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Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I almost never see people using the word "jibe" any more.
quote:
jibe
intr.v. Informal jibed, jib·ing, jibes
To be in accord; agree: Your figures jibe with mine.

Instead, they use the word "jive", which, while it sounds similar, doesn't mean remotely the same thing.
quote:
jive
n.
1.a. Jazz or swing music.
b. The jargon of jazz musicians and enthusiasts.
2. Slang. Deceptive, nonsensical, or glib talk: "the sexist, locker-room jive of men boasting and bonding" (Trip Gabriel).

v. jived, jiv·ing, jives
v. intr.

1. To play or dance to jive music.
2. Slang.
a. To talk nonsense; kid.
b. To talk or chat: "You just jive in one big group, putting each other on, trying to top the last line" (Time).

v. tr. Slang
To cajole or mislead.

adj. Slang
Misleading; phony.

So please, don't say that one account doesn't jive with another account. It makes my brain itch.
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
Oh! I didn't know that jive wasn't the correct word in that context. Good to know.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Ooh. I half to keep that in mine. I should of known.
 
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
 
>.<
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
::squints::

Lisa, I don't much like the cut of your jiv.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Why don't you just except it? Your just unable to get over it when people don't follow the tenants of speaking good?
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
THE GRAMMAR! IT BURNS! *hisses*
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
::sacrifices Steve on the Alter of Grammer and Spelling::
 
Posted by Zeugma (Member # 6636) on :
 
D'oh! Thanks for pointing that out! :-D
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
What am I supposed to do now? Being sacrificed and all...
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Don't worry. Virtual fire doesn't really effect anything anyway.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
You're virtually fired!
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
I feel simply retched now. [Frown]
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I am so board here at work. I am literally climbing the wall's with boredom as I sit here at my desk.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Me to.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
[Edit-I started to add something else, but I decided that it was a mute point, so I deleted it.]
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
starLisa, your experience totally jives with mine.

-Bok
 
Posted by Amilia (Member # 8912) on :
 
You know, I knew that jive meant "to play or dance to jive music." I just assumed that when ideas started to jive (To be in accord; agree) that meant that they were both hearing the same music and dancing to the same beat. Had no idea that I was actually combining two completely different words.
 
Posted by BaoQingTian (Member # 8775) on :
 
Stop it Icarus!! Its terrible- you're mistakes make those with prefect grammar want to claw there eyes out.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
::sacrifices Steve on the Alter of Grammer and Spelling::

[ROFL]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
This thread makes my eyes cross and my brain hurt.

I hope your awl very happy.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
This thread makes my eyes cross and my brain hurt.

I always thought you were suppose two dot you're eyes and cross you're tees.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Supposably you are, but I dont think any body really does that. Mabye some people do I guess, you never know.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
I think either way is allright.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
My four-grade edjamucashun learner learnded me to talk GOOD American.

I never confuses jive with jibe.
 
Posted by dantesparadigm (Member # 8756) on :
 
Well, irregardless of all these grammer issues, I find that the end result is a perfectly cognizable conversation. But Ill still alter my future plans to utilize this new grammercalogical discovery.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Davidson's rule run amuck!
 
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
 
Oh, god, I'm going to loose my mind!
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Their their. [Smile]

Just lay down . . . it will all feel better in the morning.
 
Posted by Alien Touring (Member # 9568) on :
 
Its ok -- were all in this together!
 
Posted by Lissande (Member # 350) on :
 
I may have to quit Hatrack now.

*cries*
 
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
 
I remember reading something back in the 70's that said "their stories didn't jive."

Yet it's not even in m-w.com.

Hm. I'm so used to "jive" with this meaning I hate to give it up. I wonder how many think "jibe" *doesn't* have this meaning -- as I did till just now?
 
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Icarus:
Ooh. I half to keep that in mine. I should of known.

Ouch.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
I've noticed this trend as well. To the point that I hesitate to use jibe because I'm afraid others will think it's wrong!
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Will B:
I remember reading something back in the 70's that said "their stories didn't jive."

Yet it's not even in m-w.com.

I think that dictionaries might be slower to accept new definitions that are based on errors.
 
Posted by happymann (Member # 9559) on :
 
The OED says about jive, v.
quote:
1. a. trans. To mislead, to deceive, to ‘kid’; to taunt or sneer at. Also intr., to talk jive, to talk nonsense, to act foolishly.
b. intr. To make sense; to fit in. U.S. Cf. JIBE v.

And in some languages V and B are interchangeable (just a random note).
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Well then, "jibe" also means to steer a sailboat from one tack to another with the wind astern, so the sail snaps from one side to the other rather violently.

Like Jack did to Will.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by happymann:
And in some languages V and B are interchangeable (just a random note).

But not in English, where they're never interchangeable.
 


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