychic are in any way successful, and certainly not as successful -- in love, money, spirit, etc. -- as I am. And I don't have a hint of psychic power.

So assuming that I'm roughly equal in non-supernatural capacity, how is it that THEY, blessed with the ability to read the minds and souls of the people around them -- or a great distance away -- usually wind up living in trailers, borrowing to make rent, and complaining about the Man while smoking a great deal of pot?
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
because they are sufficiently detached from the material to worry excessively about the spiritual Tom..

Being a psychic does not mean that you crave power or somesuch. Unless it is given to you by the Orishas in which case yer screwed and you have to deal with it..
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
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because they are sufficiently detached from the material to worry excessively about the spiritual Tom
I have yet to meet someone who is sufficiently detached from the material world that he or she does not care about being able to -- just as an example -- afford his rent. Unless a precondition of being a psychic is that you aren't allowed to use your power for anything remotely useful, I have yet to meet someone who claims to be a psychic whose life might conceivably meet the minimum standard I'd accept for that claim.

I find it difficult to believe that someone capable of psychic projection would find it necessary to ask me for ten bucks.
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
Especially when you're paying 50 to 1 for accurate disaster prediction.
 
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
 
Robin, if your niece and nephew are interested in early retirement and/or getting their college funding paid for, you may want to collect on this million dollar reward for proof of psychic powers.

http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

I almost believe you are saying all this as a joke deliberately to see our reactions. Your statements are so absurd, that I actually find them funny and irritating at the same time.

While they may or may not be interested in material wealth, it would certainly stop people like me from laughing at you and thinking you were delusional.
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Somewhere along the way, I was warned about this by some psychic, but whatahe!?
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
"I see in your future that many will reject your crackpot notions." - KarlEd - internet psychic.

Now you've been warned twice. [Wink]
 
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
 
No seriously. I'm not kidding you. That is $1,000,000 that they can collect.

Nothing to be wary of. Your niece and nephew can communicate telephathically. That would constitute a paranormal power. That is a $1,000,000 reward for anyone who can demonstrate a paranormal power.

Put your money where your mouth is. Either they can, in which case thats $1,000,000 just waiting to be collected, or youre delusional and full of you know what.
 
Posted by Robin Kaczmarczyk (Member # 9067) on :
 
Money can't buy you love, Trapper.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
quote:
Either they can, in which case thats $1,000,000 just waiting to be collected, or youre delusional and full of you know what.
I'm not sure this is an "either/or" statement.
 
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
 
Looks like the answer is delusional and full of you know what.

And I really do believe that it is an either or statement. If you want to give extreme hypothetical situations, you may come up with something that has a 1 in a million chance of happening, but other than extremes, that is a either or statement.
 
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
 
Correction: Its an either, either or situation.

1) robins statements are accurate
2) Robin truely believes his statements, in which case he is delusional
3) Robin is a liar.
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
I think perhaps she's saying that it's quite possible that Robin's relatives are psychic and he's still full of you-know-what on other issues. [Smile] That would be my feeligns, anyway.
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Wow. Mocking people for their beliefs, thats cool.
 
Posted by camus (Member # 8052) on :
 
Unfortunately, with some people we don't know what their beliefs actually are, just that they are willing to say provocative things to get a reaction.
 


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