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Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
I've wanted to read these books for a while now, and I have a friend who's really into them and just gave me two books as a present. He gave me The Gunslinger and The Talisman. I asked him which I should read first and he said The Talisman because it connects to the The Dark Tower series at the earliest point in all his books even if it isn't an official part of the series. Something about this strikes me as wrong, in that for some reason I feel I should be starting with the first book in the actual series.

I know a lot of people here have read them, any suggestions on where I should begin?

It almost feels to me like reading one of the prelude to foundation books before reading the foundation series. I think it really would've lessened the experience of reading the foundation series had i read those other books first.

[ April 09, 2008, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Strider ]
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Doesn't make a difference. In fact The Talisman hardly connects at all, its sequel Black House is much closer to the Dark Tower series. Start with The Gunslinger, I did, no regrets. The only book I would say one has to read is Salem's Lot anytime while reading the first 4. Every other connected book to me is just for fun.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Of course I haven't read book 6 or 7 yet.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Little Sisters of Eluria, a short story, is about a main character in the Dark Tower series, and takes place before The Gunslinger. But it to can be read at any time, it gives nothing away, and nothing else gives anything away about the short story.
 
Posted by Luet13 (Member # 9274) on :
 
Start with The Gunslinger. The whole series has many references and connections to many of King's other works, but it's not really necessary to read all that other stuff. It makes the references make some sense, but I don't think it's imperative to go into all that. If you want to, it is fun though. It's kind of like rereading LOTR after reading the Silmarillion for the first time. There's a lot of, "Oh yeah! That's what this is about!"

I just reread The Dark Tower series these last two weeks. It's so great! Enjoy it. At least you don't have to wait years for the last books to come out like I did, since he's finished writing them now. (That was maddening, believe me.)
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Yes, go with the Gunslinger. The 'connected' books don't make sense as connections until you've read the main thread, though for the most part they are still excellent books in their own right. But if you're just going for the Gunslinger, then go straight to the source.

"The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."
 
Posted by Mig (Member # 9284) on :
 
It doesn't make a difference which you read first. I read the Dark Tower series and never read the Talisman and only a few other King books. Almost all of Kings books have a connection to the Dark Tower series, including Salems Lot, The Stand, and Hearts in Atlantis. The Dark Tower series can be read and enjoyed without reading any of his other books, but reading some of the other books adds to the appreciation of the series. There are some sites on-line that help to draw the connections for you as well. I found this one very usefull: http://www.thedarktower.net/connections/roadmap

I refered to it regularly while I read the books. It outlines the connections between King's other books and the Dark Tower series.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I think The Talisman is one of the best things King has ever written. But it's not really part of the Dark Tower series. It should be read alone and savored. And if you ever have a chance to read the "sequel", find something else to do. Like trimming your toenails or having root canal.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
cool. thanks everyone.

That link is pretty cool Mig. I think my reading list is now pushing triple digits.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
I know a lot of people here have read them, any suggestions on where I should begin?
A much more important question is where you should stop.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
To be perfectly honest I have never really dug King's writing style. The only novel I absolutely loved of his was The Eyes of the Dragon.

I couldn't make it past the first few hundred pages of The Stand.

But I'm giving this series a shot because I've heard so much about it. Mostly here.
 
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
 
Tom: End of Wolves of the Calla, I think. SoS and DT are just so weird.

Strider: If you don't like Gunslinger, do try the second in the series, The Drawing of the Three. It's the best of the lot.

Ni!
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
Choo-choo.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
End of Wolves of the Calla, I think.
I concur.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I was thinking in Wolves of the Calla dialect for weeks after finishing that book.
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
Choo-choo indeed. [Smile]

I had a really tough time getting through Gunslinger. Kept aborting mid-book, but each time I'd get a little bit further after each subsequent book in the series. It wasn't till I finished Wizard & Glass (#4) that it finally all *clicked* for me. I guess I needed the backstory that gets revealed in W&G to finally get to like Roland enough to be able to finish Gunslinger.

And I actually THREW #7 in disgust. A couple times, in fact. I won't say why here, I think I mentioned it the last time we discussed the series, which if I remember right was about the time that the last book was released.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Is the series complete after #7? I'm just not a fan of starting a series unless I know I can get some closure.

Also, I've never really read King because I don't enjoy horror. I take it that even if The Dark Tower has some horror elements that it's more than that?

I should probably read Shawshank Redemption -- loved the movie.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
You'd have to actually read "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption". It's in the same collection as "The Body", which was made into the movie "Stand By Me".
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uprooted:
Is the series complete after #7?

Yes and no. I can't explain that, though.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Yes, it's complete. But you will either love the ending, or loathe it with a passion surpassing time.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Oh dear, your answers are not reassuring . . .

Yeah, sorry Lisa -- I knew it was a short story or novella, didn't remember the title. Have also thought I should read "The Body" because I liked Stand By Me as well.
 
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
 
Has anyone here watched Nightmares and Dreamscapes? It was an 8 episode collection of Stephen King's short stories. Some were horror, some were science fiction, and others I can't classify other than just good old Stephen King-ish.

There was one in particular (I won't give details as so not to ruin it for anyone who hasn't watched it) that reminded me particularly of the Dark Tower Series.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Uprooted: stop reading after #5. I assure you that the hypothetical books that your imagination will have already partly written by that point will be immeasurably more satisfying than the two that King actually wrote. I know telling a sci-fi reader to stop reading a series before it's over is practically heresy, but in this case it's far, far more fulfilling. Consider life as a Star Wars fan -- and how much more enjoyable it was -- before the prequels.
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Tom wins the thread.
 
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
 
I disagree wholeheartidly with Tom.

I found the last book to be the most satisfying. If you read the series to that point, you've already acepted every axiom Steven King demands his readers accept. Sure it was weird. Sure it didn't make a lot sense with scientific (or science fiction) analysis, and it wasn't quite fantasy, but I thought it was still amazing.

I started the series the day after I graduated from highschool. Read the first book in a day, the second book in two days, and then spent the next six months reading the rest of the series (my reading slowed down when I got to college). I finished the last one in January, and was utterly devistated that there were no more books. As the events came to a close, I nearly was in tears.

The only other books that I've been deeply saddened to finish are two Vernor Vinge novels (A Deepness in the Sky and A Fire Upon the Deep).

So Strider and Uprooted, start the series and read it as far as you can before you realize that it's not meeting your expectations. For me, that moment never happened, for Tom, it happened around the fifth book. You need to make your own calls on this one.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
It actually happened for me about halfway through Song of Susannah, but I'd never recommend that somebody stop halfway through a book. [Smile]
 
Posted by Luet13 (Member # 9274) on :
 
I can understand someone not liking the ending of the Dark Tower. I like it, but hey, to each his/her own. My only problem with any Stephen King book is that it is too readable. I can't put a book of his down unless absolutely required to. Consequently, when first reading the Dark Tower series I was able to overcome my nausea when reading on the bus. For this, I am eternally grateful to SK, as I ride the bus and train for a long long time every day, and it is now my favorite place to read.

Back on track: I love 'Song of Susannah.' Tom, I'm wondering what made you dislike it. As I said, I understand not being to thrilled with the ending of the series, but 'Song of Susannah' was awesome, imo.

*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*SPOILERS*

I love the multiple nature of Susannah/Detta/Odetta, and how she deals with the newcomer Mia. I love the weird backstory of how Mia came to be. The shootout with Roland and Eddie and how they meet John Cullom and form the Tet Co. is also great.

*END SPOILERS*

So anyway Tom, why didn't you like 'Song of Susannah'?
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
I liked all 7 too, but I enjoy a little bit of weird.

Keep in mind, also, that Tom is one of about three people on this forum who liked MS&T. He's clearly not to be trusted.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
The VERY ending of The Dark Tower was fine; I thought that was a very nice way of resolving something that, by its very nature, had been established as irresolvable. But I found the various "reveals" in SoS and DT underwhelming and rushed, and certain villains -- like Mordred and the Crimson King himself -- overhyped and ludicrous. And certain treatments of certain characters bordered on the outright sadistic. All of this may have been a part of King's point -- in fact, I suspect it was -- but symbolic depth does not always a good novel make. [Smile]
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Frisco:
I liked all 7 too, but I enjoy a little bit of weird.

Keep in mind, also, that Tom is one of about three people on this forum who liked MS&T. He's clearly not to be trusted.

I liked that to, although it was far from a favorite. [Smile]
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Oh all right, I'll ask -- what's MS&T? It'll probably be really obvious when you tell me. Or not. [Wink]
 
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
 
Thanks Uprooted for asking the question first. I googled MS&T and only found Materials Sciences and Technologies, which didn't make any sense to me.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
you know, if you guys want to turn this thread into a spoiler thread that's fine with me. I got what I need out of it. I can change the topic line to include SPOILERS and you can go at it. And I'll do my best to not open it up again. [Smile]
 
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
 
If you like the "Dark Tower" you MUST read "Hearts in Atlantis". It ties in directly to Dark Tower, and the movie does not do it justice.

*SPOILERS*
I love how the Crimson King (aka Devil), who is trying to destroy the Tower and thus the Universe, is shown as the Lidless Eye. Sauron lives!
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
Insomnia is a big tie-in as well.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Consider life as a Star Wars fan -- and how much more enjoyable it was -- before the prequels.
See, I agree with you about the Dark Tower, but this plunges your credibility about such things into the negative.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
You'd have to actually read "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption". It's in the same collection as "The Body", which was made into the movie "Stand By Me".

Apt Pupil became a movie to. Not nearly as good of a movie I will admit though.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:

See, I agree with you about the Dark Tower, but this plunges your credibility about such things into the negative.

So you're saying you prefer a continuity where the Force is genetic, Yoda only taught the youngest children, Leia never actually knew her mother, and Anakin Skywalker fell to evil in, like, five minutes?
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
And Greedo shot first, let's not forget.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Yoda only taught the youngest children,

"For eight hundred years, I have taught kindergarten. My own council I will keep on who is ready!"
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Worst. Yoda. Ever.

[Razz]
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The White Whale:
Thanks Uprooted for asking the question first. I googled MS&T and only found Materials Sciences and Technologies, which didn't make any sense to me.

I'm going to guess that it's Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow & Thorn.

Am I close?
 
Posted by Mig (Member # 9284) on :
 
In February Marvel is releasing the seven issue DARK TOWER: THE GUNSLINGER BORN. It is supposed to be about Roland's early life. It is written by Peter David, who's a darn good comics writer, and "overseen" by King, whatever that means.
See preview: http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb07/dummy.html
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
quote:
And Greedo shot first, let's not forget.
If you had seen the newest dvd release, you'd know that they in fact both almost shot at the same time. Way to go George!
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
So you're saying you prefer a continuity where the Force is genetic,
"The force is strong in my family. My Father had it. I have it. And my sister has it."

quote:
Yoda only taught the youngest children, Leia never actually knew her mother,
Meh.

quote:
and Anakin Skywalker fell to evil in, like, five minutes?
Not what happened. Palpatine worked on him for years.

Beyond that, your question distorts the actual issue. Even if I prefer the versions of those events that you prefer, that doesn't mean that the net harm to the mythos was greater than the benefit of everything else we got. I could agree with you that each of those was a mistake and still not wish the prequels hadn't been made.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
quote:

It is written by Peter David, who's a darn good comics writer

I think he's actually a pretty good writer, period. [Smile]
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
I am firmly in Tom's camp -- both with ending half-way through Song of Susannah and Memory, Sorrow & Thorn.

I was highly disappointed by Stephen King basically chickening out (imo) and kowtowing to literary literature. I completely understand the temptation to do so. But still...

Actually, I differ with Tom on the ending ending. I think recursion is a cop out. But then again, I have apocalyptic tendencies.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
The names he gave the aliens in Imzadi totally threw me out of the story. I'm sure he thought it was cute, but I definitely would have enjoyed it more had he reined it in.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
Was Imzadi II any good? I haven't read a media tie in book in a decade, but I liked the first one so much I've been tempted to give it a try.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
I don't think I read Imzadi II.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
Question, what exactly is the Gunslinger series about? It looks like a bunch of Westerns, although in a weird world. However, the story has never been explained. As someone who dislikes Westerns more than anything, I am very uncomfortable with the idea of reading them.

[ November 14, 2006, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: Occasional ]
 
Posted by Cashew (Member # 6023) on :
 
Its no western, though the easiest way of seeing Roland is as a Clint Eastwood in the Good the Bad and the Ugly movie lookalike, and there are some few elements that parallel westerns. But don't let that put you off. It's no western. Read it without preconceived notions, and stick with The Gunslinger to the end.
 
Posted by Cashew (Member # 6023) on :
 
And whoever said they hadn't read any King because they don't like horror: that was me until a couple of years ago. He's written plenty of stuff that's not horror, most of which I've read and enjoyed. Now I'm reading IT (yikes!) and loving it.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
So after a little stalling I started up the series and I'm almost through The Waste Lands right now. Right now the group is crossing the George Washington looking bridge. Oy just almost fell off and they've suddenly been confronted by a man with a grenade.

Kwsni, I thought this was pretty funny:

quote:
Strider: If you don't like Gunslinger, do try the second in the series, The Drawing of the Three. It's the best of the lot.
Out of the first three The Drawing of the Three was my least favorite I think. A bit too much character development for me, and not enough ummm...anything else. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoyed it(finished it in 2 days), but nothing really happens and there wasn't enough of the mystery surrounding Roland's world that I was hoping for.

I'm really digging the series. I'm fascinated by the world(s) he's created in these books. It's right up my alley. I have some theories about what's going on, which may or may not be right, but what I don't have any idea of is where the story will go. Well, other than to the Dark Tower that is.

Okay...back to reading.
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
Overall, one of the best groups of books I've read. I'm not usually a huge fan of King's. He has some good books, some fair books, and my absolute most hated book of all time (Gerald's Game - Never read that abomination).

The Gunslinger series though, is fantastic. Very complex, rich characters and worlds, emotionally involving, and lots of fun.

It's far from perfect. Some books are better than others, some spots are slow, some things aren't as well though out as they should be. Overall though, it's quite a wonderful read. I enjoyed the experience very much.
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Strider:
Kwsni, I thought this was pretty funny:

quote:
Strider: If you don't like Gunslinger, do try the second in the series, The Drawing of the Three. It's the best of the lot.
Out of the first three The Drawing of the Three was my least favorite I think. A bit too much character development for me, and not enough ummm...anything else. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoyed it(finished it in 2 days), but nothing really happens and there wasn't enough of the mystery surrounding Roland's world that I was hoping for.

Then you're going to love "Wizard and Glass", which I think is easily the best in the series.

*holds back from ruining it for him*
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
It's right up my alley. I have some theories about what's going on, which may or may not be right, but what I don't have any idea of is where the story will go.
This is why The Waste Lands is my favorite book, closely followed by Wizard and Glass. If you enjoy the world of this story, STOP READING after Wolves of the Calla.

Seriously.
Read Wolves of the Calla, and stop. Don't read any further. Because you will regret it.
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
quote:
It's right up my alley. I have some theories about what's going on, which may or may not be right, but what I don't have any idea of is where the story will go.
This is why The Waste Lands is my favorite book, closely followed by Wizard and Glass. If you enjoy the world of this story, STOP READING after Wolves of the Calla.

Seriously.
Read Wolves of the Calla, and stop. Don't read any further. Because you will regret it.

Just because you don't like the ending doesn't mean he won't. [Razz] No need to fill him with dread about reading all of it.
 
Posted by Luet13 (Member # 9274) on :
 
Yeah Tom, Javert's right. I liked the ending. I know parts of it got a little ridiculous, but I still liked it and can't really imagine how else it could have ended. And there's no reason to frighten Strider away from making his own impressions of the last two books.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I don't mind the ending. The ending is fine. The last two books, however, suck.

You could insert the ending right after Wolves of the Calla and walk away, satisfied.

In fact, I'll make anyone currently reading this series an offer: let me know when you finish Wolves of the Calla, and I'll send you the last three pages of The Dark Tower. You'll feel better about the universe.
 
Posted by Fitz (Member # 4803) on :
 
I'm just curious Tom, but if you had received a similar warning upon finishing Wolves of the Calla, would you have taken it? I probably wouldn't, even if it came from someone whose judgment I trusted.

I certainly agree with the sentiment. Song of Susannah was awful, and The Dark Tower (a depressing book in more ways than one) was painful to slog through, but I'm nevertheless glad to have read them. At least from a completionist's perspective.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
The day after tomorrow, the first issue of the new Dark Tower comic is coming out.

Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born.

It's going to start off retelling Wizard and Glass, but it's going to do Roland's youth in detail.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
I'm just curious Tom, but if you had received a similar warning upon finishing Wolves of the Calla, would you have taken it?
Probably not. I would have found it impossible to believe -- even if someone really, really insisted -- that the last two books do absolutely NOTHING with the promise and fascinating premise of the previous ones. But I went to the last two Matrix movies, too, and saw the Star Wars prequels.

That doesn't mean that I don't regret it. My own geeky desire for "completion" has actually spoiled in some ways my enjoyment of things that were better uncompleted.

So if there's anyone out there wondering: DON'T READ THE LAST TWO DARK TOWER BOOKS. I really, really mean it. Just stop. You'll never thank me for it, because you won't know why you WOULD have thanked me for it, but the universe will.
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
I think Wolves of the Calla was my favorite of the series, followed by Wizard and Glass, followed by the final book, The Dark Tower. That's right, the last book was my 3rd favorite.

I can kind of guess why Tom doesn't like the last two. Song of Susanna really didn't do much for me at all, and some of the threads were tied up a little abruptly in The Dark Tower. How do you finish an epic story in a satisfying way though?

I think King did a remarkably good job at the ending considering how much is going on, and the very nature of the story. I think the thing that bothered me most about the ending was that the series was over. I had grown attached to the characters and the world, and I didn't want it to end.

Song of Susanna was a skimmer. But I think the last book is well worth the read. If you want to see how things turn out, and be filled with hope, sadness, a little bit of confusion, and a little bit of excitement, go ahead and read it. I've put down plenty of books part way through because I just couldn't read any more, but this series wasn't anywhere in the list.
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
Drawing of the Three was far and away my favorite.
 
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
 
Strider, I'm not surprised you didn't like Drawing of the Three as much as I do, not many people do. I like the tension in that book, but I also like knowing that everybody comes out ok. I like watching Eddie learn to be a man. He's the Point-of-View character in that book more than any other, I think that's part of it, too. I love Eddie Dean.

Wizard and Glass is probably my second favorite, up to the point where I can feel The Bad coming, and I have to skip past it every time. I made the mistake of listening to it on Audio book at work. Not a good idea.

Ni!
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
quote:

In fact, I'll make anyone currently reading this series an offer: let me know when you finish Wolves of the Calla, and I'll send you the last three pages of The Dark Tower. You'll feel better about the universe.

Can we take up a collection? If it reaches high enough I may consider not reading the last two books. [Smile] Otherwise, I just don't think I can bring myself to not read them, even with as much as I trust your opinion Tom. But you should be pleased that I seriously mulled it over in my mind at least.

[ February 07, 2007, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Strider ]
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
Well I just finished Wolves of Calla(after reading Salem's Lot as a precursor). I powered through this last one and it may be my second favorite of the series thus far. The only part that slowed it down for me was Callahan's story of what happened to him between Salem's Lot and Wolves. I found the story interesting, but I think it just dragged on a bit too long. Other than that I thought this last book was fascinating.

The only thing that worries me(besides Tom's dire warnings to cease and desist reading immediately) is that King has now created so many unbelievable connections between all these characters and events, that I worry how he can possibly explain them all in a satisfying way. Leaving it at "Ka" just won't do it for me.
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
I liked parts of Song. As I recall, it ended on quite a cliffhanger for King, so you're kind of committed to continuing at that point. Dark Tower was a painful nasty slide. As I posted previously, I actually threw that book across the room at a couple different points in complete disgust at what Steve-O was doing. And I'm sorry, Tom, but that last three pages or so? Complete and utter cop-out, IMHO.

I'll end up re-reading everything, even the nasty painful slide, because that's just what I do.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
King has admitted in print that he doesn't really plot things out in advance and doesn't always know where he's going with his stories.

So it should be completely unsuprising that what seem like promising ideas and foreshadowings in the middle of the series don't go anywhere or just land with a wet thud.

I was underwhelmed with how King tied up the series but I don't regret reading all the books. King's failure to awe me doesn't negate the value I derived from the earlier books, and I found the last two books readable if not wholly enjoyable. I was initially mad about the ending (the last three pages) but I came to respect and accept that part after the shock wore off.

The Crimson King is just about the stupidest villain I've ever seen in any book, ever. Eeeeeeee!

Ever.
 
Posted by Goody Scrivener (Member # 6742) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scifibum:
The Crimson King is just about the stupidest villain I've ever seen in any book, ever. Eeeeeeee!

Ever.

Seriously. All the build-up over how many novels and he's vanquished like THAT?
 
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Strider:
Well I just finished Wolves of Calla(after reading Salem's Lot as a precursor). I powered through this last one and it may be my second favorite of the series thus far. The only part that slowed it down for me was Callahan's story of what happened to him between Salem's Lot and Wolves. I found the story interesting, but I think it just dragged on a bit too long. Other than that I thought this last book was fascinating.

The only thing that worries me(besides Tom's dire warnings to cease and desist reading immediately) is that King has now created so many unbelievable connections between all these characters and events, that I worry how he can possibly explain them all in a satisfying way. Leaving it at "Ka" just won't do it for me.

Are you constantly fighting down the urge to speak or write in the dialect he uses in that book? It took me weeks to get over that.
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
I had that experience, Lisa. I often do after reading or viewing something that has a particularly powerful and infectious style.

But Wolves of Calla was one of the most virulent.

Right now, I'm finding it difficult to not speak with an English accent in my head because the wife and I have been watching A Bit of Fry and Laurie and I just listened to Stephen Fry's third podcast on the bus ride home.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
"The only thing that worries me(besides Tom's dire warnings to cease and desist reading immediately)"

It probably won't happen, but I really do hope he rewrites the last 2 books. I usually recommend only the first 4-5 books, and then throw caveats in about the last two. I never say "don't read them", but they're no "Wizard and Glass".

[ April 10, 2008, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: steven ]
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
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Are you constantly fighting down the urge to speak or write in the dialect he uses in that book? It took me weeks to get over that.
hah, no. But I normally don't take to language like that. I have a hard time hearing dialog in my head when reading. I DO think it would be awesome to work words like "ka" or "palaver" into day to day conversation though.
 


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