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[ October 06, 2006, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: BlackBlade ]
Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
Sigh....and I was so happy...
Josh Whedon
quote:Here's a thing: when "Firefly" was cancelled, my heart got broke. Sounds a bit much, but it changed me. Not even "Serenity" could patch that wound. I'm wearier, warier -- after all those years as a movie writer, you'd think I'd be prepared for another lesson on my unimportance in the scheme of things, but I wasn't. There are two very separate worlds: the marketplace, and the bustling bazaar that is my brain. The brain place is crowded with goods, ideas, sequels, spinoffs, animated versions, miniseries, radio dramas -- this is just the used goods. All the new wares are in there as well and it's deafening. Once I create a verse I never let go of it. And figuring out how much of my energy should be devoted to reawakening the projects you all love with the actors and characters I all love, and how much should be forging ahead and creating entirely new works (which you are contractually obligated to love) is exhausting. More than you know. You know the horse caught bwtween two pools of water? Add seven pools, and make the horse wicked A.D.D. The other world, the marketplace, I don't even begin to understand or predict. All these rumor of projects or the death of projects... When the two worlds align and something actually happens, whatever it is, you guys know I'll be on this site as soon as I'm allowed to be. And I'll be very very clear. There is no news. Not never, just now. I'm off to lunch with Lonelygirl.
Actually, there was a clarification offered to this later (I can dig up the link if someone wants it). He hasn't said no more Firefly forever, just not now. He's got quite a bit on his plate at the moment, so that makes sense.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Still, looks pretty bleak.
Even if Whedon can find some free time when he finishes everything on his plate, who's to say he'll be able to get all the actors back to do a show or movie again? They've all got good careers ahead of them, and if you check IMDB, they've all got something going (with the exception of Ron Glass, but that doesn't really matter so much).
Getting such a large cast together, with a director/writer who is booked for quite some time now, in some muddled unnamed future is bleak, but I'll still hold out some hope, somehow that we'll get more someday.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
All the Firefly fans seem really, really eager to get another show or movie going. Are there simply not enough fans to produce the money the studios want to see? There always seems to be huge excitement on the part of the fans, so I wonder what is holding the studios back. Did Serenity not do well in theaters?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Not only did it not recoup the cost of production ($40 million) in theatres, it didn't even get there with DVD sales.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
According to BoxOfficeMojo.com, Serenity made $38 million world wide. Its production budget (not counting promotional costs) was $39 million.
Not the sort of numbers that interest studios.
The fan base is loyal, but apparently not large enough.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
It's times like these when it would be nice to go back to a system of artists and their wealthy benefactors. If Joss could get Bill Gates interested in another Firefly series...
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by twinky: Not only did it not recoup the cost of production ($40 million) in theatres, it didn't even get there with DVD sales.
I read an article only a few weeks ago that said Serenity after this years Serenity day made it into red territory, so it did recoop all its costs. But breaking even still is not attractive to studios.
Not sure why a few reporters keep saying it didnt make back the cost.
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
Is it the fate of the Browncoats to always fight for lost causes?
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Yes.
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
You know, I don't want another Firefly movie. I want Joss to do another tv series. Bring Firefly back, or an original series. I know I'll love whatever Joss does next. So I figure with a movie I get two hours of love, while with a tv show I get several years.
He says when Firefly got cancelled it broke his heart. I'm afraid that means he isn't planning on going back to tv ever.
Posted by solo (Member # 3148) on :
I don't have faith that Firefly would be as good without Wash. He brought something to the show that I don't think could be replaced without it seeming forced.
I think Serenity works as a conclusion to Firefly. I think it is crappy that they spent $40 million to make the movie when it only cost about $1 millon per episode. I wish they had just made more episodes instead. The story would have been more satisfying, in my opinion.
If Firefly comes back in any form, I will most likely watch it. It will probably be good. It just won't be the same.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Unless they do it as either a prequel, or using Wash and Book as flashbacks.
Posted by Eldrad (Member # 8578) on :
I'm not sure why you all want Firefly back anyway after we've had Serenity. Not only are the people who could feasibly bring it back not going to risk losing any more money on it, Serenity basically ended the series for us. The crew at the end of Serenity is not the same crew at the end of Firefly's run; the changes you see in Mal and the crew make it pretty clear, to me at least, that Serenity is it. There is no more.
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