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Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
 
1. Go skydiving.
2. Purchase a rare (old) book.
3. Take a train ride in a sleeper car.
4. Visit a European castle.
5. Buy a dollhouse and furnish one piece at a time.
6. Buy the house I grew up in (California).
7. Have twins.
8. Be a contestant on "The Price is Right" and play Plinko
9. Find a job that I will never want to leave again.
10. Learn how to play my guitar and sing along too
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
My list:

1. Visit the Hagia Sophia
2. Get married at Mont St. Michel
3. Get my book published.
4. Go skydiving and bungee jumping.
5. Be a contestent on a game show (Plinko is preferred).
6. Be a Red Wings season ticket holder.
7. Visit all 50 state capitals.
8. Learn how to play my guitar and sing with it
9. Visit the old family home in Avignon
10. Get LASIK eye surgery, preferably before I do all these things.
 
Posted by signal (Member # 6828) on :
 
1) Learn to weld. Then seam weld my car.
2) Get my Masters Degree.
3) Travel (New Zealand, Vietnam, Japan, UK, Italy).
4) Finish the project car and race it on a track.
5) Find someone that will pay me to play all day (your #9)
6-10) I'll have to get back to you on these. I only had 5, or at least 5 I could remember.
 
Posted by NicholasStewart (Member # 9781) on :
 
1) Get sufficient sleep for a whole year, though just a week would be nice
2) Have a enough money that I don't have to work and can devote my time/energy/thoughts to other things
3) Travel all over the world
4) Start industries and create jobs and make education available in poor nations
5) Learn Spanish and Portuguese
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
1) successfully raise my kids
2) write and record a CD with my girlfriend (who wrote this)
3) open a kung fu studio
4) go back to yellowstone
5) visit Scotland and Ireland
6) visit Mediterranian Europe
7) Visit Guandong Province, China
8) get a custom made Ox Tail Sword from Zheng Wu
9) *not fit for a family forum*
10) get a Pitts Special
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
1) have grandchildren
2) get a Ph.D.
3) read and study all of the Bible, BoM, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price
4) publish a scholarly paper about Latin
5) publish a scholarly paper in Latin
6) be fluent in Greek
7) march in a parade
8) hold public office
9) spend a summer roughing away from civilization
10) paint a great picture I am proud of
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Oh! We had a thread like this a long time ago - I should go back and see what my ten things were then, and how they compare to how I feel now.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
(Jim-Me, I loved that song. Want more. Both of you hurry up with your number two!)
 
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
 
That's all her, Mack (though she got a friend to sing lead). I didn't have anything to do with that one, though I'm sure you can see why I am anxious to write with her...
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
1. Become a great architect
2. Plant a tree
3. Write a book (preferably more than one)
4. Design a home for myself
5. Bring my Japanese up to speed with my English
6. Learn French and German (for studies in history)
7. Make love in an open meadow
8. Found a small design firm
9. Start an Objectivist group at my university campus
10. Start a healthy, intelligent, active online community

Katharina, I can attest to your #7 being slightly over-rated. [Wink]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
But I've never done it! I've done so many fun things, but not that one.

I have to admit I am mentally singing "Twist and Shout" in my fantasy.
 
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
 
1> Skydive (CHECK!)
2> Go to Hawaii
3> Go to Australia
4> Go to Europe (CHECK!)
5> Scuba dive
6> Vegas (Checkcheckcheckcheckcheck!)
7> See a broadway play on broadway (Check!)
8> Find someone who loves me back (Check!)
9> Write a story that people enjoy
10> Save enough money that when I retire I will be young enough to enjoy not working.

That's 10.. but I got more...
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
That would certainly make for a better parade than The Flower of Scotland.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Not in any particular order..

1. Ride in a hot air balloon
2. Learn to be a pilot
3. Visit New York City
4. Run a marathon
5. Totally remodel my house
6. Plant an orchard
7. Visit Europe
8. See my kids get happily married
9. Help someone else get something they can’t afford on their own
10. Make love (yeah, at least one more time before I die)

(I had something that was a spiritual goal, but decided to leave it out/change it for this forum, because I didn't want to prompt a spiritual debate)

FG
 
Posted by Will B (Member # 7931) on :
 
Jim-Me, that's a cool song.
 
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
 
FG: Visit NYC now!
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Why? Phanto? (I hear it kinda smells lately..) [Smile]
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
(Love the song.)

In no particular order:

1. Publish a novel (preferably more than one [Smile] )
2. Learn to ride horses.
3. Become fluent in Mandarin, both written and spoken.
4. Visit China.
5. Have a self-sustaining organic small farm and dairy.
6. Design and build my dream house, and by build I mean actually doing much of the work myself.
7. Spend a year or two volunteering at Holden Village.
8. Learn all there is to know about leatherworking.
9. Open a bakery in a small town.
10. Learn carpentry.

--Mel
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
OK, I'm taking this in another direction. I went through everybody's lists. Here are the things other people want to do which I have already done:

10. Learn how to play my guitar and sing along too
2) Get my Masters Degree.
4) go back to yellowstone
7) march in a parade
5) Learn Portuguese
7. **** **** ** ** **** ******
3. Visit New York City
9. Help someone else get something they can’t afford on their own
2. Plant a tree
4> Go to Europe
3) Travel (Japan)
6> Vegas
8> Find someone who loves me back


While a lot of the items in the lists are things that I'd like to do, most of them aren't things I'd sacrifice much to do.

Here are the things that I would sacrifice to do:

1) Learn to weld.
1) have grandchildren
3) read and study all of the Bible, BoM, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price
2) Have a enough money that I don't have to work and can devote my time/energy/thoughts to other things
10> Save enough money that when I retire I will be young enough to enjoy not working. (these last two are essentially the same thing)
8. See my kids get happily married
5) Learn Spanish
1) successfully raise my kids
2) record a CD with my wife
10. Learn carpentry.
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:

7. **** **** ** ** **** ******

Hey, me too!
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
(had to do some reading to figure out your #7, but got it!) [Wink] (and I've already done that, so didn't need it on my list)

Why do you want to learn Spanish? I know you're fluent in Portugese, aren't they very similar?

I had a trip to Alaska on my last list, but we are DOING that this year! [Smile]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
#7? I don't know what y'all are talking about. [Blushing]

Anyway..., yes, Spanish and Portugese are very similar. I can read Spanish just fine, and I can understand it when spoken by a gringo. I cannot, however, follow a conversation between two native speakers.

Why do I want to do that? I want to be able to communicate with that rapidly growing segment of our population.
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
In Porter's wake...

quote:
4. Go skydiving and bungee jumping.
7) march in a parade
2. Plant a tree
7> See a broadway play on broadway
3. Visit New York City
4. Run a marathon
2. Learn to ride horses.


 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
So, Rakeesh, are those things you've done or things you want to do?
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
1) Finish my book "Immorte De Arthur"
2) Finish my book "Darjon" and the series that follow it.
3) Finish my book "Fanticide"
4) Finish my book "Modern Troy"
5) Finish my book "The Magic Book"
6) Finish my book of short stories.
7) Finish my book "The House Between"
8) Finish my book series "The Empiracle Ambassador"
9) Publish all of the above so I can become famous and respected and rich.
10) Stop wasting my time on Hatrack and do some actual writing.
 
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ElJay:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:

7. **** **** ** ** **** ******

Hey, me too!
[Wave]

[Blushing]
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
1 Have a drink on Bourbon Street- DONE!
2 Successfully raise my kids
3 Become fluent in Latin
4 Publish a Star Trek story
5 Be really hawt once again

be back to you on the rest
 
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
Oh! We had a thread like this a long time ago - I should go back and see what my ten things were then, and how they compare to how I feel now.

FG -- yeah, I remember that, I went looking for it and couldn't find it, so it really WAS a long time ago...

Have to go dig out my list, but don't think I've done anything on it lately.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
1. Write novels, several of them
2. Find my life's partner
3. CENSORED
4. Raise kids, quite a few of them
5. Go to Japan.
6. See Dir en grey in Japan.
7. Travel to other parts of the world.
8. Get fluent in several languages.
9. Learn to play guitar and other instruments.
10. Other stuff.
 
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
1. Find that special someone.
2. Earn my bachelor's degree.
3. Peyote.
4. Write and publish several books.
5. Earn a master's in library science.
6. CENSORED. (It involves a symbolic revenge fantasy that would get me banned or at least warned were I to post it here.)
7. 4-methylaminorex.
8. Officiate at the marriage of my friend *** when he finds that special man.
9. Earn my Doctorate of Philosophy.
10. Live to see true freedom (legal homosexual marriages, legal polygamous marriages, no drug laws, no antitrust laws, no obscenity laws, etc.) in this or any other country.

Something tells me #10 will remain unachieved.
 
Posted by Nell Gwyn (Member # 8291) on :
 
Things I've already done (although I certainly don't mind repeating them):

4. Visit a European castle.
2. Plant a tree (and it's still alive, too!)
4> Go to Europe
6> Vegas
7> See a broadway play on broadway
3. Visit New York City
9. Help someone else get something they can’t afford on their own
2. Learn to ride horses.

My to-do list (leaving out the wild, unrealistic fantasies that are likely unattainable):

1) Travel to every country on the globe (skipping, or at least delaying, a few that might get me killed)
2) Read every book that I own, including all I might acquire in the meantime and those in foreign languages
3) Become fluent in French, Visayan/Cebuano, and at least one other language
4) Own a horse farm (or at least a show-quality horse) and be a competitive rider
5) Serve in the Peace Corps
6) Live in and own a solar-powered house (or some combo of green energies) and own a non-gas-fueled car
7) Learn to rock-climb, scuba-dive, and sail
8) Have a career I enjoy that will have a positive impact and will pay me a lot
9) Earn/save enough money to retire while still young enough to enjoy it
10) Find my life partner, who will think my list sounds like fun and have his own cool list for me to help with as well
10.1) LASIK eye surgery would be fantastic
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Here is my list of things others want to do, of which I have done.

1) LASIK eye surgery (It was worth every dollar and costs about the same as 7 years worth of contact lenses) DO IT!
2)Learn how to play guitar and sing along too.
3)Travel (New Zealand, Vietnam, Japan, UK, Italy). I have not been to New Zealand, but I've been to all those other places. If you are going to travel you gotta just start doing it because its a long project, and worth every second.
4) Visit Guandong Province, China. Seeing as how I grew up in Hong Kong I've beaten this one to death, but its a worthwhile goal [Big Grin]
5)spend a summer roughing away from civilization. Did it the summer before my mission, it was insane but it was so much fun, wouldn't trade it for anything.
6)Plant a tree. There is something magical about planting a new tree in the earth and coming back to it to see it growing up.
7) Go to Hawaii/Go to Australia. Both places are worth it to visit. Especially Australia, its a wonderful place.
8) Scuba dive. DO THIS, AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! I am not kidding, the best diving spots in the world are being slowly destroyed and already so much of what makes scuba diving magical is disappearing. It could probably be helped but I just don't think it will. Get out to South East Asia and start scuba diving while you can still experience the wonder of it all. I really cannot emphasize this enough.
9) Visit New York City. What a city! I had a blast visiting!
10) Visit China. Everybody should visit it, the place is changing so fast, its going to become hard to find the China I grew up loving if you don't hurry!
11) Become fluent in Mandarin, both written and spoken. I am SO close to completing this one, written Chinese just refuses to get in my head [Frown]
12)Find my life's partner. Found mine, but I won't lie thought its so wonderful to be married you are going to have to sojourn through hell sometimes to make your marriage the happy one you want it to be.

And now my list of things I wish to do before I die.

1) Visit every continent. I have just South America and Antarctica left, but I'd settle for visiting every inhabited continent so South America remains.
2) Publish a book that at least one other person finds worth reading.
3) Help my wife to publish a CD that contains beautiful music worth listening to even if we don't make a dollar off it.
4) Raise my children in such a manner that they are sad to leave, but fully prepared to do so one day.
5) Adopt a beautiful Chinese girl from mainland China.
6) Go Skydiving and Bungee Jumping.
7) Become as knowledgeable as I can about all The Standard Works of the church as listed in other peoples lists.
8) Teach a high school or college level American History and Chinese class. For at least 2 semesters respectively.
9) Obtain financial success quickly and efficiently so that I can young enough to retire and play the rest of my days.
10) Be honest in my dealings with my fellow man, I really feel the world could use alot more honesty.
11) Die having enriched the lives of many people. Life is a struggle, if I can make it more endurable for just a few then I can die happy.
 
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
 
BB: I had RK (lasik, but with knives) in my early 20s. It's amazingly wonderful! My night vision isn't great but I can't imagine going through the past almost-20 years wearing glasses!

I've noticed a lot of people (especially LDS) are adopting little girls from china these days. Is this because of the One Child thing? Is there some meme in the mormon community that it's the thing to do now? I think it's an abosultely wonderful thing to do, myself.

Pix
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
I want to adopt a girl from China one day too.
What happens is that a lot of girls in China get abandoned (or worse, also in India too) and taken to orphanages, so they reall need homes. China has made their rules stricter, so it will be years before I can do it, plus I am not 30 or mature and I don't have money yet.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
I dunno if its the Mormon thing to do, all I know is I was working in Taiwan as a missionary and while reflecting on all the time I've spent in China it occured to me that I wanted to do it. My own grandparents adopted a girl from Taiwan and though she has been a hell raiser she is a wonderful person and is trying to make something of herself.

So many girls are treated like dirt by their families, and while that is not always the case I want to help if I can. I have a Hong Kong ID card and that allows me to declare myself a resident of Hong Kong. That should make adopting one MUCH easier. I can speak Chinese and so I can deal with the adoption agencies directly without a middle man/woman.

I might end up living in China and raising a Chinese girl at the same time, how is that for alittle trippy?
 
Posted by Hank (Member # 8916) on :
 
In no particular order:
--learn to ride a horse
--learn to fire a gun
--learn to play an instrument
--learn to drive a motorcycle
--learn to drive a Mack truck
--have silver hair
--live in alaska
--live in a foreign country for at least 6 months
--visit NYC
--have silver hair
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
A MACK truck? Why a Mack truck? Surely a Kenworth or a Peterbilt would much better.... [Wink]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
I've noticed a lot of people (especially LDS) are adopting little girls from china these days. Is this because of the One Child thing? Is there some meme in the mormon community that it's the thing to do now?
I wouldn't call it an LDS thing, besides the fact that family and children tend to be really important to us.

My landlord, back when we lived in an apartment, had adopted 4 children from Haiti and one from India.
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
11) Become fluent in Mandarin, both written and spoken. I am SO close to completing this one, written Chinese just refuses to get in my head [Frown]

I have the opposite problem. It's not that hard for me to memorize the characters, but I don't have anyone to practice speaking with. I took one semester in college, which gave me the basics of pronunciation, but that's it. Pimsleur can only get you so far [Frown]

--Mel
 
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
 
I've been making a Things To Do Before I Die list since I was in grade school.

My current 10 favorites, in no particular order:

-work on a movie set
-get a pilot's license
-have something named after me
-set up a scholarship fund at my school
-become a "master" cake decorator
-successfully insert contact lenses
-not do something that I usually do for a year
-visit the Toronto Water Treatment Facility
-get my DNA sequenced
-get more than 500,000 Google results when searching my name, hopefully most of them about me and not the magnificent stage animal

[ January 10, 2007, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: aiua ]
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
Hatrackers are so naughty.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
I've noticed a lot of people (especially LDS) are adopting little girls from china these days. Is this because of the One Child thing? Is there some meme in the mormon community that it's the thing to do now?
I wouldn't call it an LDS thing, besides the fact that family and children tend to be really important to us.

My landlord, back when we lived in an apartment, had adopted 4 children from Haiti and one from India.

I wish I could do that now...
Not until I'm 30...
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Blackblade -

How bad were your eyes before you got LASIK done? I've read that it works best for people whose eyes aren't that bad to begin with, and my eyesight is quite poor.
 
Posted by PrometheusBound (Member # 10020) on :
 
Res Gestae (things having been done)
1.Visit a European castle.
2. Visit New York City
3.Go to Europe
4. See a broadway play on broadway
5. Help someone else get something they can’t afford on their own
6. Become fluent in Latin (not quite fluent, but fair reading knowledge.)
7. visit Scotland and Ireland
8. visit Mediterranian Europe
9. Purchase a rare (old) book. (They have all been gifts, but I'll include it to look less pathetic.)

Things needing to be done.

1. learn Italian, Greek (Ancient and Modern) and Turkish
2. Get my doctorate
3. Finally get published: history
4. Get married
5. Join a third-order, maybe?
6. Retreat to monasteries (Buddhist, Grk. Orthodox, Anglican and/or RC)
7. Finally get published: fiction
8. Finally get published: philosophy
9. Write and get published: memoirs
10. Finally get published some place decent: poetry.
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
1. Become a published author
2. Go to a REAL college, where I can become completely involved in college life (I'm very close)
3. Become a good cook
4. Learn to fly a plane
5. travel across the US and Canada
6. Go to Australia
7. Untie my career from a corporation
8. Sing in public
9. Own a bowling alley
10.Own a bookstore
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
Things to do (in no particular order)
1. Go back to the UK
2. Visit Greece (particularly Athens/Parthenon)
3. Visit Italy
4. Visit Mayan/Incan ruins (ideally climb one of the temples)
5. Publish at least one novel that someone finds worthwhile
6. Get Lasik (or similar procedure done)
7. Learn to SCUBA
8. Own my own home
9. Grow a fruit tree
10. Grow a climbing tree in my yard
 
Posted by Dark as night (Member # 9577) on :
 
Things to do in no particular order:

1. Visit Lhasa, Tibet -- the Potala Palace and the Norbulingka
2. Work in Africa with Doctors Without Borders
3. See the Sistine Chapel
4. Skydive
5. Buy a grand piano
6. Backpack through New Zealand
7. Get married
8. See Mt. Everest and K2
9. Build a house
10. Adopt a baby from Southeast Asia
 
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
 
quote:

7. Make love in an open meadow

Ya know, I bet country people don't have on THEIR top 10 lists of things to do, "Make love in a stinky alley" or "make love on an office desk"... [Wink]
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Make sure if you DO do the desk thing you sweep everything off the desk all dramatic like, like they do in the movies.

Otherwise you're in for some interesting surprises.
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by plaid:
quote:

7. Make love in an open meadow

Ya know, I bet country people don't have on THEIR top 10 lists of things to do, "Make love in a stinky alley" or "make love on an office desk"... [Wink]
Yes, but I'm rather fond of that particular fantasy of mine, so I'd rather you didn't tell me about ants and grass ticks etc. It will be an alpine meadow in the summer, dotted liberally with flowers of assorted colours and the occasional leafy tree. There will be a river, and no humans or farm animals for miles around. </daydream>
 
Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
 
no real order, no confirmation that one might not change in a month or two... : )

*live in a foreign country for at least 6 mos
*publish a book of poetry
*help get my brother convinced he's better than he thinks he is
*direct a summer camp; and make it better than it was
*take a leisurely, long vacation to africa
*get my parents something they really want but would never get themselves. a big thing. : )
*have my favorite 4 ender books autographed by orson scott card. (really, not even just because of this site. but more because my dad would hit the roof, in a good way...)
*have a kid or two or... to love with and learn with, and have them grow up in a home with their whole family around, knowing how cared about and special they are
*get a little better at talking about what i'm really feeling without getting shy or embarrassed about it
*help my grandfather buy more land at his place to help protect it from development

this was pretty cool to really sit down and think about. thanks for the idea to actually do it! : )

edit: ps didn't see hank's post before i wrote the 6 mos thing - i'm actually looking at getting a visa and that's why i said 6 mos...

[ January 11, 2007, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: cmc ]
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
1. Live Abroad for Years
2. Play as a resident Artist, or lecture as a guest professor at a top music school
3. Publish and present papers in interdisciplinary research between English literature and modern music.
4. Write a novel, and a collection of short stories
5. Compose a major piece of music.
6. Save another life.
7. Fall in love with someone who returns my affection, and do something about it.
8. Attend live performances of every Shotakovich, Beethoven, Mahler and Bartók string quartet or Symphony. Attend the major works of Ravel and Debussy.
9. Write a poem that is powerful.
10. Teach. And Learn.
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
1. Take architecture classes.
2. See Palmyra, Aleppo, and ancient ruins of temples of every major ancient religion, particularly Mayan, Hindu, Buddhist, and Greek.
3. Get a tattoo, either designed by me, a respected artist, or a close friend, once I have something (an event, an idea, a person, an accomplishment, etc) meaningful enough for me to represent it so permanently.
4. Chop all my hair off.
5. Travel as much as possible, taking as many photos and making as many sketches as possible.
6. Draw more, read more.
7. Learn how to make my grandfather's kibbeh and grapeleaves, and my grandmother's meat sauce.
8. See Brugge.
9. Work closely with a crazy architect.
10. Learn more about the music of the world.
 
Posted by anti_maven (Member # 9789) on :
 
1) See the Toddling Tornado safely and happily settled in life.
2) Make my wife happy.
3) Sail more.
4) Spend more time in the mountains.
5) Finsh a story (finally) and get it published.
6) Have a regular spot at the local jazz club.
7) Get the Agamuño Beer Company up and running.
8) Power my house from renewables.
9) Build a boat.
10)Sleep more.

I notice that some these may be mutually exclusive (and subject to change [Wink] )
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
I've done a lot of the stuff on other people's lists. *feels accomplished*

Mine is partial, in no particular order, and off the top of my head:
1) Be a professional musician for some undetermined portion of my life.
2) Become fluent in another language (Spanish is my first choice).
3) Live for an undetermined amount of time in another country (I think it'd be awesome to teach English in South America or Europe somewhere).
4) Get married and have kids. And one day, watch them do the same.
5) Compete in a triathlon.
6) Hike at least a portion of the Appalachian Trail (could also be fulfilled by backpacking through Europe for a month).
7) Live completely off of the grid, completely without money, and be self-sustaining (by either growing or hunting/trapping my own food (or bartering for it)) -- use renewable resources for utilities.

I think that's all I can think of, for now. My current number 1 goal is retirement, and it directly contradicts most, if not all of these other 7 things.
 
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
 
Ah, my #6 is Lasik.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Blackblade -

How bad were your eyes before you got LASIK done? I've read that it works best for people whose eyes aren't that bad to begin with, and my eyesight is quite poor.

My prescription was not THAT bad when I got it done. I couldn't drive without corrective lenses however.

After the surgery I was somewhere between 20/20 and 15/20 with one day where I even tested 10/20. Using the steroids and antibiotic drops they give you afterwards is CRUCIAL. You don't mess around with your eyes as far as I am concerned. I thought I would never see normally again however because my eyes were so whacked out after surgery, but today I see really well, and its been such a boon in my life.

My father on the other hand had quite a thick prescription and opted for the special treatment where they make one eye able to see far distances and the other able to read without reading glasses. At first he cursed the day he went under the laser, but after a few weeks his brain adjusted and he LOVES it now. The brain truely is an amazing thing.

So I do not know if having a lesser prescription helps, I do know having thick corneas is key to the whole procedure. The more they have to work with the better it will turn out. They test thickness before they do anything to your eyes. I had a 95% success ratio, which is as high as it gets apparently. My doctor told me if he was me he would do it, so I did.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I have thought about it. It would be nice to not have to wear glasses. However, I'm wiggly about anding touching my eyes.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
If you're especially queasy about anything touching your eyes you should not even consider lasik.

Seriously.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Sorry for the double post, but I want to add to my number 7 that I want it to take place on my own private island.
 
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
 
I've needed glasses since 4th grade, but haven't started wearing them until I needed them for driving. They're a bother and because I'm not used to them, I frequently swipe them off my face because I don't expect them to be there.
Not having them would be nice, but I'm completely freaked about the process. I suppose they couldn't/wouldn't give me something to either knock me out or make me not care..
 
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
 
JT, you did see that one is currently up for sale, right? You could be Prince JT!
 
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Euripides: There will be a river, and no humans or farm animals for miles around. </daydream> [/QB]
I should hope not. [No No]
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
Ok, there will be a small hospital and rescue facilities on the other side of a hill, but out of view.
 
Posted by Dark as night (Member # 9577) on :
 
Oh Katharina and aiua, unfortunately you do have to remain awake for the LASIK procedure, because the surgeon will ask you to focus on a small light. The good news is that your eye is numbed with drops so your discomfort should be minimal. I personally have never given anesthesia for LASIK, but I have for cataract repairs, with a similar combination of numbing medicines. Most patients don't feel anything or at least don't feel uncomfortable.

That said, before you completely write off the LASIK I'd suggest asking your ophthalmologist about the type of anesthesia they usually provide for it. They may be able to give you at least a mild relaxant/amnestic so you are as comfortable as possible, while being awake.
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
Val, yeah, I could get used to that.

Having to live on a glorified oil platform would be a little tougher, though.

Not to mention they want at least 10 mill for that pile of rust. There're plenty of perfectly good South American islands in the 250K range (www.privateislandsonline.com).

<---- takes daydreams very seriously.
 
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
 
i made a notebook a few years back of things i wanted to accomplish before i died...there were many more than 10, but here are a few:

1) have children
2) write a novel, get it published
3) be in a professional, paying musical/play
4) visit Europe, Australia, and New Zealand
5) sky Dive/white water raft/bungee jump/handglide
6) learn to play the guitar
7) learn a foreign language
8) live for a while in England or Ireland
9) settle in a quaint New England seaside village/town
10) own as many pets as is humanly (and humanely) possible
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Things touching my eyes doesn't bother me at all. Every now and then I'll even try to take my contacts out when I'm not even wearing them (yeah, get a mental picture of THAT) and it doesn't bother me that much.

I just worry that the surgery will make my vision even worse than it already is, or that I'll still have to wear glasses, rendering the surgery moot. If I can't get vision good enough to not need glasses, there's little point in getting it for me. And my prescription right now is quite strong. I think I'm at 6.25 on my contacts prescription.
 
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
 
Wow, JT. You've thought this out, haven't you?
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
Closer to being in my price range:
Private islands
 
Posted by Dark as night (Member # 9577) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:

I just worry that the surgery will make my vision even worse than it already is, or that I'll still have to wear glasses, rendering the surgery moot. If I can't get vision good enough to not need glasses, there's little point in getting it for me. And my prescription right now is quite strong. I think I'm at 6.25 on my contacts prescription.

That is pretty rare with LASIK. Most people are usually quite satisfied. Getting rid of the glasses/contacts is the whole point! I believe you could be asking for your money back if it didn't work that way. [Smile] I've heard of a couple reports of people seeing halos around lights, etc. But I haven't heard anyone complain of their vision getting worse than it was before. Obviously this is something you should think over and talk about with your ophthalmologist. I'd also suggest talking to people who've had LASIK done themselves if you're thinking about it.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dark as night:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:

I just worry that the surgery will make my vision even worse than it already is, or that I'll still have to wear glasses, rendering the surgery moot. If I can't get vision good enough to not need glasses, there's little point in getting it for me.

That is pretty rare with LASIK.
Interesting. Can you cite studies, please? Because the ones I've read (I'll try to dig up some citations later) indicate that it's not that uncommon. Perhaps you just have a different definition of "pretty rare" -- can you quantify that?
 
Posted by aiua (Member # 7825) on :
 
Thanks, Dark as night. I've wondered but never actually done any research. I'm okay for right now, at least, I'm not suffering enough to want to go through that. :}
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Things I've already done that other people have mentioned:



Things I've done that aren't on the list but nevertheless I'm quite happy that I accomplished them.



Yeah, that's all I can think of at the moment. [Smile]

[ January 12, 2007, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: quidscribis ]
 
Posted by Nell Gwyn (Member # 8291) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Things touching my eyes doesn't bother me at all. Every now and then I'll even try to take my contacts out when I'm not even wearing them (yeah, get a mental picture of THAT) and it doesn't bother me that much.

I just worry that the surgery will make my vision even worse than it already is, or that I'll still have to wear glasses, rendering the surgery moot. If I can't get vision good enough to not need glasses, there's little point in getting it for me. And my prescription right now is quite strong. I think I'm at 6.25 on my contacts prescription.

Lyr, those are my worries as well. You and I are almost in the same boat with this, except I think my vision's currently at about -5.5 or -5.75 (I'm nearsighted). And I've also tried to take my contacts out instead of putting them in, usually in the morning when I'm still half-asleep...yeah, I'd imagine removing your own cornea with your fingers is not doctor-recommended. [Wink]
 
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Valentine014:
Wow, JT. You've thought this out, haven't you?

The list was all of the top of my head, but that site is one I've used in the last year or so to kill time occasionally.

Plus, for me a private island is a great place to start daydreaming because there're so many interesting problems to think about (Could I make a homemade wave generator? Build a Swiss Family Robinson style treehouse? Set up and maintain a solar array/wind generator? Modify an icebox to run off of a handcrank (possibly attached to an exercise bike)? Catch enough fish to keep me fed for several months? etc, etc).
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
1) Marry.
2) Publish.
3) Be directly responsible for the success of a product line, or a company.
4) Start a successful, national charity organization.
5) Finance my parents' (luxurious) retirement.

That's all I've got.
 
Posted by Dark as night (Member # 9577) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Dark as night:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:

I just worry that the surgery will make my vision even worse than it already is, or that I'll still have to wear glasses, rendering the surgery moot. If I can't get vision good enough to not need glasses, there's little point in getting it for me.

That is pretty rare with LASIK.
Interesting. Can you cite studies, please? Because the ones I've read (I'll try to dig up some citations later) indicate that it's not that uncommon. Perhaps you just have a different definition of "pretty rare" -- can you quantify that?
Rivka, first of all, you are absolutely correct that everybody's definition of "rare" and "common" is different. I shouldn't have used those terms, especially because I was mainly referring to experiences of my friends and acquaintances who've had LASIK. As I've already said, I personally have neither been involved in, nor had the LASIK procedure myself. My original comment was related to sedation for it, and perhaps I should have left it at that. So I apologize for making such a blanket statement.

At your request I did a thorough literature search, mainly on PubMed, and I've attached several references to abstracts here. As you probably already know, one of the beauties and flaws of Evidence Based Medicine is the fact that sometimes different groups of investigators researching the same subject may not get the same results. You can often find conflicting studies done in large institutions and published by reputable sources. Statistics and results can be presented in various ways and complex methodology may on occasion be confusing to the reader. That said, it is not my wish to discuss the subject on which I am not an expert any further, but these are a couple of article abstracts of large reputable studies that convey the general efficacy and safety of LASIK. I hope you find them as helpful as I did.


Am Journal of Ophthalmology, Dec 2006

Ophthalmology, Nov 2006

Brittish Journal of Ophthalmology, Jan 2006

[ January 12, 2007, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: Dark as night ]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I missed your response until now.

The first study compares two groups with LASIK and the second compares LASIK patients to PRK. I'm not sure how either answers my question.

However, the third does . . . but let's see what that abstract says.
quote:
At 2 months postoperatively 67% of eyes were within plus or minus 0.5D of attempted correction with 81% within plus or minus 1.0D. At 5 years postoperatively 60% of eyes were within plus or minus 0.5D of attempted correction with 83% within plus or minus 1.0D.
Assuming that the 81% can now get by without glasses (a reasonable guess, although these things are somewhat subjective), that would still be 19% that cannot. And that number only improves very slightly after a few years (and with the number with the "best" change decreasing) . . .

1 chance in 5 of still needing glasses/contacts (which is about what I have heard and read previously) is simply not acceptable odds to me. Especially considering that my degree of nearsightedness and my astigmatism would actually make my personal odds worse. As well as increase my odds of other problematic side effects, like decreased night vision and halos.

1 in 5 also does not meet my personal definition of "rare" -- YMMV.
 


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