I know, we've got the Season 2 thread going. Somewhere easily accessible by using that handy "Search" feature.
This is different. This is Season 2 spoiler-laden speculation for Season 3. We should, however, try to keep Season 3 spoilers to an absolute minimum - or at least properly noted.
That said, here's a treat for all the US (for now) viewers: The webisodes have started! Titled "The Resistance," the webisodes plan to chronicle some of the time on New Caprica wherein the Resistance is formed. And the first one's up! Just in time to prevent too many deaths from lack of BSG So go to the following link and see some familiar faces talking about... unfamiliar things.
(NB: SciFi's got some sort of IP-checker thingy going, so there have been many many problems for people outside of the US trying to view - and this includes those crazy Canucks.)
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Awesome! Thanks for the link.
I can't wait for the new season to come out. I'm looking forward to this and LOST with equal enthusiasm.
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
So what do you think about Duck's decision? And how badly is Jammer going to take the move?
Posted by Mike (Member # 55) on :
Who is Jammer? and Duck? Have we seen them before?
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
Making Middle East insurgents out of the cast is a brilliant move, and it looks like they aren't pulling any punches. I'm impressed.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Jammer's been visible several times - he was the one naysaying the Blackbird in "Flight of the Phoenix," most notably. He was also the one Cally punched when they were building the Cylon prison cell aboard Galactica in "Resistance."
Duck... has been around, hiding in the background. He was at one of the briefings and in the bunkroom in "Scar," I'm pretty sure, and apparently he was in "Flight of the Phoenix" and "The Captain's Hand," but I'd have to watch them again to see what he does. Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
Was hoping for more than a couple minutes worth but i suppose some BSG is better than no BSG
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Irami Osei-Frimpong, you seem to be equating the human survivors of Galatica with Islamofascist terrorists, and Israelis and Americans and Western Civilization in general with the Cylons. Is that really the way you see things? The Islamofascist terrorists alone are human, and Jews and westerners are non-human? That kind of attitude is 100% of the problem in the Middle East.
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
Ron, did you even watch the clip? The human survivors on new caprica were hiding their weapon stores and planning their insurrection against the cylons in a church. How can you NOT make the connection?
Morality and whether or not their cause is just aside, the tactics are relatively sound for an outmanned, outgunned militia or army or insurrection
Posted by starLisa (Member # 8384) on :
Maybe, but once you do it, you can't complain if the other side targets such places. The Capricans are taking a risk doing what they're doing. If it blows up in their faces and temples start getting bombed, I don't imagine that they'll be writing editorials and talking to the press (so to speak) about how horrible it is that the Cylons are bombing temples. You make choices, and you pay the price.
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
The tactical parallels are obvious, but the clincher for me were the moral ones, including when the police recruitment poster was ripped down.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Survival of your country, one thing. Survival of the species, totally another.
For the survival of the race anything goes. (I guess that's the problem in the Middle-east, tribalism is so fierce they see their clans as their species.)
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
On another note, I'm still worried about the Colonials fading high-technology. Maybe now that the Cylons are in command they are supplying the means to preserve it, at least for now. As was mentioned in the Season 2 thread it takes a huge base of infrustructure to maintain high technology...an instrustructure the Colonials no longer have.
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Yes, TrapperKeeper, I watched the clip. I thought it was outrageous to hide weapons in a holy place. But just because the Capricans are using some methods of today's Islamofacists, that does not equate them. As Talperion the Silver well said, the problem in the Mideast is that "tribalism is so fierce they see their clans as their species." I might add, the problem also is that some Islamic radicals see their religion as their species, and suppose that no one else has a right to exist, and are expendable. They do not see the importance of freedom of choice, especially where choosing one's religion is concerned. It is absolutely reprehensible and totally worthy of universal condemnation that many Islamic states have laws forbidding conversion from Islam, forbidding Christian evangelism, and even threatening death to anyone who converts from Islam to Christianity. What an utter admission of the inferiority of Islam, to think it must be protected by force from people making a free choice for themselves!
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
OSC has said too in his essays that the one way attitude of Islam (one man enter, no man leave) is an issue.
What I like about BSG is that they take the issues from both sides and are not afraid to deal with the contraversy.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Anyone still keeping up with the webisodes?
Only 15 days left!
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
I have been watching the webisodes (on youtube - episode 6 hasn't been posted there yet from what I can see). They have been pretty good but it is clear that they didn't get to finish the production on all of them. The sound quality is pretty bad and seems to not be totally in sync with the actors (though this could be a problem with how they were converted for youtube I guess).
The events have been pretty predictable but still enjoyable. I can't wait for the full episodes!
Posted by Jayelle (Member # 9745) on :
Can't find them on youtube... can't get them to work from scifi.com.
How do I... change my ISP so it looks like I'm not from Canada??! ...okay, maybe that's a bit obsessive.
Edit: Nevermind. It helps if you spell "galactica" and not "galatica"
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:What an utter admission of the inferiority of Islam, to think it must be protected by force from people making a free choice for themselves!
Hm. Would you say that any religion which puts people to death for belonging to another religion is admitting its inferiority?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
LOL
I thought I was all caught up on season 2, but I just found out I had missed the last few eps.......now I have to find them. Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
quote:They do not see the importance of freedom of choice, especially where choosing one's religion is concerned.
For a bulk of history, and even for me right now, the idea of choosing your religion is absurd.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::intrigued::
Why is it absurd for you right now, Irami?
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Hm. Would you say that any religion which puts people to death for belonging to another religion is admitting its inferiority?
I'm not him, but my answer would be "yes" Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Don't think I've seen this floating around here yet, so here it is.
The idea is profoundly arrogant. It places man's choice above God. I can understand someone choosing to obey or disobey God, even someone who believes that their intuitions of God may be faulty, and therefore has to have faith in their cloudy, often erroneous intuitions.
But to think that God's existence is a function of man's choice seems deeply blasphemous, that is, the idea that, "I am a Christian because I want to be one" is awful. The whole business of choosing ones religion according to ones fancy degrades religion in a deep way.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
When I use the term "chosing a religion", it's a shorthand for "searching for a religion that resonates with me". Does doing that seem arrogant to you?
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
A bit, but as long as it doesn't devolve to picking a religion because it's the one that gives you what you want, like say, power-steering and bucket seats.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
Irami:
Why would God's existence be a function of your choice of religion even if you had a choice?
God's existence or non-existence is dependent only on what is the "true" state of the universe (for lack of a better word).
The way I see it, religion is just a codified set of beliefs about the "true" state. Ideally, you determine logically what is the true state of things for yourself and then pick a religion that matches. More realistically, other people pursuade/force you to their belief in the state of the universe.
But if you have a free choice, good for you, I don't see how arrogance works into this.
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
I think we should be more concerned with what is really true, than with what we want. That is what religion should be: what is really true. If that is what it is, then it is the most important thing in the universe. We dare not put road blocks in its way. We must allow people the freedom to choose the truth, whether we know what the truth is or not. We must not be arrogant about it, in case we are wrong.
I have said before and maintain, that the fulfilled prophecies of the Bible are the most convincing, objective proof we could possibly seek for finding out which religion is the truth. Only the true God who knows and controls the future, could give us a religion based on fulfilled prophecies.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Hear hear Mucus.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Irami Osei-Frimpong: Why not choose your religion based on what it gives you? Regardless of which one you choose, thousands, if not millions of people will agree that you've chosen the right one.
If there is only One True Religion, chances are good that no matter which one you belong to, you're wrong. Since it's a crap shoot, might as well belong to one which fits your morality, style of life, and reasoning.
OT: Man, I am so excited about Season 3. I only really watch LOST and BSG, so I'm getting pretty edgy after so long with nothing to watch.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Sorry to continue the on-topic-ness here...
... but how does everyone like the EW cover this week? And the massive 6-page article on BSG? Glad to see it getting so much positive press. Posted by B34N (Member # 9597) on :
Winning the Peabody probably has a lot to do with it. But I'm glad its getting so much positive media attentilon, means that it has a hope of staying on the air for a while and maybe it could help the whoel SciFi genre in general.
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