Yes, I know Smallville has plenty of things to pick apart, yet I still enjoy watching it. I am willing to look past most of those things, but the one thing that is starting to tick me off is the whole Lana/Clark dance around his secret.
I just watched last week's episode, and I'm starting to feel abused and manipulated by the writers of Smallville. Every other episode it seems, during the last 6 years, has included this same scene, just different dialogue inserted:
quote:Lana: Tell me your secret Clark.
Clark: What secret?
Lana: Don't lie to me Clark.
Clark: I just don't think you and I will work out.
Lana: Don't you trust me?
Clark: .....
Lana: (rolls eyes)
Clark: I would never do anything to hurt you.
Lana: Then stop keeping secrets from me.
Clark: I really hope you are happy.
Lana: I want to be happy with you, but you won't let me in.
Clark: Wanna' look in my telescope?
How many times do they think we can watch that same sequence before suffering from PTSD or some attachment disorder? Either have Clark tell her (and let it last for more than one episode) or just stop it.
*End of rant.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
They figure that they have entirely different twelve year old viewers every six weeks.
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
Fantastic thread title. Marlozhan wins the forum for today.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
I liked the twist this time though. Lana KNOWS that Chloe knows, and that must drive her nuts.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Everyone except Lana and Lois already knows that he's superpowered. So Clark should just tell his secret and admit that he's gay. That way at least Lex won't be ticked off at him for stringing Lana along.
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Lana: For the last time, Clark, if you love me you must tell me your big secret.
Clark: I can't.
Lana: You must.
Clark: Ok. Your right. Here it is....
Lana: Yes?
Clark: I'm Superman.
Lana: Well, Duh. Everyone knows that. You've got to tell me the big secret.
Clark: The big secret?
Lana: Now.
Clark: Ok. Ok. Every Tuesday night, when you think I'm out playing poker with the boys...
Lana: Or saving the world as Superman.
Clark: yes, or saving the world as superman, really, me and Lex are out behind the old barn doing all kinds of kinky....
Lana: Yeah, I know, Its all over the internet. Does the phrase Superboytoy.com mean anything to you? Come on, I need your big secret.
Clark: You don't mean...
Lana: Now, Clark, Or I'm leaving for ever.
Clark: Ok. Ok. Here it is.
Clark hands Lana the secret she so long has sought, and so richly deserves.
The secret recipe to Bush's Baked Beans.
(Krypto got it for Clark from that over-talkative Golden Retreiver.)
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Boy, if Superman had enough baked beans the midwest would end up being a giant, smoldering crater.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
The sad thing is that Dan's amusing post is far more entertaining than all of Smallville after about the middle of season 2.
I don't understand why so many people keep watching that giant, smoldering crater.
Posted by Marlozhan (Member # 2422) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: The sad thing is that Dan's amusing post is far more entertaining than all of Smallville after about the middle of season 2.
I don't understand why so many people keep watching that giant, smoldering crater.
Well, since it is emotional abuse, it's for the same reason that abusees can never seem to break away from their abusers.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Are there shelters for Smallville escapees?
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
I watch it with some resignation. I don't expect great things anymore. Dropped characters and plot points, awesome cliffhangers-season premiers whose potential for teh awesome is lost by episode 3 of the new season. I want to see where it is going, though. Just for a sense of closure I suppose. And because it is just entertaining enough. But I don't get excited about it anymore.
And occasionally- occasionally- they surprise me with true awesomeness. Then, 3 episodes after that, it is back to the status quo.
Oh well. There are worse vices.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
I've enjoyed the season so far. I like the Green Arrow, Chloe is still fun, I can't get enough of Lois, and Lionel I think is more interesting then ever. Now if they would just get rid of Clark, Lana, and Lex we might end up with a really good show.
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
Haha. I only watched Season 1 and part of season 2, and I distinctly remember the exact scene Marlo set up in the opening post.
Oh, and Dan, quite funny as usual.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
Lana is the worst character every written. Inconsistant, the virgin-whore, the dream of every male- of this planet and not, the most perfect, self-centered, being in the show. Instead of Superman and Lex being enemies because they stand for polar opposites, at their core, the catalyst for the hatred and enmity, stands the Mother of God, Lana Lang.
I despise her and her presence in the show.
For this Jonathan died?
And Martha/Lionel? Wrong on so many levels. I keep thinking, is everyone stupid? Seriously. The man who killed his parents, tried to kill Chloe (and Lex saved, no thanks to him from anyone- the billionaire whipping boy), has had other people murdered, put hundreds of people out of work (like Chloe's blacklisted father) or cheated them- he's sitting at a table eating with the Kents? And this not even a year after his arch-enemy Jonathan died?
Wrong on so many levels.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
LANA: Clark, I know you have secrets, and I hate it so much I get stomach cramps, but I still want to be friends even though the sexual tension between us is thick enough to hold a spoon. Say, how'd you get here so fast, anyway?
Clark glances away and down, which is how even people watching from neighboring states know he's About to Lie.
CLARK: Gee, Lana, you must have had one of your many blackouts while I was walking over here in a totally normal fashion. Let's just stand here and stare at each other helplessly while the WB plays a reasonably priced pop single, OK?
quote:And Martha/Lionel? Wrong on so many levels. I keep thinking, is everyone stupid? Seriously. The man who killed his parents, tried to kill Chloe (and Lex saved, no thanks to him from anyone- the billionaire whipping boy), has had other people murdered, put hundreds of people out of work (like Chloe's blacklisted father) or cheated them- he's sitting at a table eating with the Kents? And this not even a year after his arch-enemy Jonathan died?
See, I could somewhat understand if this started happening after Lionel revealed his knowledge of things Kryptonian...sort of. A bit of friendship by necessity sort of thing.
But it was going on even before that...and anyways, even after that, don't you think Chloe might at some point say, "Hey, Clark and Mrs. Kent, you do know Lionel murdered his parents with the help of a crime boss, correct? That it was the foundation of his empire?"
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
Dan's post brought tears to my eyes. (And I really enjoyed Chris' column, too.)
I have no idea who Jonathan is (was), and that makes me happy.
I cut and ran by season three. Or four. I forget. I feel so well-adjusted and un-abused! Go me!
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: I've enjoyed the season so far. I like the Green Arrow, Chloe is still fun, I can't get enough of Lois, and Lionel I think is more interesting then ever. Now if they would just get rid of Clark, Lana, and Lex we might end up with a really good show.
I think Ollie is great. What they need to do is spin off tonight's ep into a real Junior Justice League (or Teen Titans) show. Part of the problem with Smallville is that Clark is boring. He whines, and he disrespects his friends, and he's basically a major pain in the rear. Having a cast of heroes would allow them to move from one to the other without overfocusing on any of them. The success of Heroes might get them to actually do this. Reactions to tonight's ep would help as well. They need more than the one superheroine, though. Acrata was in one ep, and disappeared, and she's a reasonable Batman substitute in many ways. Maybe they could keep Chloe as the "Sue Dibny" non-powered coordinator.
I've been saying for a long time that they should kill off every single character on the show except for Chloe, Lex and Lionel, and give Chloe Clark's powers. Let the only three people who can act their way out of a paperbag act.
But a Teen Titans spinoff... that might be better yet.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Tonight? It's not tomorrow night?
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
quote: But a Teen Titans spinoff... that might be better yet.
No way. Live-action shows where the heroes are in tights just don't work. It just seems too goofy.
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
I like the show.....When it actually has a story.
Im sick of Lana, and Im sick of a "Meteor Freak" being the villain in every single episode.
Clark does not see Chloe for who she is. She loves Clark unconditionally and is the one person that would never cause him any harm or tell anyone his secret.
But he keeps worrying about that slumbitch Lana. (Credit for the word slumbitch to Uncle O of course Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:...and she's a reasonable Batman substitute in many ways
Blasphemy!
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: Tonight? It's not tomorrow night?
No worries, it is tomorrow, just checked.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
I only saw one show, and since I didn't get to see Clark's dad fire dynamite-tipped arrows at him, I was seriously disappointed.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Olivet: I have no idea who Jonathan is (was), and that makes me happy.
I cut and ran by season three. Or four. I forget. I feel so well-adjusted and un-abused! Go me!
I would say I was even less-abused than you (I barely manged to watch most of season 2, and have only watched the occasional episode since), but since I do know who Jonathan is, clearly I bear deeper wounds than you.
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
Jonathan, of Jonathan and Martha Kent, as per the Superman mythos.
Posted by Marlozhan (Member # 2422) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geraine: Clark does not see Chloe for who she is. She loves Clark unconditionally and is the one person that would never cause him any harm or tell anyone his secret.
AMEN.
I mean, what does Clark NOT see in her?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by IanO: Jonathan, of Jonathan and Martha Kent, as per the Superman mythos.
Natch.
quote:Originally posted by Marlozhan:
quote:Originally posted by Geraine: Clark does not see Chloe for who she is. She loves Clark unconditionally and is the one person that would never cause him any harm or tell anyone his secret.
AMEN.
I mean, what does Clark NOT see in her?
The initials LL.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
I gotta wonder what that's all about. It can't be coincidence.
I never saw seasons 1 and 2, but now that my kids got seasons 3,4 and 5 for Christmas, I'm living in Smallville Hell.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I liked seasons 1 and 2. I saw 3, and dropped out toward the beginning of 4.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
The same thing got to me with Smallville as did with Lois & Clark: The New Adventures, and many DC comics. What's the deal with all the secrecy? After a point it just becomes incredibly stupid. And personally I like Lana. I think Lana and Clark make the prettiest couple ever. Lana has absolutely earned Clark's trust. And now they're spreading the elaborate lies in to Oliver and Lois' relationship. How hard would it be to just say, "Yes, I am Green Arrow"?
I much prefer the Buffy approach where they say screw secrecy. Well, after the second season anyways.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I'm about to pee myself laughing at Dan's post. The thing is, I've never seen an actual entire start-to-finish episode of Smallville. Well, maybe one. But generally I come in half an hour in or am flipping through and pause on it for ten minutes or something. And yet, no matter when I tune in, I always come in on the, "Clark, if you loved me you would tell me your secret!" "What secret? I love you and I am completely honest with you!" conversation!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:What's the deal with all the secrecy? After a point it just becomes incredibly stupid.
I actually liked the way that L&C dealt with that. Mostly. Including the alternate universe episodes.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
I agree that all Tempus episodes were awesome. And L&C eventually did let Lois find out, which made the show more fun in my mind. Then of course came the continual postponement of the wedding, the crazy frog eating Lois clone, and Lois' memory loss induced singing life. And then the show got cancelled. Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
I really can't understand what all the complaining is about. It's a TV show for gosh sakes. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: I agree that all Tempus episodes were awesome. And L&C eventually did let Lois find out, which made the show more fun in my mind. Then of course came the continual postponement of the wedding, the crazy frog eating Lois clone, and Lois' memory loss induced singing life. And then the show got cancelled.
*laugh* You left out the entire fourth season -- my favorite season. (Of the ones that actually aired, anyway. Seasons 5 and 6 were even better.)
Posted by B34N (Member # 9597) on :
Is tomorrow episode really going to show the whole group of them ganging up against Lex's new army or you think it'll just be another episode that leads up to this great war or whatever?
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Storm Saxon:
quote: But a Teen Titans spinoff... that might be better yet.
No way. Live-action shows where the heroes are in tights just don't work. It just seems too goofy.
They don't have to be in tights, at least not all of the time. Focus on the people, rather than the powers. That could have been the best part of Smallville, had they had a main character who wasn't so lame.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by Marlozhan: I mean, what does Clark NOT see in her?
The initials LL.
Chloe SuLLivan.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yeah, well...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Before they added Lois to the show, someone wrote a great little fanfic where Chloe went to college, dyed her hair black and grew it longer, and legally changed her name. Then she moved to Metropolis.
One of the only Smallville fanfics I've ever liked.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
"I really can't understand what all the complaining is about. It's a TV show for gosh sakes. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it."
Because of the wasted opportunity. Even as poorly plotted and absurdly acted as this is, it still has some compelling aspects that make you long to go back to the first season and just start slapping everybody. The actors playing Lex and Lionel are two of the finest on television today, packing hundreds of layers into everything they say or do. It's a joy to watch them work.
What this should have been, what I was hoping it would be, was a look at how a super-powered farm boy becomes Superman. How did he develop his powers? How did he find his place in the world? How did he approach his responsibilities? Instead we got the O.C. with special effects. I could have forgiven the careless destruction of the Superman story -- this Clark Kent can't possibly grow up to be the Superman we know, for any number of reasons -- but they took an epic American myth and made it into a substandard soap opera.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
Speaking of college, did they all drop out? Lois and Chloe journalists without any degree? Lana just mooching off of Lex?
Posted by IanO (Member # 186) on :
one of the many eternal questions. Along with how many trips poor college students (excepting the LAna of this season) can make between Smallville and Metropolis.
Chris has it right. There was so much potential and greatness. It still has its moments. And it can be fun. The expectation is gone. Like X-Files when you realized that the mytharch storyline was not tight or crafted well, whos buildup and execution was poor, where plot points and potentially great ideas and characters and theories ('O, I see where this is going! This is going to an episode in the 3rd season...'). It's all gone.
But just fun enough. And complaining about it is fun too.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: "I really can't understand what all the complaining is about. It's a TV show for gosh sakes. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it."
Because of the wasted opportunity. Even as poorly plotted and absurdly acted as this is, it still has some compelling aspects that make you long to go back to the first season and just start slapping everybody. The actors playing Lex and Lionel are two of the finest on television today, packing hundreds of layers into everything they say or do. It's a joy to watch them work.
What this should have been, what I was hoping it would be, was a look at how a super-powered farm boy becomes Superman. How did he develop his powers? How did he find his place in the world? How did he approach his responsibilities? Instead we got the O.C. with special effects. I could have forgiven the careless destruction of the Superman story -- this Clark Kent can't possibly grow up to be the Superman we know, for any number of reasons -- but they took an epic American myth and made it into a substandard soap opera.
Precisely!
Also precisely why it is far too painful for me to actually watch the current travesty.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: "I really can't understand what all the complaining is about. It's a TV show for gosh sakes. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it."
Because of the wasted opportunity. Even as poorly plotted and absurdly acted as this is, it still has some compelling aspects that make you long to go back to the first season and just start slapping everybody. The actors playing Lex and Lionel are two of the finest on television today, packing hundreds of layers into everything they say or do. It's a joy to watch them work.
What this should have been, what I was hoping it would be, was a look at how a super-powered farm boy becomes Superman. How did he develop his powers? How did he find his place in the world? How did he approach his responsibilities? Instead we got the O.C. with special effects. I could have forgiven the careless destruction of the Superman story -- this Clark Kent can't possibly grow up to be the Superman we know, for any number of reasons -- but they took an epic American myth and made it into a substandard soap opera.
Precisely!
Also precisely why it is far too painful for me to actually watch the current travesty.
My wife cites the fact that I made her watch Lost, Firefly, and Heroes as reason enough for me to start watching Smallville from season 1 to the present with her. She owns seasons 1-5 and I just can't help but be annoyed with everything I've read about it and the few episodes I HAVE seen, I really don't like that the writers seem to have a goal of bringing us super man, with all his powers, and yet he has one of the shakiest moral frameworks I have ever seen.
I honestly respect some of the actors they have in the series, like the guy who plays Lex. But all the different colored kryptonite, the stupid drama fests with Clark and all the girls in the series, and the fact that I just can't look up to Clark just make me see the show as something that had great potential but has already blown it. I'd rather not commit to the series at all.
BTW Heroes is back on come this monday I am excited! Also I read an article at movies.ign.com that said the writers of Lost are going to wrap everything up soon, I really hope they do, I am just annoyed with that show right now, as much as I have loved it in the past.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Geez, I was in Japan for Christmas and was so bored. My youngest sister walked in and wanted to watch the entire first season on Roswell I protested at first and then decided to not bully her in her own house. I sat there for hours watching that entire show, and by the end of it, I concluded that humanity was doomed.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I liked Roswell okay. At least it didn't pretend to be Superman while, as BB says, making Clark so morally ambiguous (not to mention whiney and quite often annoying as heck.)
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Nooooooooo....! Kristin Kruek is the source of all things evil. Shiri Appleby rocks.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Geez, I was in Japan for Christmas and was so bored. My youngest sister walked in and wanted to watch the entire first season on Roswell I protested at first and then decided to not bully her in her own house. I sat there for hours watching that entire show, and by the end of it, I concluded that humanity was doomed.
<shrug> I kind of liked it. I didn't watch it until years after it ended, but I liked it. Mostly.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Geez, I was in Japan for Christmas and was so bored. My youngest sister walked in and wanted to watch the entire first season on Roswell I protested at first and then decided to not bully her in her own house. I sat there for hours watching that entire show, and by the end of it, I concluded that humanity was doomed.
<shrug> I kind of liked it. I didn't watch it until years after it ended, but I liked it. Mostly.
See I "kinda" liked it at first, but then as I think about it in retrospect I get mad at it.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:...by the end of it, I concluded that humanity was doomed.
I concluded the same thing after one viewing of American Idol.
Each to his own, I guess.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa:
quote:Originally posted by Stephan: Thats it. Cancel Smallville, and bring back Roswell with Lex and Chloe as new characters. Kristin Kreuk and Shiri Appleby are basically the same person anyways.
Nooooooooo....! Kristin Kruek is the source of all things evil. Shiri Appleby rocks.
Well yeah, much better actress. But just from their looks they seem to be such Katie Holmes clones for the WB.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk:
quote:...by the end of it, I concluded that humanity was doomed.
I concluded the same thing after one viewing of American Idol.
Agreed. Most emphatically.
Posted by BlueWizard (Member # 9389) on :
Rivka said -
"I don't understand why so many people keep watching that giant, smoldering crater. (meaning 'Smallville')"
Why?
Tom Welling is the answer. If the whole show was just Tom Welling standing and posing, it would still get decent ratings.
He's every girls (and some guys) perfect fantasy.
Just trying to help.
Steve/BlueWizard
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlueWizard: Rivka said -
"I don't understand why so many people keep watching that giant, smoldering crater. (meaning 'Smallville')"
Why?
Tom Welling is the answer. If the whole show was just Tom Welling standing and posing, it would still get decent ratings.
He's every girls (and some guys) perfect fantasy.
Just trying to help.
Steve/BlueWizard
This man speaks the truth! My wife has stopped calling other guys hot or cute because I explained it was unfair of her to get mad at me for making the same observation about girls. But she has insisted that she be allowed to continue to stare at Tom Welling with dreamy eyes and call him hot. I retain the same right for no girls besides Mrs BlackBlade. Completely unfair, but it makes perfect sense to her apparently.
Its the weirdest thing I have seen, he turns 30 this April and he is married!
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Thirty??? Great Caesar's Ghost! I thought his deterioration was from long-term kryptonite poisoning.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
I disagree, Steve. I watch it despite Welling. I watch it for Chloe and Lionel and now Oliver Queen, and for the hope that they'll do something worthwhile with it. If only one ep every season or so.
The first time I saw a commercial for Smallville, we'd just moved back to the US. I think it was even before 9/11. The commercial didn't show anything except what looked like an explosion or natural disaster of some kind, and the word "Smallville". I think I shrieked, which really isn't like me. My partner wanted to know what was wrong, and I explained that this "Smallville" show had to be about Superboy.
It's because of the original excitement expressed by that shriek that I still watch it, despite my almost continual disappointment.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlueWizard: Rivka said -
"I don't understand why so many people keep watching that giant, smoldering crater. (meaning 'Smallville')"
Why?
Tom Welling is the answer. If the whole show was just Tom Welling standing and posing, it would still get decent ratings.
You have a definite point. (It's the eyes.) But even for him I cannot watch that show. Actually, I'd be far more likely to watch him standing around and posing.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by aspectre: Thirty??? Great Caesar's Ghost, I thought his deterioration was from long-term kryptonite poisoning.
Did you know that he's older than Brandon Routh? There's something just wrong about Superboy being older than Superman.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: The first time I saw a commercial for Smallville, we'd just moved back to the US. I think it was even before 9/11. The commercial didn't show anything except what looked like an explosion or natural disaster of some kind, and the word "Smallville".
It was definitely pre 9/11 -- the ads (and the similar billboards, which were plastered all over L.A.) were non-stop summer of 2001.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
quote: *laugh* You left out the entire fourth season -- my favorite season. (Of the ones that actually aired, anyway. Seasons 5 and 6 were even better.)
Huh, I guess I did leave out the fourth season. I guess I stopped watching after the awful events in third season and on remembering thought that it was cancelled. Well, maybe I'll have to rent that one day. Were Seasons 5 and 6 fanfic?
As for Roswell, I loved it when it was on (and I was very much the teenage girl target audience). When rewatching it, the first two seasons didn't fare well, the third did.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: Well, maybe I'll have to rent that one day.
Now that it's out on DVD, you actually can. (I'd lend you mine, but it'd be kind of a far drive for you. )
quote:Originally posted by Amanecer: Were Seasons 5 and 6 fanfic?
Yup. But they were released in live chat sessions one week at a time. By a really dedicated group of fans, some of whom still write L&C fanfic. The Archive is full of some really excellent stuff (as well as the occasional real clunker -- I can make specific recommendations if you like), and a few have even made it into MP3 form, for those prefer to listen to their fic.
Posted by Marlozhan (Member # 2422) on :
So what's Smallville's current ratings? Are they thinking of a season 7? I'm not sure the writers know where they're going half the time. They need some FOCUS.
How much better would Smallville have been had they cut the number of seasons in half, took out 90% of the meteor-freak episodes and, of course, eliminated the emotional abuse? "Smallville from concentrate" would have been great.
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa: The first time I saw a commercial for Smallville, we'd just moved back to the US. I think it was even before 9/11. The commercial didn't show anything except what looked like an explosion or natural disaster of some kind, and the word "Smallville". I think I shrieked, which really isn't like me. My partner wanted to know what was wrong, and I explained that this "Smallville" show had to be about Superboy.
It's because of the original excitement expressed by that shriek that I still watch it, despite my almost continual disappointment.
I remember having that feeling when I was sitting in the theatre watching The Phantom Menace. The first new Star Wars movie in 15 years! Wow! I had chills when the title music played.
After that, all was ashes, of course, but those first few moments of the title music... mmm.
Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
I still watch Smallville each week that it's new, mainly so I catch the good episodes (which are usually season openers, season finales, and one or two episodes in between). Most times anymore with the Clark/Lana stuff, I just do something else while it's on and then tune back in when it's off. It's typically only four or five minutes towards the end of the show if it's there, so it's pretty easy to avoid once you get used to it. Still I agree, Smallville could be so much better if some of this stuff wasn't repeated ad nauseam so much.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Actually Smallville is much easier to watch on DVD because there are entire seasons where you can watch each episode up to where Clark and Lana are standing awkwardly near each other, and just Skip to the next episode. You don't miss anything of importance and you avoid that queasy feeling.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
They did the Clark/Lana thing tonight with Lois and Oliver. How magical.
They also covered the only real reason why Superman would ever need the rest of the Justice League. "Dammit Clark, you don't want to play as part of the team, man. And you found out you needed us, in case you ever stumble into a room full of kryptonite. I mean, other than that, yeah, we've got nothing to offer, but oooh that kryptonite."
Also, I think tonight they foreshadowed (not the right word, really) that Chloe was going to die and have her brain patterns turned into the Watchtower AI.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
If they kill Chloe, I will stop watching.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
The only member of the Justice League Superman needs is Batman, to save him from being an idiot.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: The only member of the Justice League Superman needs is Batman, to save him from being an idiot.
Bruce Wayne in any continuity would probably just walk up to this Clark and slap him.
edit: shameful grammar and spelling
[ January 19, 2007, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: Stephan ]
Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
I don't think they were foreshadowing Chloe dying and becoming a Watchtower AI. I think the whole Watchtower thing was just reference to the fact that the real JLA does use the Watchtower for information, usually relying on one person who is there to provide it (some times J'ohn J'onzz or some times Oracle, who isn't necessarily in the Watchtower). I think it was purely an inside reference to people who know about the real JLA and nothing more.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Wait. Tom Welling is turning 30?!?
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by Storm Saxon: Wait. Tom Welling is turning 30?!?
Yup, born April of 1977. Now do the math. How old was he playing a 14 year old high school freshman? 24.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
So, basically what you're saying is that if Tom Welling is set on fire, we'll all feel better about ourselves and our non-mutant aging processes?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
No. Only if we bludgeon him to death with a porkchop.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan:
quote:Originally posted by Storm Saxon: Wait. Tom Welling is turning 30?!?
Yup, born April of 1977. Now do the math. How old was he playing a 14 year old high school freshman? 24.
This was actually a Good Thing, as it meant I was not lusting after jailbait.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: No. Only if we bludgeon him to death with a porkchop.
Which will then be served with a nice Merlot?
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: This was actually a Good Thing, as it meant I was not lusting after jailbait.
No, just imaginary jailbait.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:Bruce Wayne in any contiuity would probably just walk about to this Clark and slap him.
This definitely should happen. In fact, they should air a special new Friday 1:30pm EST 5min. episode of Smallville with just this happening.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: No. Only if we bludgeon him to death with a porkchop.
Which will then be served with a nice Merlot?
Well, it will be nice and tender.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh:
quote:Bruce Wayne in any contiuity would probably just walk about to this Clark and slap him.
This definitely should happen. In fact, they should air a special new Friday 1:30pm EST 5min. episode of Smallville with just this happening.
I'd watch it. Even though it would be on at 10:30 in the morning.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
5 minutes, nothing. An hour of slapping would barely be enough, especially considering there would be commercial breaks and a pause to promote whatever new pop song Bruce was slapping Clark to the tune of.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
I would DEFINATELY watch an hour episode of Bruce Wayne laying the smack down on Clark.
Also I agree that Tom Wellings aging processes must be the product of mutant genes, perhaps he really is from another planet.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stephan:
quote:Originally posted by rivka: This was actually a Good Thing, as it meant I was not lusting after jailbait.
No, just imaginary jailbait.
You are making an incorrect assumption.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by Stephan:
quote:Originally posted by rivka: This was actually a Good Thing, as it meant I was not lusting after jailbait.
No, just imaginary jailbait.
You are making an incorrect assumption.
I know. In fact I know what you mean to. Its like seeing a gorgeous actress in her 20's playing a teenager. Its ok to be attracted to the actress.
Posted by Marlozhan (Member # 2422) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: 5 minutes, nothing. An hour of slapping would barely be enough, especially considering there would be commercial breaks and a pause to promote whatever new pop song Bruce was slapping Clark to the tune of.
Well, I think I'd take the pop songs over the music they played on last week's episode. Every scene with emotional tension played some weird music that made me think an axe-killer was going to jump out at any moment and slaughter everyone. I guess horror music is the way they build the tension now, even though we are talking about interpersonal scenes, not scenes that involve mortal danger.
Posted by pfresh85 (Member # 8085) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: 5 minutes, nothing. An hour of slapping would barely be enough, especially considering there would be commercial breaks and a pause to promote whatever new pop song Bruce was slapping Clark to the tune of.
*cough* Hey, look over there! *hides his copies of Smallville: The Talon Mix and Smallville: Metropolis Mix* Posted by unicornwhisperer (Member # 294) on :
I've decided that if they make a Paula Abdul biography movie. Erica Durance (Lois) would play a perfect Paula Abdul. Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
Tom Welling? Hot? What the hell? The only decent looking guy on that show is Lex, Michael Rosenbaum. He is quite cool.
Posted by Princesska (Member # 8954) on :
quote:Originally posted by Marlozhan: Yes, I know Smallville has plenty of things to pick apart, yet I still enjoy watching it. I am willing to look past most of those things, but the one thing that is starting to tick me off is the whole Lana/Clark dance around his secret.
I just watched last week's episode, and I'm starting to feel abused and manipulated by the writers of Smallville. Every other episode it seems, during the last 6 years, has included this same scene...
Holy crap, they're still doing that?
I watched Smallville religiously for the first three seasons. I couldn't stand anything else on the WB but I thought this was the greatest show ever. And the cliffhanger that ended Season 3 made me think that Season 4 would be completely different, especially since Clark was going to Metropolis for college. I thought, 'Clark will hold his liquor better than anyone else at the frat. And Lana -- like most real high school romances -- will gradually fade out of the picture, while Lois takes her place.' Then Season 4 does roll around, and... Clark's joining the school's football team.
Um, ? Had my local network affiliate accidently aired a rerun of the pilot? Then, my faith already shaken, Season 4 gave us not less, but more of Lana!
Where's the evolution? Stories are supposed to evolve! This series just goes on cycles!
I'm sorry if I'm rambling a bit, but Smallville used to mean a lot to me. I used to schedule out time to watch every new episode when it first aired, because if it was recorded and watched later, the picture quality would be lower. But I haven't seen a lot of Season 5 and none of the current season. I don't even own a television anymore. And I used to write fanfic about this show!
I'm not watching it anymore, but just hearing about what's going on, it's almost as painful.
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