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Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
I read All Star Superman #4 today. It's a truly crazy comic. This issue is both a parody and a valentine directed at the insane stories Jimmy Olsen went through back in the Silver Age. Yes, even the stories where he cross-dressed.

(Superman comics of the 60s were bizarre beyond belief. Do a Google search for 'Jimmy Olsen, Transvestite.' You'll see what I mean.)

This story is utterly nonsensical, but I loved every moment of it. Jimmy Olsen hasn't been so much FUN in years! (Though Gail Simone's take came close.)

This comic may make no sense, but it's filled with life and invention, action and humor.

I refuse to believe that Miller is crazier than Morrison (just not possible. Morrison is NUTS!), so how come his All Star comic is no fun at all?

No fun, except to the Jim Lee-lovin' zombies and those Miller-ites who've convinced themselves it's a brilliant satire.

Puzzling. [Smile]

[ June 22, 2006, 01:46 AM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]
 
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
 
Sounds interesting, actually.

You know, I hate to say this, but Frank Miller oughtta die soon. You know, before he can rape more of my childhood memories with his "I'm Frank Miller and I'm really really gritty, so let's grit this up" schtick. And the insistence that everyone is either (a) a martial arts expert of some kind, (b) a hooker, (c) a corrupt authority (there is no other type), or (d) (a) and (b) together *coughMihocough*.
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
I thought you were talking about Toni Morrison and Arthur Miller in the title. All I could think was that in my opinion, it's the opposite.

<----knows nothing about comics, except what you pick up as a Whedon fan.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/saruhime/saraasjimmyolsen4.jpg

last halloween at my job.

i gave all star batman and robin three issues. if you can't pull that ish together in three issues, there is no way i am going to pick up a number four.
i honestly think miller knows it's trash. that's the word on the street, anywho.
i would also like to mention that thanks to frank quietly, jimmy olsen and i now have the same hair. the transformation is almost complete! zee zee zee!
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
quote:
You know, I hate to say this, but Frank Miller oughtta die soon.
Joldo, there's a line. And when you wish death on someone because you don't enjoy their writing style -- (really, he should die for being gritty? Really?) -- you have crossed that line.

Frank Miller is a great writer and a great guy.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I think Joldo's point is that Miller is no longer a great writer. While I don't wish death upon him, I have come to wish that he'd stop writing.
 
Posted by Mig (Member # 9284) on :
 
Haven't read Allstar Superman #4 yet. But #2 goes down as one of my favorite comics ever. To date, the series has shown Morrison's a great love and respect for the character and the "world" of Superman. Each issue of All-Star Batman on the other hand has left a bad after taste. Can't help but get the feeling that Miller is just trying to make a living off his old glory. (No doubt that Dark Knight Returns is one of the top 5 comics ever). The sense I get get from All-star Batman is that Miller is sick of the character and just wants to see how far he can push it. I think Miller is a talented writer, but it may be that he needs to move on and try something other than Batman to show us that he's still got it.
 
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
 
quote:
Joldo, there's a line. And when you wish death on someone because you don't enjoy their writing style -- (really, he should die for being gritty? Really?) -- you have crossed that line.
The "Miller oughtta die" bit isn't seriously meant. What I mean is that he needs to put his pen away and not pick it back up.
 
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blacwolve:
I thought you were talking about Toni Morrison and Arthur Miller in the title. All I could think was that in my opinion, it's the opposite.

And I was thinking Van Morrison and Steve Miller, and trying to figure out what lyrics you were talking about.
 
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
I read All Star Superman #4 today. It's a truly crazy comic. This issue is both a parody and a valentine directed at the insane stories Jimmy Olsen went through back in the Silver Age. Yes, even the stories where he cross-dressed.

(Superman comics of the 60s were bizarre beyond belief. Do a Google search for 'Jimmy Olsen, Transvestite.' You'll see what I mean.)

Check out Superdickery.com for the most bizarre covers.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
I thought Jim Morrison cuz, you know, "Morrison" and "madness" naturally suggests...
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
I think Miller needs to write at least a few pages in Sin City inbetween working on issues of other titles, to syphon the ultra-gritty sex & violence out of his system so he can write something remotely normal for the more mainstream titles.

I haven't read All-Stars, because I pretty much only pick up trade paperbacks and don't like following things issue to issue.

--Enigmatic
 


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