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Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
I'm so sick of the UPS guy drawing on the dry erase board, with his cutesy little additions, and his monotone little improvs. "Early birds." "Look, Sally is smiling."

Well I'm not smiling. Cut your hair you hippie douche! Go vote for Obama and leave me alone!
 
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
 
[Dont Know]

I assume you're ranting about a commercial? Just one more reason I don't miss television.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
And I would like to vote to tar and feather the folk who make a habit of cutting to the front of queues.

Get back in line!

*shakes fist (filled with feathers)
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
I don't get it.
 
Posted by Swampjedi (Member # 7374) on :
 
CT, save enough tar and feathers for those idiots who use the driving lane to turn left instead of using the turning lane.
 
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Swampjedi:
CT, save enough tar and feathers for those idiots who use the driving lane to turn left instead of using the turning lane.

And for the people who go through the express lane at the grocery store with too many items.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I did that once when it was late at night and snowing so bad I couldn't see the lines, and I couldn't remember if there was a left turn lane or oncoming traffic to my left.

People around me were not happy.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Yes! Yes! Misuse of the turning lane and misuse of the express lane. Vile.

I grant exceptions for people I assess -- in my infinite wisdom and omniscience -- not to be making a habit of the transgressions, but honestly and unavoidably to be confused just that one time.

But fie -- fie, I say! -- on ye habitual transgressors! A pox, and then the tar and feathers!
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
People who keep the same pace as the car to their right when in the left lane of the highway. I don't care if you're going the speed limit. I don't care if you're going ten over and so is the car next to you. Pass or follow!! I'm trying to go twenty over!

I'm serious.
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
You're an ass. Obey the law, and shut your yap.

DISCLAIMER: Anything said in the previous post was meant in jest. You are not an ass. Do not take anything I say seriously. If you were offended by this post, well, you're an ass. Shut yer yap.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
I'd obey the law if the law let me go 75 instead of 55 through Denver.
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
According to my cop friend, it's illegal to coast in the left lane like that (in highway driving). You should always be either passing or getting back over to the right. So I'll echo:

PASS OR FOLLOW.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
From Fort Collins to Thornton (north of Denver, there are thirteen (I counted) signs saying either KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS or SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT. And yet there still some oblivion cruising along in the left lane, going "it's fun to drive!!!"
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
Ok, he's back. "It's UPS early morning delivery."

I thought I was done with this hippie bastard.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I want to tar and feather people that want to tar and feather people.
 
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
 
Not me.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Fascist.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
I want to tar and feather the people who drive five under the speed limit on a two-lane no-passing road. I want to get home, dammit, and I'm hungry and cranky. And if you even think about slowing down further, I'll bust out that tar and feathers.
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
Yes! Yes! Misuse of the turning lane and misuse of the express lane. Vile.

Fun related factoid:
quote:
John Trinkaus ... One of his specialities is the study of minor acts of dishonesty and antisocial behaviour. In his 25 years of research, one demographical group has come to stand out above all others as being most likely to push boundaries and break rules. These are not disaffected teenagers nor Italian football hooligans. They are women van drivers.

Trinkaus's important sociological finding is perhaps best illustrated by his extensive work covertly monitoring a supermarket's "10 items or fewer" checkout over a span of nine years. As many of us may have seen for ourselves, Trinkaus found that some shoppers using this lane had more than 10 items. Some cunningly placed their items in groups of 10 and paid for each group separately. Trinkaus found that about 80 per cent of all the supermarket lane cheats were female van drivers.

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/05/cheating_as_sta.html
 
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
 
I would tar and feather people who are tailgating me and flashing their brights at me at night when I'm driving at the speed-limit or a little below while driving on a two-lane, no-passing zone. IF I CANNOT SEE, I AM NOT SPEEDING UP! And it's called a speed LIMIT for a reason!
 
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
 
You are supposed to use it as a lower limit.
 
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
 
If the police agreed with your assessment, I might.
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
Nice link, Mucas. Though I would spin the article the other way. Women who drive minivans have kids and don't have time to put up with any more crap from the world. Very no-nonsense thinkers.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I want to tar and feather people that want to tar and feather people.

I want to buy stock in tar and feathers.

You guys are going to make me rich.

If only burnt effigies were traded on the open market.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
Yes! Yes! Misuse of the turning lane and misuse of the express lane. Vile.

Fun related factoid:
quote:
John Trinkaus ... One of his specialities is the study of minor acts of dishonesty and antisocial behaviour. In his 25 years of research, one demographical group has come to stand out above all others as being most likely to push boundaries and break rules. These are not disaffected teenagers nor Italian football hooligans. They are women van drivers.

Trinkaus's important sociological finding is perhaps best illustrated by his extensive work covertly monitoring a supermarket's "10 items or fewer" checkout over a span of nine years. As many of us may have seen for ourselves, Trinkaus found that some shoppers using this lane had more than 10 items. Some cunningly placed their items in groups of 10 and paid for each group separately. Trinkaus found that about 80 per cent of all the supermarket lane cheats were female van drivers.

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/05/cheating_as_sta.html

Women aged 30-50 are the most likely to ignore the business hours in the cafe I work at and sit around gossiping, thereby delaying my going home. I'm going to start tallying what kind of cars they drive.
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dean:
I would tar and feather people who are tailgating me and flashing their brights at me at night when I'm driving at the speed-limit or a little below while driving on a two-lane, no-passing zone. IF I CANNOT SEE, I AM NOT SPEEDING UP! And it's called a speed LIMIT for a reason!

See, that sentiment doesn't work in Massachusetts. The speed limit is actually 10 miles over the posted sign, but it's the preferred is 15. Seriously, I don't know anyone that goes 55 on my highway. Plus, you don't get pulled over unless you're going at least 75. If it was any less, the police would be pulling over anyone.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
Same thing around here. I was shocked when I first moved here, but traffic goes fast - and drivers don't always pay good attention, especially around curves and up and down hills.

That said, I completely understand going a bit slower at night. At rush hour, though, too slow is a big problem.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
The speed limit is actually 10 miles over the posted sign
[Confused] Then why do they post that limit?

I mean, sure, here many people (perhaps most) go above the posted limit at least occasionally and MOST cops won't USUALLY stop you for it if you're going the flow of traffic, but theoretically you could get a ticket for it (and some people do.)
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
Well, at least on highways. On the smaller roads you usually go at least 5 above the speed limit, but 10 is still the norm. I don't know why the signs are posted like they are. But honestly, it's just the way it is in Mass. That's the flow of traffic. I don't know anyone who actually goes the speed limit, unless they really want to annoy the person behind them.
 
Posted by JMDrocks (Member # 10633) on :
 
Save some of that tar for people who ride bicycles on the sidewalk. (exempting those outside of the 12-112 age group)
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I don't always go the posted speed limit, but I sure ain't gonna feel bad for it when I do.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I want to tar and feather people that want to tar and feather people.

Keep your freaky fantasies off my righteous indignation!
*shakes fist
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Keep your self-righteous indignation away from my fantasies!
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Juxtapose:
Women aged 30-50 are the most likely to ignore the business hours in the cafe I work at and sit around gossiping, thereby delaying my going home. I'm going to start tallying what kind of cars they drive.

At our local cafes, these appear to be mainly women in the 25-40 age range who talk loud, push large baby carriages, and wear matching Lululemon yoga pants. It's the yogalook version of Stepford wives.

---

Edited to add: as clarification, these are far from all or even most of the women with children. Most women hanging out together in groups with kids that do not seem to push the boundaries of working hours. (I notice, though, because I am often working late at cafes but am very aware of watching the closing time carefully.)

[ March 07, 2008, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
quote:
Trinkaus found that about 80 per cent of all the supermarket lane cheats were female van drivers.
Without knowing what percentage of the total population going to supermarkets are female van drivers, this is not very useful.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
If you are on a four-lane highway and you think the speed limit is fast enough, stay in the right lane. If you come up on someone who is actually going less than the speed limit, slow down and wait for the left lane to open up. Then pass as quickly as you can and get the hell out of the way of the real drivers!

Nothing drives me crazier than someone who is just going to hang out in the left lane within one car length in front of or behind someone in the right lane. You are actually endangering yourself by doing that, because one of these days I'm gonna PIT maneuver your a** and send you careening off the highway and into a ditch.
 
Posted by sylvrdragon (Member # 3332) on :
 
The rule of the road is: Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac. Apparently, anyone pacing you is an a-hole.

Also, screw tar and feathers; the people who slow down to gawk at a traffic accident in the opposite lane deserve to be drawn and quartered.
 
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
quote:
You are actually endangering yourself by doing that, because one of these days I'm gonna PIT maneuver your a** and send you careening off the highway and into a ditch.
That would be funnier if it hadn't actually happened to me. Though in my defense, I was passing a semi-truck in the rain so I didn't want to cut right back in front of him considering the slick conditions. Though please, only attempt to scare someone if the ditch is deep enough to keep them from going through it and straight into the oncoming traffic coming from the other way. Because otherwise there's death, and death is not cool.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
You are actually endangering yourself by doing that, because one of these days I'm gonna PIT maneuver your a** and send you careening off the highway and into a ditch.
Technically, this does not count as self-endangerment any more than wearing an attractive dress constitutes asking for rape.
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
I think they put the Massachusetts speed limits (around Boston anyway) at 55 because if they put it at 65, people would still go 20 over, and 85 is pretty reckless.

I never see people going 55, though. 65 is the slow lane, and the fast lane moves just under 80.
 
Posted by dean (Member # 167) on :
 
I like to think that if they put the speed limits at a reasonable number, people would simply follow the speed limits.

I was thinking about speeding last night. The fellows who wrote Freakonomics said that people make calculations in deciding whether to "cheat." "Cheat" in this case means any kind of rule-breaking, and speeding would apply. The mental calculation is a question of weighing the benefits of cheating and the penalties for not-cheating against the likelihood of being caught and the penalties for cheating. (The example they gave was teachers helping their students on standardized testing. If a teacher knows her students won't perform well and she knows that if they don't perform well, she'll lose her job, and that they rarely ever catch teachers cheating and even if they caught her cheating, the worst that would happen would be that she'd lose her job, she might well opt to cheat.) For most people, the pay-off of speeding aren't that great-- spend less time driving, can leave later to go to work--, but then again the chances of getting caught aren't that great-- most people who speed aren't pulled over for it--, nor are the penalties for getting caught too awful-- a $150 ticket here. For me, I don't lose much by not-speeding (I have to leave for work earlier, but oh well), and I realize that the chances of getting caught aren't huge (most everybody speeds, and few of them get pulled over) but if I got caught speeding, the penalties for me would be exceptionally heavy. So with the benefits of speeding being fairly negligible, I simply try really hard to never speed.

Other people-- people following behind me in a 45 mile-per-hour zone-- make different calculations, but then they're in a different position and different rules apply to them. But unless they're willing to take the potential consequences on themselves rather than on me, I don't think that they have any right to try to force me to speed up.

Maybe next time you're behind a person that you'd like to tar and feather for going the actual speed limit, you'll think to yourself that they might have a very-good reason for going that speed and have a little patience. Or else you could lobby to get the actual speed limit raised to the level that you think it ought to be.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dean:
Maybe next time you're behind a person that you'd like to tar and feather for going the actual speed limit, you'll think to yourself that they might have a very-good reason for going that speed and have a little patience. Or else you could lobby to get the actual speed limit raised to the level that you think it ought to be.

I like my tar and I like my feathers, and I'm happily using them mentally exactly as I please. Running low on supplies as of late, but that's what I get for a dearth of imagination. [Wink]

Mind you, I do usually assume people probably have a good reason for speeding (might be true, plus better for my peace of mind, as there isn't anything I can do about it anyway), and so long as it does not appear to me they are driving recklessly otherwise, I just ignore it.

I have a harder time with some other behaviors. Cutting in a queue without at least excusing yourself to those already waiting -- and with a good excuse -- isn't one I can come up with a good excuse for doing. Neither is dawdling along in the passing lane nor misusing the turning lane, unless one is simply clueless and confused -- and in many of those cases, likely shouldn't be driving (or should pull out of traffic to figure things out).

Also,
quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
I grant exceptions for people I assess -- in my infinite wisdom and omniscience -- not to be making a habit of the transgressions, but honestly and unavoidably to be confused just that one time.

But given that the tarring and feathering is restricted to mental endeavors, and given my own inordinately high opinion of my judgment skills with regards to others, I'm quite satisfied with my current levels of ire and frustration. Bah, humbug! *shakes fist
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
I wouldn't expect you to speed, dean, my problem is with people who are keeping me from making a decision to speed.

Which is an actual argument I hear that is so selfish and inconsiderate: "If you need to get there in a hurry, maybe you should have left sooner." I actually had a professor say that to me. My response was "Yes, so when you find out your wife was in an accident and is in surgery, I expect you'll stick to the speed limit, because you should have left before you got the news."
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Yes, because habitual speeding to reduce transit time and compensate for preparatory tardiness is obviously comparable to speeding in response to an emergency situation.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
I wouldn't expect you to speed, dean, my problem is with people who are keeping me from making a decision to speed.
They aren't keeping you from speeding, you realize. They are proceeding at a legal speed, as they choose; you don't factor into their decision at all.
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
I find speeding to be selfish and inconsiderate so I find Resh's complaint rather ironic.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
For the times that I am in an emergency, that philosophy of "well, you should have left earlier" doesn't make sense. It's the people who use that attitude as an excuse to be obnoxiously oblivious to what everyone else is doing that are the problem.

Tom, what everyone else is doing should absolutely factor into their decision making. They aren't the only drivers on the road. In all honesty, I bet they are the causes of more accidents than speeders, because speeders are more likely to be alert than the oblivion who only recognizes that he is going a happy speed with no concern with whoever is wishing he'd get out of the left lane and stop blocking traffic.

Look, I don't care if you want to go the speed limit, or even a little less, so long as you're in the right lane. If you disagree with how I'm driving, fine, but the road is for everyone, and what gives you the right to stay in the left lane so that no one can pass you? That's what's inconsiderate and selfish.
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
You have no right to speed so it is unreasonable to expect people to go out of their way to create an environment in which you can do so.

EDIT: I don't disapprove of speeding in general (I do it myself on the highway). I disapprove of the notion that other people should have to worry about inconveniencing me while I'm breaking the law.

[ March 09, 2008, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: Threads ]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
In all honesty, I bet they are the causes of more accidents than speeders...
Statistics would appear to contradict this off-the-cuff assumption. The idea that speeders are necessarily more alert than people obeying the speed limit is not exactly coherent.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
You have no right to speed so it is unreasonable to expect people to go out of their way to create an environment in which you can do so.
You have no right dawdle in the passing lane, either, so it is unreasonable to call expecting people not to do so expecting people to "go out of their way."
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
Thank you Dagonee. As I stated in a much earlier post in this thread (granted it was over a year ago) there are over a dozen signs each way in the 50 miles from Fort Collins to northern Denver that either say SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT or, in case someone believes that SLOWER TRAFFIC is a matter of perspective, KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS. Now I submit to you this: even if there are no signs, we already have cops to remind us that we ought not to speed. Do you need a reminder to have some courtesy on the highway and let me get around you?

Tom, are you sure that it is an incoherent thought? Don't you think it might just be an idea that you disagree with?

No, speeders are more dangerous, because of the excessive speed. They are probably more likely to be reckless as well, but reckless driving and speeding are not the same thing. I'm fast, but I'm not reckless. Slower drivers are probably older and more experienced. But I bet the speeders are more alert.
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
I thought that staying in the passing lane was acceptable as long as you keep with the flow of traffic. Maybe it depends on the state? Or maybe maybe my google-fu is fubar.
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle:
Tom, are you sure that it is an incoherent thought? Don't you think it might just be an idea that you disagree with?

You haven't presented any data to support the claim and it isn't deducible by pure rational thought.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
Threads, you are a perfect example of the problem. "But, but, but I thought-" YOU THOUGHT WRONG!!!

Where does your "pure rational thought" come into "well, I'm going the same speed as the everyone in the right lane (i.e; flow of traffic), so I may as well hang out in the left lane!" You're going the same speed, so stay in the same lane!

Oblivious. Open your eyes and realize you aren't the only one who exists in the universe. Are you like that in the rest of your life too? Or does that trait only show up when you're driving?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
I have a harder time with some other behaviors. Cutting in a queue without at least excusing yourself to those already waiting -- and with a good excuse -- isn't one I can come up with a good excuse for doing.
I can't excuse calling a line a queue.

I'll bet you're a foreign spy.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
For the times that I am in an emergency, that philosophy of "well, you should have left earlier" doesn't make sense.
Great. Too bad 'the times you are in an emergency' doesn't constitute the whole of your conspicuous attempt to justify your lawbreaking to the extent that you are angered by people inconveniencing your criminal activity.

Nor was it in any way relevant to your teacher's quip.

quote:
I bet they are the causes of more accidents than speeders
Pretty dumb thing to bet on.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I actually don't speed in Idaho, because the cops are like hungry mosquitoes here. But the speed limit is 75 and that's plenty fast enough. Set the cruise control and concentrate on steering.

In Utah, on the Wasatch Front, on I-15 from about Ogden down to Spanish Fork, however...

It's a fantastic thing to experience. The freeway becomes a battleground. The right lane is the slowpokes and the occasional ricer with the big muffler trying to cheat the system by passing in the slow lane. The middle lane is the reasonable folks. The left lane is long strings of cars going about 85-90, close enough together that no one from the middle lane can change lanes in front of them. If you dare turn on your blinker, everyone behind you speeds up to cut you off. You have to earn your place in the left lane by muscling into it and holding your spot. You can almost taste the increase in adrenaline and testosterone when you hit that stretch, coming from either direction.

Thing is, if you live on the Wasatch Front you're on the freeway quite often, and you develop this aggressive/defensive mentality of not wanting the really crazy drivers to cut you off or get away with weaving through the lanes. You want to keep a decent space between you and the car in front of you, but you also don't want 3 cars jumping into that space the moment it gets too wide.

I have to admit I'm a different driver in Idaho than I am in Utah. In Idaho (and just about every other state I've driven in) people slow down to let you in when you turn on your blinker. People generally follow the left lane rule. They don't cut you off. I respond by trying to be just as courteous. In Utah, I can feel myself becoming more aggressive and protecting my space, because all of a sudden it's dog eat dog.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
Kind of a stretch to call speeding "criminal activity," Sam. And it was relevant, he was referring to his view of anyone who is trying to get around him when he's going the speed limit.

By the way, do you follow me around looking for things to argue with me about? Why don't you find a different obsession?
 
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle:
Kind of a stretch to call speeding "criminal activity," Sam.

How?
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Kind of a stretch to call speeding "criminal activity," Sam.
Dear Reshpecobiggle: Please answer the following question. Your answer will constitute 100% of your final grade.

Is it a violation of the law to drive faster than the posted speed limit, an act commonly known as "speeding?"

Check one

○ Yes

○ No

quote:
By the way, do you follow me around looking for things to argue with me about?
Nope. Don't flatter yourself.
 
Posted by Reshpeckobiggle (Member # 8947) on :
 
It's not flattering. Just... disturbing. And with your little "time to take an exam" thing there, I'm starting to feel like I'm being molested by my fourth grade teacher (who was kind of a creeper.)

From http://corsinolaw.com/faq.php

quote:
Traffic violations can be felonies, misdemeanors, or infractions. Felonies and misdemeanors are crimes, but traffic infractions are usually not thought to be part of the criminal justice system. Driving over the speed limit is usually classified as an infraction in those systems that use the infraction category and as a minor misdemeanor in those systems that do not. If driving over the speed limit is classified as a misdemeanor, it is technically a crime, but often such crimes are excluded from consideration in a person's criminal record. Whether speeding is an infraction or a crime, it is usually punished by a fine and court costs. A common scheme is for the fine to increase in proportion to the amount over the speed limit for which the ticket is written. Most jurisdictions tell the speeder the amount of the fine right on the ticket and often give instructions for pleading guilty and paying the fine by mail. The offender may have to pay a special fee to get a trial on the ticket and may not be entitled to a jury trial.

Traffic violations may be crimes or may be classified as violations and not considered part of the criminal law. Where they are crimes, they are typically considered the lowest level of misdemeanor and are generally only punished by a fine. However, some traffic violations can rise to the level of more serious crimes, such as vehicular homicide or leaving the scene of an accident, and driving under the influence.

That came on the first page of a google search in which I asked Is speeding a crime? So like so many things in life, it's all a matter of perspective (and local legal definitions).

To call it "criminal activity" necessarily implies that the person doing it is a criminal, and described in such a way in is more a statement of who the speeder is rather than what he is doing.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
In this thread, Resh compares me to his creephat molester teacher from days of yore. A+, would read again.

quote:
So like so many things in life, it's all a matter of perspective (and local legal definitions).
Whether or not an act is criminal is not a matter of perspective (as defined here, 'personal opinion').

quote:
To call it "criminal activity" necessarily implies that the person doing it is a criminal, and described in such a way in is more a statement of who the speeder is rather than what he is doing.
No, it's 100% a statement of what the speeder is doing, which is "breaking the law."

Jeebus.

I went ahead and did the exact same google search to see all the pages you ignored in an attempt to contort wildly around this issue.

The very first entry, hilariously, was

quote:
Is speeding a crime? Good Lord! If you don't know that is a crime...please don't get behind the wheel of a car...or a lawn mower...or a bike.

 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I can't excuse calling a line a queue.

I'll bet you're a foreign spy.

The word has been in the English language since the 16th century and in this modern usage since the mid-19th century.

I can't do anything about your lack of "queue"ness. [Razz] (Though I do have to admit that I am far too familiar with the referent myself.)
 
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle:
Threads, you are a perfect example of the problem. "But, but, but I thought-" YOU THOUGHT WRONG!!!

I searched for highway laws in New Jersey and that's all I could come up with. If you are so sure of the law then it would be nice if you could link me to a place where I could actually read it.

quote:
Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle:
Where does your "pure rational thought" come into "well, I'm going the same speed as the everyone in the right lane (i.e; flow of traffic), so I may as well hang out in the left lane!" You're going the same speed, so stay in the same lane!

Clearly you didn't understand what I posted. You said "I bet they are the causes of more accidents than speeders." That is not supported by factual evidence ("You haven't presented any data to support the claim"). That claim has no merit without evidence ("it isn't deducible by pure rational thought"). Why you felt the need to ridicule the phrase "pure rational thought" is beyond me.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I've never lived in a state where it was illegal to drive at regular speed in the "passing" lane. I've lived in one where it was illegal to go slower than "average traffic" while remaining in the left lane, though.

Note that cruising along in the left lane while speeding is still legally a misuse of the passing lane, even in those states where slow driving in the passing lane is also outlawed. [Smile]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I can't excuse calling a line a queue.

I'll bet you're a foreign spy.

The word has been in the English language since the 16th century and in this modern usage since the mid-19th century.

I can't do anything about your lack of "queue"ness. [Razz] (Though I do have to admit that I am far too familiar with the referent myself.)

English! See that everbody? She don't speak 'Merikan. She talks English.

I knew you was a furrin spy.
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick:
quote:
Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle:
Kind of a stretch to call speeding "criminal activity," Sam.

How?
In many states mere speeding is not a criminal offense, but a "violation" which is explicitly not deemed to be a crime.

In some states it is a crime. And in all states, speeding more than a certain amount is a crime.
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
English! See that everbody? She don't speak 'Merikan. She talks English.

I knew you was a furrin spy.

[Edited for the wrong, just wrong]

Why, my bloody noggin!
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
A-ha!
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I'll trebuchet you, just see if I don't.
 
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
 
I have a new group of people I desire tarred and feathered:

People who leave their shopping carts in the parking lot and don't put them in the corral things they have. Shopping carts damage cars, people - and it's not that long of a walk to put it away, dagnabbit.

I am very annoyed with this.
 


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