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Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
[Frown]

Pictures


Probably arson
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
Ohmigoodness!

[Frown]
 
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
 
At least there haven't been any buildings damaged. From what I've heard, the only person injured is the guy they're questioning about the fire.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
I was just going to post about this if no one had.

It was unceremoniously sprung upon me by the NBC news folk during SVU (they preempted commercials to cover it.) My husband knew about it beforehand-- but didn't know what Griffith Park means to me and that it would hit me that hard, so he didn't know to break it to me gently.

I just blogged about it, that and praying being about the only thing I can do. No buildings are destroyed although it has come within 1/4 mile of the Greek Theater, and Dante's View is gone.

It's hitting me really hard.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Dante's View is indeed a great loss. [Frown] I really hope the Observatory, which was just remodeled and modernized, stays safe.

The air outside is smoky enough that I had to remove my contacts. My allergies are having a field day. It's not nearly as bad as the 1996 fires -- presumably because the ash and smoke are only coming from ONE direction, not four -- but it's bad enough that Google's poor weather widget is confused and predicting "fog"!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Map

L.A. Times' Breaking News blog
 
Posted by Raventhief (Member # 9002) on :
 
Um from the article:

"no facts to indicate that this is an arson fire … it could be an accident."

So, not arson?
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
[Frown] now I'm really bummed that I hadn't made it up to hike the park yet [Frown] but it's good that it seems no one was hurt (but the one guy) and at least the buildings seem to be aliright, but still a big loss for the area [Frown]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Raventhief:
Um from the article:

"no facts to indicate that this is an arson fire … it could be an accident."

So, not arson?

Well, that depends. If the guy didn't intend to start a fire, but lit any kind of fire, it's still arson, since fires are prohibited up there. If he was lighting a cigarette and accidentally dropped a match and it caught, that's not arson. If he neglectfully dropped a burning cigarette or neglected to properly extinguish a match, that may or may not be arson or another crime, as the DA decides the statutes apply.
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
if it's an "accidental cigarette fire" issue, I'd half hope that he'd be prosecuted harshly. It may be seen as fairly harsh for such a minor action, but given the number of people I've known to improperly dispose of cigarettes it could be a good lightning-rod for the issue.
 
Posted by Gecko (Member # 8160) on :
 
City on Fire

http://imdb.com/title/tt0093435/
 
Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
 
I saw the huge drapes of smoke when I was driving east on Wilshire yesterday.

If they evacuated the zoo, where did they put all the animals?!
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
quote:
Originally posted by Raventhief:
Um from the article:

"no facts to indicate that this is an arson fire … it could be an accident."

So, not arson?

Well, that depends. If the guy didn't intend to start a fire, but lit any kind of fire, it's still arson, since fires are prohibited up there. If he was lighting a cigarette and accidentally dropped a match and it caught, that's not arson. If he neglectfully dropped a burning cigarette or neglected to properly extinguish a match, that may or may not be arson or another crime, as the DA decides the statutes apply.
Which probably explains why he's being non-cooperative.
quote:
Originally posted by porcelain girl:
If they evacuated the zoo, where did they put all the animals?!

They didn't end up evacuating the animals, just the people. The keepers stayed late in case they had to evacuate the animals, but it never got to that point.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
I saw the huge drapes of smoke when I was driving east on Wilshire yesterday.
We saw the haze as we were passing through Glendale on our way to Pasadena today. [Frown]
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
Hey! Florida's on fire, too! Broward County conditions have been downgraded to "go out and you might choke and die" levels.
 
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
 
Northern Minnesota, too. There's an estimates 27,000 acres on fire, about 40 buildings have burned. They did a controled burn yesterday to try to protect more. Some of the pictures are unbelievable.
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Yeah, but they don't have Dante's View Infernoed.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Now Catalina's on fire. [Frown]

I forget, which season comes after Brushfire? Is it Earthquake or Flood?
 
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
 
[Frown]
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Now Catalina's on fire. [Frown]

I forget, which season comes after Brushfire? Is it Earthquake or Flood?

Earthquake, then Mudslide. [Frown]
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
Rivka, I am bad a judging distance from maps. Is West Hollywood okay?
 
Posted by BaoQingTian (Member # 8775) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Now Catalina's on fire. [Frown]

I forget, which season comes after Brushfire? Is it Earthquake or Flood?

Swarm of locusts? Or is it boils, I forget.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kmbboots:
Rivka, I am bad a judging distance from maps. Is West Hollywood okay?

It was when I was there yesterday. [Wink] (I work in West Hollywood.)

Yeah, it's not really near any of the burn areas. Hmm. At least, the part where I work isn't. The hills might be closer. But I think the Griffith Park fire is fully contained at this point, neh?

quote:
Originally posted by BaoQingTian:
Swarm of locusts? Or is it boils, I forget.

Wrong part of the country.
 
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
 
Are the animals in the LA zoo okay? Or does anyone know yet?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
They're fine. They didn't even end up needing to be evacuated.
 
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
 
The middle of the country has more water than it can handle, and we on the edges are on fire. Maybe we could stick a big pipe in the Missouri and borrow some of that while they don't want it?

Of course, if I were Missouri, I wouldn't trust us to turn it off when the floods stopped.
 
Posted by Ecthalion (Member # 8825) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nighthawk:
Hey! Florida's on fire, too! Broward County conditions have been downgraded to "go out and you might choke and die" levels.

Lots of the southeast is onfire, I-10 and I-75 is so thick you can hardly see in front of you while driving.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Yeah I thought this thread was about the Florida/Georgia fire. Looks like the smoke is choking half the state.

I know that wildfires are a natural part of nature, and some forests even depend on them for seeding, but it's always hard to accept when you see the devastation.
 


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