Porcelain seems rather expensive and breakable, but presumably it has some advantages over wood. What are they?
Posted by Sm34rZ (Member # 8609) on :
Clean up. They wash eaiser. Way easier.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Come on up to our local thrift store -- you'll find oodles of wooden plates and bowls.
Now, whether you'd want to eat off of them -- well, that's an entirely differnt story.
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
Salad tastes better in wooden bowls.
Now what *I* don't get is why plates aren't metal. I have one, and it's never broken or chipped or stained, ever! It even goes in the oven.
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Trenchers made with thick, crusty bread are best. *nummy*
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Plates are no longer made from wood because wood is a very porous material that tends to absorb whatever's on it. It's not so sanitary, in other words. Old particles of food would be all up in your plates after a few uses (like a sponge you can never get completely dry).
Posted by stihl1 (Member # 1562) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Plates are no longer made from wood because wood is a very porous material that tends to absorb whatever's on it. It's not so sanitary, in other words. Old particles of food would be all up in your plates after a few uses (like a sponge you can never get completely dry).
And then bacteria grow and make you sick.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yeah. As for metal, a lot of metal plates react with a lot of foods. It discolors the plates and makes the food taste bad.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Also, wooden plates would NOT be dishwasher safe.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Unless it was wood covered with porcelain!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Oh, that's a good idea. One little hairline crack, and the inner wood becomes a breeding place for even more bacteria than if there were no outer layer. Plus, has all the breakability of porcelain, and then some.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
This is why plastic is a good idea. Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
Also, metal sparks in the microwave.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: This is why plastic is a good idea.
Yup. Also Corelle.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
Somedays I just want to build a world out of Corelle.
Posted by stihl1 (Member # 1562) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: This is why plastic is a good idea.
Tupperware rules!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I kind of like Corelle. It rarely breaks, but when it does, whoo boy! Long, scary, razor-sharp shards! Cool!
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Wood breeds bacteria, and isn't as sanitary as modern materials.
Posted by anti_maven (Member # 9789) on :
I vote for Shan's trenchers. Like proper roast beef served on a platter of Yorksire pudding.
*drools*
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
My hubby managed to shatter one of our corelle salad bowls. We were both like "Wow, those things break?"
The shards made quite a pretty pattern on the linolium.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I've found that if you are whirling a corelle storage bowl in a plastic grocery bag, sling like, and the bottom of the bag breaks, sending the bowl into a concrete wall, the bowl tends not to hold up so well.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: Oh, that's a good idea. One little hairline crack, and the inner wood becomes a breeding place for even more bacteria than if there were no outer layer. Plus, has all the breakability of porcelain, and then some.
It's so crazy, it just might work.
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
quote: I've found that if you are whirling a corelle storage bowl in a plastic grocery bag, sling like, and the bottom of the bag breaks, sending the bowl into a concrete wall, the bowl tends not to hold up so well.
Metal plates send the heat right through.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But you could have lovely circular designs burned into your dinner table! Or your flesh!
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
mmm... burnt flesh... I mean, I'll stick with porcelin and/or plastic thank you
Though just on principle I'd like to own at least one metal plate, maybe a nice pewter...
also, years in scouting taught me that frisbees make both wonderful plates AND bowls... try for yourself and afterwards they double as entertainment.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Though just on principle I'd like to own at least one metal plate, maybe a nice pewter...
I have a nice round silver platter. I suppose that counts. I wouldn't use pewter for anything I was actually intending to eat off of, isn't it made with lead? Or am I wrong?
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
I am waiting for the explanation of how, just as we no longer use wooden plates because they can cause disease etc., we should give up religion because it causes war.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:I am waiting for the explanation of how, just as we no longer use wooden plates because they can cause disease etc., we should give up religion because it causes war.
Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.
I ate off a wooden plate at a restaurant yesterday, that's what prompted the question. I wonder if you could treat them, say with a plastic or varnish, so they'd no longer be porous? Or maybe my restaurant uses serious amounts of boiling water to kill the bacteria?
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Sorry for the snark; I should have resisted.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I own several aluminum plates that I got from an army surplus store.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
I have a plastic Hello, Kitty bowl.
I have no clear idea where I got it from or how it came to be in my possession.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Did anyone read aspectre's links?
It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.
Posted by Adam_S (Member # 9695) on :
quote: It's got dirt on'it!
clearly someone has never been a hungry scout on a camping trip before.
dirt! pshaw!
Posted by Abhi (Member # 9142) on :
actually, in my country, metal plates are very common. most households use steel plates.
traditional "good" dishware was made out of bronze, copper, silver, gold, or stone.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.
You reap what you sow. Someone who makes snarky--not to mention smug and degrading--posts every time somebody expresses a positive view of religion has no room to complain about this.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I wrote a poem once about how ceramics unite humankind.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Annie, I would love to read it.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
I think I built it in the geocities page builder program. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:Originally posted by Verily the Younger:
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.
You reap what you sow. Someone who makes snarky--not to mention smug and degrading--posts every time somebody expresses a positive view of religion has no room to complain about this.
Who is complaining? I was observing. Plainly, religion does lead to snarky remarks: If there was no religion, neither my snark nor katharina's would have existed.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
kmboots!=katharina
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Meh, both names begin with a k and belong to female theists.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Actually, what was proved was that if properly cared for that happens...but that most people don't.
I have two different kinds, and I DO use them both properly...and I have not had food poisoning for the 3 years I have had them both.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
quote:Originally posted by Glenn Arnold: Did anyone read aspectre's links?
It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.
And then later research contradicted those findings, and further later research continued to contradict it. Unfortunately, people usually know about one, not the other.
You can use either, but you need to treat whichever you use with good care (as Kwea noted). Neither is clearly superior from a food safety standpoint, given proper care.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: Meh, both names begin with a k and belong to female theists.
Wow, and some lucky woman wants to spend her life with you! Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
And her name doesn't begin with a k, and she isn't a theist, and she occasionally has something worth while to say. Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
too...many...jokes...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: . . . and she occasionally has something worth while to say.
So it's true. Opposites do attract.
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
quote:I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
Extra fiber Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
Bu...didn't you order the humus?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*groan*
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
quote:Originally posted by Glenn Arnold: Did anyone read aspectre's links?
It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.
And then later research contradicted those findings, and further later research continued to contradict it. Unfortunately, people usually know about one, not the other.
You can use either, but you need to treat whichever you use with good care (as Kwea noted). Neither is clearly superior from a food safety standpoint, given proper care.
This post, CT, is a perfect example of why I love your posts. Thank you!
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
!!! JNSB! I was just thinking of starting a thread over on sake asking if anyone knew where you were, great to see you!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yeah, it's good to see he isn't dead.
And he's absolutely right about CT, too.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
I was wondering where you had gotten to as well.
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
Hi ElJay! Thanks. I'll have to head over to Sake in the next couple of days and check out 7 months worth of posts and to see how I did on the Sake taste strip test (though I've recently discovered I have anosmia).
But on topic: I like stainless steel cups and canteens for carrying water around to drink in because after time Nalgene bottles and aluminum canteens make water taste like plastic and aluminum, respectively. And I'm afraid of microwaving my food in Tupperware because of the plasticizers that get into food, so I've gone back to different types of glass/pyrex for food that I take for lunch and want to heat up there.
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
Hi rivka , hi Icky! Okay, now I'm going to get some sleep before my graveyard shift, but hi to everyone else who comes along in this thread, too!
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: . . . and she occasionally has something worth while to say.
So it's true. Opposites do attract.
No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.
Posted by Abhi (Member # 9142) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: ]No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.
Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
(Hi, JNSB! )
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abhi: [QUOTE]Originally posted by King of Men: Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.
Posted by Rotar Mode (Member # 9898) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abhi:
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: ]No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.
Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
You sayin' plates are not serious? Fie on you!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.
1) That certainly was not my implication. And dude, if you are going to be all up in everyone's face regarding their personal choices, you really need to develop a thicker skin about your own. You know what they say about glass houses. 2) One person snarked at you, very slightly. And she apologized. You made a mistake about who that person was. When this was pointed out to you, you got extremely snarky. 3) Escalation, which I participated in. And I will apologize for my part immediately after you stop posting anti-religious snarks in inappropriate threads.
Let me know when that happens.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
I can see we are not going to reach agreement on this matter; let me just say that I disagree about some of your statements on the degree of snark. I will post no further on the subject.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
I really am sorry that I hurt your feelings, KoM. I really was expecting this to be another religion thing - you have to admit that most of your posts have that agenda - but that doesn't excuse my being mean. Sometimes my gauge of "funny" is out of whack.
Does an apology count as saying something worthwhile?
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
My remarks were directed at rivka, not you, kmb. Your comment actually was fairly funny; there wasn't really any need to apologise. Mine was intended the same.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I didn't think it was funny. It wouldn't matter except you used my name to make the joke. Considering what you post, consistently, every other time the subject comes up and your general disregard of anyone else's feelings, there is no reason to suppose that you're just brimming with benign bonhomie this time.
Posted by Artemisia Tridentata (Member # 8746) on :
Anyone for dishes from the planet Melmac?
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
No further comments.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abhi: Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
What are you, new? Have you not noticed King of Men's MO? He has no regard for other people, period.
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.
Like I said, you reap what you sow. You are the last person on Hatrack who has room to complain about people getting snarky to you. Whether any of the snarks were appropriate in an innocuous thread like this one--and I'm not saying they were or were not--is beside the point. Until you can find it in yourself to stop being a jackass to everyone else all the time, I, for one, see no reason why anyone should be concerned if someone else is rude to you. You've earned it.
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One little hairline crack, and the inner wood becomes a breeding place for even more bacteria than if there were no outer layer. Plus, has all the breakability of porcelain, and then some.
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