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Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Since I can't access SR from work, I thought I'd be like a n00b and start a thread instead of looking for one that is similar in topic AND copy a really great idea from another forum.

So anyways, I just stumbled upon some wedding photos of an ex girlfriend. While I'm glad I'm no longer in that relationship and I am happy enough with my wife, it still stirred some weird feelings in me.

I guess it's like seeing someone else drive your car around or wear your number on their jersey. It's not important on a personal level, but there's a certain circuit in your brain that was burned in by the time you spent with that person and it's odd to see he/she leading a life without you.

It's got me in a bit of a funk and my productivity at work has taken a crap for today. Hopefully I'll get over it.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
That is weird. I can't access Hatrack from work, but Sakeriver remains unblocked.

Oh, and you should get over it. You moved along and got married and she did too.
 
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
 
PC: It's sort of a "beautiful sadness". At least that's how I would describe it... Beautiful because you remember how wonderful the person was (cuz you forget the bad stuff like he used to pee on the seat) and sad because it's all gone and will never come again.

Or maybe I'm projecting my own past feelings?
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
I get that, Pix. Not necessarily sadness, but some nostalgia.

Anyway, here's my right off:

My weekend is completely crammed with unpleasant stuff I have to do. Grrrrr.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
When I'm faced with contacts to people of my past who have (of course) moved on, it makes me feel uneasy, like I might get sucked back into that role. A definitely unsettling feeling, but it can be dealt with -- it's just so, hmmm, echo-ish?
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
My Right Off -- Claudia Therese doesn't check her private messages.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
Someone want to explain the concept of this thread to those of us who have/do not read Sake, or is this supposed to be an exclusive in-joke?
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Right Off -- a complaint about something that is not at all good.

Antonym: Right On.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
Like Tante said. The Right Off thread is a place for you to say, "This happened, and it sucked. It's not big enough to make a whole separate thread, but Right Off nonetheless!"

***

I had the same sensation when I found out an ex and his wife are having a baby (maybe even had one by now). Very weird.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
See I heard "Right Off" in the sense of, "He got the jump on me right off." or "My pawn took his knight almost right off."

So the thread confused me. Thanks for the explanation Tante.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Pixiest:
PC: It's sort of a "beautiful sadness". At least that's how I would describe it... Beautiful because you remember how wonderful the person was (cuz you forget the bad stuff like he used to pee on the seat) and sad because it's all gone and will never come again.

Or maybe I'm projecting my own past feelings?

I like that phraseology.

I don't think you're projecting too much. If the person viewing those photos was me after we had broken up, it probably wouldn't have been so bad. I'd only be thinking about how much of a sucker the new guy was.

These days, though, I can only remember the two and a half years we dated as some decent times.
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
"Right off" always meant something wasn't allowed to me, or what BB said.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
In context, Sakeriver has what are referred to as "Eternal Threads." Meaning, no one really starts threads over there. If you have something to say, you find a thread that sort of fits it and post it there.

It all started with the "Right On Thread." It was started by saxon75, the host of that forum. It was a place to post about the good things that happened to you. The thread caught on and quickly became popular.

However, someone (I can't remember who exactly) had a really crappy day and wanted to post about it. Since the Right On Thread was definitely not appropriate, the Right Off thread was created as its antithetical. It has also been popular.

There is also a Right Onff thread, created by our own Claudia Therese, that fills in the middle. An example of a Right Onff would be finally learning how to drive stick, but spraining your wrist in the process.

So, I just borrowed the idea. There are enough people who post over there that also post here that I thought the idea would carry over okay.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
My throat hurts.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
I think the phrase "Right Off" is used in this case because, as Tante said, it's the antonym of "Right On". So someone says something great has happened, you say "Right On!". Someone says something crappy has happened, it only makes sense to say "Right Off!". That's how I interpret it anyways.

ROff: I was laying out on the Green today (college campus, big grassy area, etc) and got hit by a frisbee. It was most unpleasant. And the guy who hit me didn't even invite me to play (which I would have). Meh.


Edit: Yeah, what PC said. And it was Noemon who started it over on Sake.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
Tante, PC, D.Strange: Gotcha. Thanks for the explanations!
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Couldn't the antonym of "Right On" be "Wrong On?" or even "Wrong Off?"
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Not really. An opposite is never truely a complete opposite.

In binary, there's ones and zeroes, right? Well, one and zero still exist within this universe, this plane of time and within this context. The true opposite of one and zero would be impossible for us to fathom, as it wouldn't be able to exist nor would our brains be able to comprehend it.

An opposite still has to have a common thread. The opposite of a full glass is an empty glass, but it's still within the context of a glass.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
quote:
However, someone (I can't remember who exactly)
Ah, Primal, you wound me!

And yeah, I created the "Right Off" thread in direct response to the "Right On" thread. I'd sprained my toe, and wanted to complain about it. The title (The (hopefully not daily) Right Off Thread) was a joking mirror image of saxon's thread's title (The (hopefully daily) Right On! Thread) (actually, I'm not sure if there's really an exclamation mark in saxon's thread, or if I just mentally stick one in every time I see it) (I feel the urge to add another parenthetical phrase in this sentence) (and another).
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
quote:
In context, Sakeriver has what are referred to as "Eternal Threads." Meaning, no one really starts threads over there. If you have something to say, you find a thread that sort of fits it and post it there.
This isn't quite as much the case as it once was, actually; just lately there have been a rash of new threads. The eternal threads aren't going anywhere, but people are also feeling more free to create new ones than they have in the past.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I have to go back to work in two hours, and I have to call about a dozen campgrounds asking for information.

This after harping on my friends all week to make sure they did it by today.

It's gonna be a long night.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Of course! How could I forget!

Noemon: Sakeriver's Tom Davidson.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:
Not really. An opposite is never truely a complete opposite.

In binary, there's ones and zeroes, right? Well, one and zero still exist within this universe, this plane of time and within this context. The true opposite of one and zero would be impossible for us to fathom, as it wouldn't be able to exist nor would our brains be able to comprehend it.

An opposite still has to have a common thread. The opposite of a full glass is an empty glass, but it's still within the context of a glass.

I'm not so sure,

"The opposite of war is not peace, its creation?"

The opposites of nouns and verbs seem to follow different rules if you ask me. Even stranger if its an adjective.

Is the opposite of running, walking or standing still?

The opposite of smart is dumb, but what is the opposite of happy? Is it sad or angry?

The opposite of right is wrong, and opposite of on is off, is there any disagreement on that?

Perhaps our perception of "right on" differs. I see right on as similar to when an Australian says, "Good on ya mate!" Right is obviously the correct state, and On suggests that it is occurring like "he is on the ball."

So if you are trying to say that something wrong is not happening and you are glad that is the case I should think "Wrong Off" would be appropriate.

If something wrong is occurring that you wish was not, "Wrong On" would be the right concept.

Finally, if something good did not happen that ought to, I think, "Right Off" would be the accurate description.

But hey, YMMV and English is by no definition subject to my decrees. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Thefore I clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you.
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
The original sake threads both have exclamation points; the Right Onff thread does not.

This post brought to you by Megan Trivia, Inc.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
lately there have been a rash of new threads.

Maybe a little cortisone cream could help with that.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
Thefore I clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you.

[Laugh]
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Does anybody want a peanut?
 
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
 
Right Off: To not having enough money to pay for necessary oral surgery, and it being so darn expensive, and dental insurance that won't even pay for 1/3rd, and for making about $100 too much to qualify for assistance, and for our medical insurance not covering it...and just on and on.
 
Posted by DaisyMae (Member # 9722) on :
 
I haven't set foot outside of my house in an entire week for two reasons. 1-It's so blasted cold. 2-My kids and I have been in bondage to a most nasty seemingly everlasting cold/cough/sore throat/head-ache thing. Not only have I not left the house, I've gotten practically nothing done in the house. I'm a very grumpy mommy. Now I'm to the point that the forced laziness has taken hold and I don't even want to leave the house. I just want everyone to shut up and leave me alone (which, of course, is impossible).
Right off.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
Thefore I clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you.

[ROFL] That gives my post a whole new light for me.
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
Due to the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 (????? some good it's doing), birth control now costs twice what it used to. My boyfriend agreed to pick up the other half, but it still put a damper on my day.

What kills me, is I could have just gotten 12 months worth in October, but I didn't because I thought it would be easier to spread the cost out. [Mad]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
No kidding - I can't belive how expensive birth control is. It's been out for thirty years now, and it is still ~$30 a month for both pills or the ring? I swear it's artificially inflated. I want to sic the anti-trust avengers on them. Are the anti-trust avengers still in business?
 
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
 
Right Off: I had to leave work early today because I was sick. And I had a fever so I was too sick to enjoy it. Too sick to read Harry Potter. Too sick to enjoy the Match Game. Too sick to eat saltines and chicken soup. I just lay in my bed and was miserable.

Right Onff: I'm feeling a little better now. Thus the post.
 
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
 
Right Off: Like Liz B, I'm sick today. I haven't been able to keep anything down and I feel horrible. It's probably unfair, but I'm also feeling slightly peeved that neither of my roommates have checked in on me. I find it doubtful that they've missed my lovely vomit sounds all day. Maybe not though, who knows. *futilely sips water*
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
No kidding - I can't belive how expensive birth control is. It's been out for thirty years now, and it is still ~$30 a month for both pills or the ring? I swear it's artificially inflated. I want to sic the anti-trust avengers on them. Are the anti-trust avengers still in business?

Welcome to, well, modern medicine.

I'm convinced we've discovered much better drugs for things like heartburn and cures for things like herpes, but they will never be released because a lifetime of treatment medication = $$$.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Right Off: My back hurts. It's a different hurt than the usual back hurts. It doesn't feel like muscle hurt, it feels like it's fusing together. I know, not bloody likely, but that's how it feels.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Tante: sent you an email via HR profile. [Smile]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
In the scheme of drug prices for the consumer, birth control prices are relatively sane. $30 is actually less than many pharmacy prescription co-pays.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Yeah. I've paid upwards of $20 or $50 a pill before. That didn't work and caused me problems that resulted in emergency visits.
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
No kidding - I can't belive how expensive birth control is. It's been out for thirty years now, and it is still ~$30 a month for both pills or the ring? I swear it's artificially inflated. I want to sic the anti-trust avengers on them. Are the anti-trust avengers still in business?

Before now (I like to think of them as "the good old days") I was paying $11 a month. Eminently reasonable for a college student who doesn't have much money to spare. I haven't quite got up the courage to call the pharmacy and find out how much I'll be paying now. Goodness, the more I think about this, the more depressed it makes me. [Wall Bash]

And I can afford the hike. What about the girls who can't?
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
I just assumed "right off" was a play on the words and idea of "write off" . . . i.e., to write off, make away with, forget, get over a bad thing.

Ex: Some companies "write off" a bad debt.

In terms of playing with words, then, "right off" in humorous opposition to "right on" makes sense . . .

eh?
 
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
 
Indeed.
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
[Cross-post from sake]

My sister's mother-in-law has been in the hospital since a bit before Christmas; her heart stopped last Tuesday, and she's been in the ICU on life support since then. The family is meeting tomorrow to discuss the cessation of the life support.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I'm so sorry, Papa. You and your family will be close in my thoughts tonight.

That is a very difficult conversation even to contemplate.
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Sucks, PM. Really really sucks. [Frown]
 
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
No kidding - I can't belive how expensive birth control is. It's been out for thirty years now, and it is still ~$30 a month for both pills or the ring? I swear it's artificially inflated. I want to sic the anti-trust avengers on them. Are the anti-trust avengers still in business?

As an unmarried bank teller, I paid a little more than $30 at the county health department. That got me an annual exam, breast screening, pap smear, condoms, two months worth of pre-natal vitamins just in case, and a year's supply of birth control pills.

I can't say it often enough folks. Try the health department or Planned Parenthood and see what the prices are like. There's such a huge difference for me, it's not even funny.
 
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
 
Right Onff: I'm saving up to buy a car by working at a place that's always been so understaffed that there's loads of overtime to go around. I got a friend a job there even though I wanted overtime, and she did so great my overtime dropped to nothing. Then she stole money from the till and got fired and now I have all the overtime I want.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blacwolve:
And I can afford the hike. What about the girls who can't?

Assuming they're having sex with one person, they could ask that one person to help with the costs of birth control.

Other than that...it's not like contraceptives are a right. Whether they should be or not is a whole 'nother story.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
quote:
ROff: I was laying out on the Green today (college campus, big grassy area, etc) and got hit by a frisbee. It was most unpleasant. And the guy who hit me didn't even invite me to play (which I would have). Meh.
You have GRASS? You can sit OUTSIDE?

(stop complaining [Wink] )
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
Pop, I'm sorry.
 
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
 
I have had a rough couple of weeks.

Two weeks ago a careless driver ran a red light and totaled our family's only car. Fortunately only I was in the vehicle and I was able to walk away from it, but it really took the wind out of my sails.

Last week we were supposed to close on our first home. Unfortunately Bank of America screwed up our mortgage and so we weren't able to close on time. The situation was complicated because we were taking advantage of a subsidized mortgage rate through a third party that depended on our income level. Between when we locked in our loan and closing I got a raise, which would normally be great news, but made it impossible for the mortgage company to reevaluate our loan because we would no longer qualify for the subsidy. Without the subsidy we couldn't afford the home. So on Thursday it looked like we might not be able to buy the house at all.

So that situation worked itself out, but the closing got delayed until Wednesday (day after tomorrow). We were able to move in anyway, by signing a temporary lease from the owner. The move went fine (although it took a miracle in the shape of a 300-lb bodybuilding Vermonter who just happened to be in the neighborhood to get our piano up and into the house).

We were settling into our new home, getting to know its quirks yesterday. We left for church at 3:15, then went straight from church to dinner at my wife's sister's house. We drove by our old apartment to grab a load of leftover boxes and then out to our new place. We were greeted by billowing smoke and the melodious beeping of our fire alarms. Evidentally while we were gone a cardboard box tipped onto the stovetop and ignited (we either left a round on, or the falling box turned one on). The kitchen was pretty much completely destroyed, and everything else sustained extreme smoke damage. If we'd closed on the home, our homeowner's insurance would have taken care of everything, but as it is it looks pretty unlikely that it will cover anything. The seller's insurance is apparently covering damage to the house, but that leaves all our stuff which now needs to be moved out, cleaned out and thrown out (if it can't be cleaned).

So anyway, we haven't even bought the home and we've already destroyed it. Or at least damaged it pretty good. But at least we got to know our neighbors, who were extremely kind and helpful. And there's been an outpouring of love and help from both my family, my wife's family, and our friends here. But still, right off, you know?
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Ohhh, ouch. I am soooo sorry. I'm glad no one was hurt, and I hope that there will be a solution to the insurance.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Hokey Smokes! That's seriously off!

I do hope that this run of bad luck exhausts your supply of bad luck for the rest of forever. Please!
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Oh Peter, I'm so sorry to hear that!!
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
Peter, I'm so sorry. [Frown]
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Cwap, Peter, that's horrible. [Frown]


-----
I sprained my thumb a month and a half or so ago and it's not getting better. In fact, it's actually getting worse. And spread to the other hand. [Mad] Darn stoopid defective ligaments or tendons or whatever it is. [Mad]
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
So, my boss (the owner of the company) asks me to design some marketing material that looks like and is laid out like a passport. So I design this creative, funny, intuitive booklet (not to toot my own horn). He takes a look at it and starts making slashes and x's and it ends up looking like every other brochure we make with a cover that has the word "passport" on it. It is full of the exact same ideas he uses in every marketing tactic we try. And golly, none of them have ever worked.

What can I do? I can't say, "Hey owner of the company, I know you sign my checks and all, but you're a freaking idiot and if you'd just stick to your plan and try something creative we might actually get some business around here."

So I redesign it and it looks like crap and my name gets stuck on it and whoopie! I get to use this in my portfolio! ugh.
 
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
Other than that...it's not like contraceptives are a right. Whether they should be or not is a whole 'nother story.

For SOME people out there, birth control should be a RESPONSIBILITY!!!!

(This is a tongue-in-cheek joke, by the way. Offense is not intended, unless you were the target of the joke. That being: idiots who, for any number of reasons, don't deserve to have their genes passed on.)
 
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vonk:
So, my boss (the owner of the company) asks me to design some marketing material that looks like and is laid out like a passport. So I design this creative, funny, intuitive booklet (not to toot my own horn). He takes a look at it and starts making slashes and x's and it ends up looking like every other brochure we make with a cover that has the word "passport" on it. It is full of the exact same ideas he uses in every marketing tactic we try. And golly, none of them have ever worked.

What can I do? I can't say, "Hey owner of the company, I know you sign my checks and all, but you're a freaking idiot and if you'd just stick to your plan and try something creative we might actually get some business around here."

So I redesign it and it looks like crap and my name gets stuck on it and whoopie! I get to use this in my portfolio! ugh.

Does your boss, by chance, have pointy hair?
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
No, should he? I could recommend it.
 
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
 
Careful! If you do recommend it, he might get your reference to Dilbert!
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Ah! That would make him sharper than me, so I'm not worried. [Wink]
 
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
 
[ROFL]
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
"Hey! Good idea boss! Let's use your favorite creditial from two freaking years ago to show potential clients how current we are in the industry! The business will be ROLLING in!"

[Wall Bash]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
I mowed my lawn this morning. At 41 years old, I am finally understanding what this "hayfever" thing is all about.

Hmm. Interesting.

Atchew!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
As of May 7, my divorce is final.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
As of May 7, my divorce is final.

I hadn't realized that it wasn't. (((rivka)))
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Hmm. I thought this was an Onff thread. It's actually more of an On than an Off.

I've had my get for almost 5 years. But it has been one thing after another with the legal divorce.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
My fiancee passed away in January and I still can't get out of bed before 10 unless I absolutely have to. I can't do anything but watch TV, and I'm currently unemployed.

I always want to be alone when I'm around people, and I always want to be around people when I'm alone. Maddening.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
(((((Nick)))))

There's no timetable for grief. It hasn't really been that long -- only a few months. And given how young you are, it must have been quite a shock. [Frown]

OTOH, if you feel that it is interfering with your daily functioning, a grief therapist might be able to help.

Did you end up moving back to your parents'?
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Yes, I moved back in to my old room, but if I make enough at my next job, I might be able to buy a home within a few years, maybe less if I stay with my parents longer than the six months I planned for. I just don't want to be a 23-year-old living at home. If I'm out by October, I'll be on my own before 23.

Not that I'm thinking of that very much. I'm mostly trying not to think at all.

I did see a grief therapist. I don't think it helped me too much. I've found that working is the best thing to keep my mind off it, but sadly, I don't have a job.

I've gained a bit of weight as well, since I have my normal appetite without the exercise regimen I used to do.

Just not enjoying life much at the moment. Just about the only thing that makes me smile is watching my niece.

My do I really need to get off the pity-pot.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
It will probably take a while before joy is a part of your every day life again. [Frown] And it's ok, IMO, for you to think that sucks. It does!

If you can force yourself (and I know this is hard to do!) to start exercising again, I think it would help a lot. Energy and endorphins are both good.

It could be that a grief therapist is not what you need. Or it could be that the one you saw was not a good fit, and a different one might be more helpful. [Dont Know]

In any case, I think you could use another *hug*
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Yikes, Nick. That does sound awful. You just ticked off all the symptoms of depression. You may want to seek out a therapist to get you over the hump.

Would parentheses help?

(((Nick)))
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
rivka, what's a get in the context of divorce? And congrats on the divorce being finalized. (Am I correct in thinking a congrats would be appropriate? If I'm wrong, please ignore.)


Nick, they're right - it hasn't been that long, and yeah, grieving will take as long as it takes. [Frown]
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
A get is a religious divorce decree, which is separate from a civil divorce decree. If you get divorced, you definitely want both. Without both, things like remarriage aren't possible.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
(((Nick))) That was only January - it's still been less than six months. I don't think it's worrying that you're still kind of broken about it. It sounds like you have a clear idea of your situation and a plan, and I think that's good. I think you'll be able to get up and get moving when you're ready. Grief is hard. *hugs*
 
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
 
Ah, got it. Thanks, Tante.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
:-/ Nick, dude, I'm sorry. That must be pretty rough. Just know that I'm pulling for you, bub.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tante Shvester:
A get is a religious divorce decree, which is separate from a civil divorce decree. If you get divorced, you definitely want both. Without both, things like remarriage aren't possible.

Anywhere but Israel, anyway. Israeli law views a get as a civilly binding document as well.

Congratulations are perfectly appropriate. A couple of my friends are taking me out to celebrate Saturday night. [Wink]
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
A few weeks ago I went out with a girl I met through eHarmony, and even though I emailed her thanking her for the date that evening she still hasn't gotten back to me! So I sent her another message a few days ago, in response to which I've heard nothing. Why do people think it's acceptable to drop someone in this way?
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
...I think it's okay...

Not great, but...you've only gone on one date, so she doesn't really owe you an explanation. I'm sorry it didn't work out - it's better to know earlier, right?
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
I'm going to agree with kat on this one. She doesn't owe you anything. Just because your eharmony whatsits meshed in their oh-so-scientific way doesn't mean she has to call you back after your introductory date. Maybe she found a chap more to her liking. Maybe it's time for you to do the same.
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
Oh, I agree. I was just thinking she'd send me a short email saying she wasn't interested. I'm not devastated by it.

At least she isn't like the other eHarmony girl I went out with, who after our first date said in an email she wasn't interested, then emailed me a few months later asking how I was doing, and after I responded sent me a link to her blog where she wrote among other things what a boring time she'd had on our date. She wrote things like, "We went to this museum and they had NO exhibits about such and such. What the ...?" and "Well, I wasn't looking at my watch the whole time and he paid for everything, which is always good ha ha ha."

But I'm corresponding with a few other people that I'll probably meet soon, so I'm all right.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tante Shvester:


Would parentheses help?

(((Nick)))

That made me smile. [Smile]
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Right Off: Sakeriver isn't loading on my computer for some reason. It's like my internet is really slow, but other websites work fine. Rather annoying.

Also, I got mysteriously ill yesterday - started shaking like crazy but didn't have a high temperature. I'm feeling better now, but I'm a little disturbed by it...
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
You're not alone, Dragon.
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
you got ill too, Teshi? [Razz]
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I wish I could answer 'yes' to that question, thus ZING!ing you out of existance, but sadly, it was just an ambiguous response [Frown] .
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dragon:
Right Off: Sakeriver isn't loading on my computer for some reason. It's like my internet is really slow, but other websites work fine. Rather annoying.

Also, I got mysteriously ill yesterday - started shaking like crazy but didn't have a high temperature. I'm feeling better now, but I'm a little disturbed by it...

No Sake, afebrile tremors. Sounds like you've got the DT's.

Sake doesn't work for me, neither. Sometimes, it just doesn't do anything. (That's the beauty of it).
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Right-off: Note to self, don't pour boiling water directly on your hand out of tea kettle. Doh! I wonder if I'll get a scar to brag about? [Wink]

Stupid handle on tea kettle broke while pouring.

[ May 10, 2007, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: Nick ]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Nick!
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
It's ok, it happened a few days ago, the blisters are already scabbing, don't worry, I've got the antiseptics handy. [Smile]

I just wanted some tea...
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:

I'm going to agree with kat on this one. She doesn't owe you anything. Just because your eharmony whatsits meshed in their oh-so-scientific way doesn't mean she has to call you back after your introductory date. Maybe she found a chap more to her liking. Maybe it's time for you to do the same.

But surely it's rude for her not to respond to me and tell me she's not interested? Would you drop someone like that?

Again, I'm not angry at her for not being interested in me, but I am a little angry that people seem to think she's done nothing wrong.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Well, that would be the honorable or polite thing to do. Maybe she didn't want to tell you at first, and thought she would get around to it and never did, and by the time she remembered, she figured you got the message that she wasn't interested.

I wouldn't say it's wrong to not call you, but she's one of many that will do this to you. Most people aren't going to call you and say, "I'm really not interested in another date." A lot of people (myself included) like to let life's circumstances speak for themselves.
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
quote:
Again, I'm not angry at her for not being interested in me, but I am a little angry that people seem to think she's done nothing wrong.
Boy are you gonna feel bad when she emails you from the hospital after she gets out of her coma.

Which is to say that you don't know what's going on in her life, and it might make you feel less rejected if you just assume that she was hit by a bus. That's usually what I do.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
It is very common and usually acceptable to not respond after a first date that wasn't working out for you.

I'm not saying it's royal behavior, but definitely widespread and seen as acceptable. In fact I am having a hard time coming up with anny instances where there was contact afterwards, even to express disinterest. I think I would even rather just have someone not be available for a while to clue me into their disinterest than hear them tell me after just one date.

I think it is more expected after a second and definitely a third date to let the other party know you are no longer invested in further exploration.

I wouldn't get hung up on it. It was a first date. That's practically bumping into someone at the grocery store; except that someone paid for it. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Right-Off: Burnt hand really hurts today. I'm wondering if I should have went to the doctor.

Pic of Burn (not safe for easily nauseated people)

Should I be doing something to make it heal faster?
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
Nick, yes, do treat that burn. I would recommend at the very least that you put neosporin on it and bandage it each night before you go to bed. It's very hard to keep your hands from getting wet, but you should try to do that, and replace the bandages at least once a day. I would suggest using the bandaid "advanced healing" type of bandage (they work best when used alone, without neosporin), but I don't think they make any big enough to cover that burn. See if you can find some, though. They come in a silvery box.

If you treat wounds like this, they heal much faster, and scar much less. It will help prevent infections, too, which can cause additional tissue damage. It's really important to take good care of yourself, and not ignore things like this. If you had a child or pet with a wound this bad, you wouldn't just ignore it and hope it gets better (I hope). You should always treat yourself with the same care you would anyone else who is under your stewardship. Be good to yourself! It matters.
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
Oh, dear. That looks terrible, Nick, do take care of it.

I once accidentally grabbed a hot iron handle on my skillet that had been in my oven for a half hour at sixty bajillion degrees F. I held onto it long enough to pull it out of the oven and set it on the stove- it literally took that long for the OH MY FREAKING GOSH message to run from my hand to my brain. The skin on my hand had gone all warpy and I was a screaming demon.

I was cooking dinner for friends, but had to stand with my hand under the sink for about ten minutes, and only took quick breaks to answer the door. I didn't want them to sit around eating without me in my apartment; solution? I held a cold can of Dr. Pepper all evening. I put some in the freezer for a couple hours and even slept with one in my hand. This solved the quandry of taking a potentially leaky bag of ice into bed with me. Brilliant!

It more or less healed up my hand overnight. I wasn't even left with any scars.

P.S. Simmer Down by Bob Marley and the Wailers was stuck on loop when i got burnt, and continued to play over and over and over again as I wimpering at the sink waiting for my friends to show up and rescue me. Hilariously annoying.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
I also ran it under the kitchen sink for a few minutes, followed by holding my hand in a bucket of ice water until it turned purple. Didn't do much to stop it from blistering though.

Another right-off: I'm typing this on my parents computer since my computer's hard drive just decided to die. Off to buy another one once I get a job...
*computerless* [Frown]
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Going to have to say goodbye to Hatrack for a few weeks until I can afford a new computer...
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Nick, if you see a doctor, you'll get set up with some Silvadene cream and gauze. Good stuff, that. Well worth the trip, I'd think.
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Is Silvadene green? My Mom told me I put my hands on the stovetop to try to climb onto the counter when I was a toddler and a neighbor who was a nurse put some green gel on it. Apparently it worked quite well.
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
Silvadene is white and creamy, and good for wounds and burns (unless you are allergic to sulfa), and available only by prescription. It makes the burn feel better and heal faster. Try it, you'll like it.
[Wave] <-- see, it healed the graemlin's burnt hand!
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Right off:

Tonight was in my top three of worst nights ever at my job, and I can't remember ever wanting to just walk out on my job as much as I did earlier tonight. I can't begin to explain how pissed I was or how crappy and stressful tonight was, but imagine a 6'4 250lbs man yelling at you all night long because he's your boss who isn't doing very well at his job and thinks it is your fault.

Tomorrow or Monday depending on when I get up tomorrow, will be only the second time in three years of working at the restaurant that I will take a complaint above my manager's head to the assistant general manager. I don't like going over people, I like solving personal problems directly with the person who is annoying me, but this is just way too much. Tonight was a clusterfrick in general, and you know it's at that point when a kitchen manager tells the general manager (guy who runs the whole restaurant) that he should "go f yourself" about a half dozen times to his face, yelling it for all the restaurant to hear.

It was not a good night, but that little incident kind of cheered me up some, and bitching about it tomorrow will be a much welcomed catharsis as well.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Silvadene is AWESOME stuff. It healed a burn on my daughter's arm -- so well that it was almost invisible even a few months later, and is now completely gone.
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Yesterday I towed a boom lift an hour and a half to a job site that wasn't ready yet, blew a flat on the lift on the freeway, had to wait two and a half hours for the wrecker, was carrying a ladder on my truck that hit a drive through and busted out the tailgate, and just now I got in a fender bender in the company truck. Time to hide under a rock for the rest of forever.
 
Posted by Mama Squirrel (Member # 4155) on :
 
Mooselet Update (copied from an e-mail from 7/24, and cross posted on Sakeriver):

Well, we have some decisions to make now.

Due to changes in medical groups (and therefore doctors) we were 4 months late in getting Carl in for a check up on his feet. We saw the new orthopedist today. Dr. Maguire is a nice doctor about whom we had previously heard very good things (at the time he was not available through our medical group).

Our previous orthopedist (Dr. Stroberg) had mentioned a couple of years ago a surgery that might eventually be necessary. Well, Dr. Maguire mentioned that surgery today. Basically Carl's feet turn 15 degrees in from the hip line instead of 15 degrees out as they should (when laying on his tummy with his feet up). He said the surgery can be done now, or when Carl is 8, or 10 (basically anytime). Carl's hip rotation is fine. His gait is a little stiff, and he sometimes falls if he gets running too fast and trips himself. His ankles are also a little weak, but he has no pain. Dr. Maguire said it might be fine for Carl not to have the surgery, but he thinks it would be a good idea. Basically the hips can change until age 9 (rotation), but the tibia is set by about age 5.

The surgery is called a "tibial osteotomy." I tried to find something online, but everything I could find was about tibial osteotomies that have to do with arthritis (one of the knee and one of the ankle). Basically the tibia is cut through and then the foot is rotated and the bone is put back together and pins are inserted. After Carl spends 4 weeks in casts (and a wheelchair) the pins are removed.

There are pros and cons regarding when to do the surgery (during school vs. summer). During the school year he has something to keep his mind off of being in a wheelchair, although he would miss out on recess. If done during the summer he would have to watch his brothers enjoying time playing outside throughout the day. The casts could also get very uncomfortable with the heat.

So, yeah, we have some decisions to make now.
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
I went on vacation. I returned to find out that my mother's recovery from a bad car accident several months ago has taken a turn for the worse, and she will now need hip replacement surgery.

And someone stole 300 dollars from one of the stores I manage.
 


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