Nihon e itte mairimashita. Shinjinarenai gurai de subarashikatta desu.
Mada atte inai mina san no tame, watashi wa Annie to iimashite, matsu jitsu seito iesu kirisuto kyoukai no senkyoushi no tsutome kara kaetta bakkari desu.
Kore kara mo, yoroshiku o negai itashimasu.
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
Exactly. Very well put.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
If I had put it in kanji, some would not be able to read it. This way everyone can.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I meant to say hi at Galactus too, but it doesn't remember my password. *cry*
Also, I haven't slept in 32 hours, so this might not be a long lasting conversation tonight.
(guilty confession) I had occasional trunky dreams for the past few months of trying to email and post on forums and my password not working.
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
Annie! Does this mean you're back? If so, welcome home!
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
Welcome back! I have no idea what you said, but that's really cool!
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Welcome back! I'd respond better if I had a clue what you said, but I'm guessing you had a wonderful time and missed us all terribly. Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
I just tried so hard to get a translation but I'm failing miserably. I know Jesus is in there, though... : )
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
Okaerinasai.
You don't need the 'de' in the second sentence. Posted by esl (Member # 3143) on :
ack, Euripides beat me to it.
okaerinasai
and, oyasuminasai
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:You don't need the 'de' in the second sentence.
That's the beauty of speaking missionary Japanese. Actually I stuck it in there because I'm so used to dropping particles that I figured if I wouldn't have said it it must belong there.
I just woke up at 6:30 on the nose despite jet lag, by the way.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Annie! Welcome back! Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Domo Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
((((((((((Annie!))))))))))
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
WELCOME BACK! It is SO fantastic to see you again!!!
Aaah, this just made my week better!
(((((Annie)))))
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie:
That's the beauty of speaking missionary Japanese. Actually I stuck it in there because I'm so used to dropping particles that I figured if I wouldn't have said it it must belong there.
I'm sorry if I came across as snarky or nit picky; that wasn't my intention. And you did say you were going on 32 hours without sleep.
Where was your mission? I come from around Nagoya and grew up in Tokyo.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
:runs around in circles: I'm sure Jon Boy fix your GC usernames. He spayed and neutered Porteiro's username, even.
Hey, why don't you just make a new username Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Welcome back! Yay!
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
Yay! Annie is back! Welcome home, Sister Annie. Tell us all about your mission!
Seriously, you should write a long landmark post and tell us all about it.
I think it's hilarious that you had dreams of posting to forums and your password wasn't good. It must have been really hard to go 18 months without posting! I don't think the mission leaders realize how much they're asking.
Welcome home! We've missed you! Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
Welcome back, Annie!
Posted by Brinestone (Member # 5755) on :
Hello!
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Welcome back.
Posted by Liz B (Member # 8238) on :
Okaerinasai, Annie!
(Hajimemashite!)
I lived in middle-o'-nowhere Japan for a year with the JET program. That was 10 years ago, though, and my Japanese is very, very rusty. Garsh, I can't believe it's been that long.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Originally posted by Euripides:
quote:Originally posted by Annie:
That's the beauty of speaking missionary Japanese. Actually I stuck it in there because I'm so used to dropping particles that I figured if I wouldn't have said it it must belong there.
I'm sorry if I came across as snarky or nit picky; that wasn't my intention. And you did say you were going on 32 hours without sleep.
Where was your mission? I come from around Nagoya and grew up in Tokyo.
I didn't interpret it as snarky. I appreciate the tips. I realize how incredibly dame my nihongo is. But ee - shoganai kana?
I was in three areas - first Numazu in Shizuoka Ken (sakana oishiiiii!), then Yokohama - I lived right in Naka Ku on the bottom side of the bluff, and then for a while in Hachiouji, the inaka end of Tokyo. Where in Tokyo did you live?
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Welcome back, Annie! I approved your new account and changed all your other accounts to use the same e-mail address. If you still need me to manually reset your passwords, let me know.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tatiana: Yay! Annie is back! Welcome home, Sister Annie. Tell us all about your mission!
Seriously, you should write a long landmark post and tell us all about it.
I think it's hilarious that you had dreams of posting to forums and your password wasn't good. It must have been really hard to go 18 months without posting! I don't think the mission leaders realize how much they're asking.
Welcome home! We've missed you!
*hugs* Thanks!
I'm thinking of posting maybe my emails home on my livejournal or typing up some of my analog journal. Also, I am totally dedicated to writing an abstracty postmodern mission novel. Beginning today!
I was only in three areas, my favorite of which I went back to at the end - beautiful beautiful Yokohama. I love love love the Japanese people, but I actually spent a large percentage of my time working with immigrants - Colombians, Filipinas, Nepalis, and Chinese - so many Chinese people!
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Welcome home, Annie!!!!!! *tackle hug*
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:He spayed and neutered Porteiro's username, even.
I'm much better behaved now.
Posted by Zevlag (Member # 1405) on :
Annie!
I'm so glad you excited your mission so much. I also, just recently returned (22 Dec 2006). I absolutely loved my experience as well. How much Chinese did you pick up? Or where the Chinese learning Japanese? Or did you just teach in english?
I keep saying I will write up a big mission report landmark, but I just haven't taken the time to do so.
Welcome back!
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
Hallo! Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
...was that two years? O.O
Welcome Back, Annie! Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
Welcome back. Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Women only serve for a year and a half.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Oh. Well still!
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:How much Chinese did you pick up?
I learned "I am a Child of God" for Qiao Jing's baptism. And all the words for my favorite foods she cooked. And that's about it. Most of them spoke Japanese or English, and we have Chinese (and Taiwanese) members in the ward that translated for the investigators who didn't. *sigh* How I love them Chugokujins.
Posted by hansenj (Member # 4034) on :
Welcome home! We've missed you.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Zev, I've been promising a mission landmark for almost five years. I hope I get to read yours.
And welcome home, lovely Anneke. I've missed you terribly and have you on my fridge right now! *hugs*
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Hey Annie! Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Welcome back! Nice to see you!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
(Oh, man, who's going to take a count of all the babies that have been born while she's gone and point her to the threads?)
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Yes - who? I got no baby pictures at all, by the way. Even though I expressly asked for them.
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie:
I was in three areas - first Numazu in Shizuoka Ken (sakana oishiiiii!), then Yokohama - I lived right in Naka Ku on the bottom side of the bluff, and then for a while in Hachiouji, the inaka end of Tokyo. Where in Tokyo did you live?
We moved around a bit, but in the South East, in Ōta-ku and Meguro. I also spent some time in Yokohama, but I was too young to remember.
If you choose to write a landmark about your experiences, I promise to read it no matter how long it is! I'd be very interested in Japanese reactions to your work, and what kind of strategies worked in which area.
Posted by Lavalamp (Member # 4337) on :
- Bob & Dana
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Did we really not send you any baby pictures, Annie? I'm really sorry about that. But here's the thread.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
There's a Scopatz baby too? *dies*
They are both unbelievably cute. They are both now freakishly old.
Also, today I met my best friend's baby who was born while I was gone and I'm going to Utah this week to visit another recently birthed best friendling.
I'm having some psychological spasms with the amount of children being brought into the world by my peers whilst the most I can claim credit for is some dang good leg muscles.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
So Euripides - are you Nihonjin? If so, your Eigo is freakishly jozu. Are you hakujin? If so, your Japan experience is enviable. Are you ha-fu? If so, that explains a lot.
I was in Ōta-ku for a Christmas party once. That's all I know of it.
You and I shall have nagabanashis on Japan, my friend. Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
If you're going to be in Salt Lake, you should drop by and see us while you're here (if you have time and all that).
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
We've got another one coming in May, too.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Not baby pictures, but here is the new Hatrack Photo Album (Foobonic having gone away).
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Welcome Back!!! It was so fantastic to see your thread. I missed you so much!
Here's my Aerin's blog. Her birth was, um, somewhat... unusual. You can also go directly to her Yahooalbums.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Tom!!! I must be asleep. May?! That's fantastic news!!! News that makes me grin! My congrats are late, but they're heartfelt all the same.
Annie, even I didn't realize how many babies appeared while you were gone!! When you add them all up, it's quite a few. Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie: I'm having some psychological spasms with the amount of children being brought into the world by my peers whilst the most I can claim credit for is some dang good leg muscles.
Well, at least you've been trying, I guess? ???
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie:
You and I shall have nagabanashis on Japan, my friend.
Indeed we shall.
Yep, I'm half Japanese, half Australian. I live in Sydney now.
When did you start learning your Japanese? From the little I've read, I was under the impression that missionaries didn't get too much time for orientation; at least not enough time to learn a new language. If you learned most of your Japanese on the job, that's really impressive!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, since we're all doing our own babies, that's easier. As you can see, we had a bit of a baby boom while you were gone.
quote:Originally posted by Euripides: If you choose to write a landmark about your experiences, I promise to read it no matter how long it is! I'd be very interested in Japanese reactions to your work, and what kind of strategies worked in which area.
Seconded!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Welcome back, Annie. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote:Yes - who? I got no baby pictures at all, by the way. Even though I expressly asked for them.
They're printed out in an envelope that I tried to send to the mission pouch. I don't know if they don't don't that anymore, of if they just took a look at it and said "that's too thick" and sent it back. But I still have it and was just going to send it when I heard you'd probably be back before it would necessarily catch up to you.
I meant to have another baby by now. I passed up a job opportunity thinking I was going to have a baby (believe it or not, I really wanted to be a TSA weasel). But I guess it's been good for me to be home with my other kids a bit. At least I can take my part of ownership for their weird behavioral problems when I'm home with them. I have to wait a year now because I think it would be cruel to deliberately give birth to a child in the year of the pig.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
quote:Originally posted by Euripides: When did you start learning your Japanese? From the little I've read, I was under the impression that missionaries didn't get too much time for orientation; at least not enough time to learn a new language. If you learned most of your Japanese on the job, that's really impressive!
When a missionary goes on a mission for their native language, they spend 3 weeks in the MTC (Missionary Training Centre, of which there are more than half a dozen worldwide) getting trained. When they're going to a foreign-language mission, they spend 6 weeks to include language instruction.
Of course 6 weeks is not sufficient for most people to learn a language (a friend of mine is one exception, but she was learning Dutch in the MTC, and already spoke English and German, so it was all very familiar to her already...), so the missionaries enter the field with basic language instruction, not necessarily able to string whole sentences together and sound intelligent at the same time.
All greenies (new missionaries) are paired with a senior companion who, theoretically at least, has been out long enough that they've picked up enough of the language to get by.
From the missionaries I know who served foreign language missions, they pretty much were all fluent by the time they came home.
My friend who went on a Dutch speaking mission later got exemptions for the first two years of Dutch language classes at the university and skipped into third year. Does that give you a bit of an idea?
As a further comment, some foreign language missions or areas within a mission don't have anyone at the MTC to teach that language. Sinhala, as spoken in Sri Lanka, is one such example. Instead, there are church members here who teach the missionaries Sinhala when they arrive. Those missionaries, provided they're in the country long enough (most missionaries here tend to stay within the same language area for a pretty good long time, but some get switched around a bit), still become fluent or fluent enough anyway.
They might not be able to write grammatically correct sentences and they might not have the vocabulary to discuss cricket in detail, but they do know enough to discuss the gospel and get by with ordinary day to day stuff.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Welcome back, Annie! Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:When they're going to a foreign-language mission, they spend 6 weeks to include language instruction.
It's actually 9 weeks for most languages, and 12 weeks for some (such as Japanese).
And yes, 12 weeks is far too long to spend in the MTC.
:waves: back to everyone
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Annie Just thinkin' last weekend, "Ain't it time for Annie to return from her mission? Hope she decides to start posting when she gets back." And no, I didn't remember when you left or keep track of the time. Of course you remain fondly regarded; surprised that you hadda ask... Or was that a Japanese-culture thing? Or me mistranslating? Can you translate your thread-opening message as closely to phrase-by-phrase as possible? I think I got it, but switching Japanese structure and idiom into my thinking language coulda easily messed me up. eg senkyoushi -> sen kyo ushi -> big old cavity -> aching void needing to be filled -> ?nagging long-owed debt & major long-held obligation? And shinjinarenai <-> shinjirarenai ?Me misremembering the spelling?different meanings? Etc...
[ February 25, 2007, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
Thanks quid and Annie.
*tries to imagine spending 3 months in an MTC*
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
quote:Originally posted by Annie:
quote:When they're going to a foreign-language mission, they spend 6 weeks to include language instruction.
It's actually 9 weeks for most languages, and 12 weeks for some (such as Japanese).
And yes, 12 weeks is far too long to spend in the MTC.
I didn't know it had changed. Thanks for letting me know.
And yup, 12 weeks is far too long to spend in the MTC. Poor poor Annie.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Annie! Welcome back! Wow! Time flew . . . tell us all about it, please??!?!?!? *smiles*
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:And yes, 12 weeks is far too long to spend in the MTC.
No kidding. We were climbing up the walls.
Posted by Euripides (Member # 9315) on :
I thought only Zen masters and people who were aware of the true nature of the Matrix could do that.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
quote:people who were aware of the true nature of the Matrix could do that.
Mormons?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
*bump for Zalmoxis*
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Welcome home Annie!!!
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Domo! Posted by cmc (Member # 9549) on :
Seconding aspectre's translation request.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
[ February 26, 2007, 11:11 PM: Message edited by: Annie ]
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Does that help?
It says:
I went to Japan and humbly came back. It was wonderful to a degree of unbelievabilty.
To the everyone that I haven't met, I am called Annie, and have just returned from the work of a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
From henceforth, I humbly ask that you please be nice to me.
Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
It looks pretty. Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
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