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Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
 
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/46301

It's sort of sad. This guy has no idea that his actions defame Mexico and the state of Chihuahua way more than GRAW 2 ever could.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
While I don't believe the games should be confiscated, I can understand why he is upset. A press release denouncing the game would have been a little better.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
I knew I should have committed self immolation when "XXX2: State of the Union" came out. It dared to suggest that terrorists could take over the government and independent mercenaries would have to be hired to fix everything! It destroyed America's credibility around the world!

I think getting in a huff about the game and saying so only makes people want to see what the fuss is all about. Confiscating the games just shows that ideas are only safe in Mexico if the government agrees with it.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
I more or less agree with Stephan.

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I knew I should have committed self immolation when "XXX2: State of the Union" came out. It dared to suggest that terrorists could take over the government and independent mercenaries would have to be hired to fix everything! It destroyed America's credibility around the world!
I have played neither game, so tell me please: Does the Mexican game show Mexicans as predominantly corrupt, lazy, and stupid? Does XX2: State of the Union portray Americans as predominantly corrupt, lazy, and stupid?
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Well XXX2: State of the Union was a movie not a video game, but in this instance I don't think that matters at all.

And why does environment of a revolution suggest that the people are "corrupt, lazy, and stupid" at even a significant degree, to say nothing of a predominant one.
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
I can't parse your question, but:

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News of Chihuahua's action follows protests made earlier this month by Hector Murguia Lardizabal, the mayor of Juarez, Mexico. Lardizabal claims the inaccurate in-game representation of his city presents Juarez in a negative manner, also increasing tension between the U.S. and Mexico and insulting the intellect of the city's residents in the process.
I haven't played this game, so I don't know what he means, but I have experienced enough popular media to know how Hispanics are usually portrayed. For instance, from the movie Bad Boys, I learned that Miami, the city I grew up in, has no straight Latinos who are not also drug dealers. IIRC, Man on Fire taught me that pretty much the only good people in Mexico are Americans.

I don't think there is anything intrinsic to the environment of a revolution that suggests anything about the people in it. I just wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that popular media depictions of Americans and Mexicans in similar situations show them as facing those hardships in rather different ways, with one cultural response being markedly inferior to the other.

So people in the know: is that the case here? It was a question, for which I'm still awaiting an answer.
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
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IIRC correctly, Man on Fire taught me that pretty much the only good people in Mexico are Americans.
Well, there was the reporter and the cop. (Not to nitpick your broader point. I just loved that movie)
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
I have a hard time getting worked up about the inherent virtue of a video game.
 


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