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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
"log in to"
-OR-
"log into"

Which one do y'all prefer? I've seen it written both ways.

I really should consult the Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, but I don't have my copy with me (I know - bad tech writer) and I'm kind of curious what the consensus may be.
 
Posted by Happy Camper (Member # 5076) on :
 
Not an expert, but my gut instinct tells me it can go either way. Depending on the context, of course. "Log into" something. "Log in to" do something.
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
My personal preference: "Log in to".

Because to me, "Log in" is like one term, one verb, - one word if you will. So I "log in" to Windows, for example.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I have no idea which one I use. They both mean precisely the same thing, so I wouldn't notice somebody switching between the two.
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Log in to, with the same reasoning that JennaDean used.

Googlefight.
 
Posted by striplingrz (Member # 9770) on :
 
I go with Log into... but on a related note, is it Login or Log In?
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
Login is a noun, Log in is a verb. (My login is Uprooted, but I can't log in because I forgot my password.)
 
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uprooted:
My login is Uprooted, but I can't log in because I forgot my password.

::stage whispers::
The password is hAp5n3iL
 
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
 
[Razz]
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
JennaDean's line of reasoning is correct: "log in" is the verb, so it should not combine with the preposition "to."
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Log on

:-P
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I was thinking that too.

"Do you want to play a game?"

And for the record, I support the "Log in to" line of reasoning.
 
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
 
Log in or log in to, not log into for me.
 
Posted by orlox (Member # 2392) on :
 
I use login to or logon to.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/login
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by orlox:
I use login to or logon to.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/login

it's a noun you linked to [Razz]

--
log in to.

break into.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Kama:

Exactly!! Walk into, break into, dive into.

I know - log in is the verb, not log. Still, I'm guessing that this is one area that will continue to shake itself out until it matches the other similiar verb phrases.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by orlox:
I use login to or logon to.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/login

*twinge*

"Have you loggedin yet?"
"No, I'm loggingin right now."
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
tut tut Jon Boy, you're calling yourself a linguist?

it's "loginned" and "loginning"

although to be honest I'm not sure about the double n's
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
*hangs head in shame*
 
Posted by orlox (Member # 2392) on :
 
[Blushing]

I knew I was linking to a noun but thought I could defend myself with the definition in the link but trying to write it out revealed my silliness.
 
Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :
 
I say Login to, but I ain't no English expert.
 
Posted by orlox (Member # 2392) on :
 
I keep trying to google 'nouns used as verbs' but it seems circuitous. [Smile]
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
You guys are funny. [Smile]

I never gave it much thought. "Login" doesn't seem right to me as an action. Whenever I think of logging in to something, I think "Log in". I guess "login" seems as correct as "alot" to me.
[Dont Know]

[ June 28, 2007, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: Nick ]
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
"Login" is a noun. "What's your login?"

"Log in" is an action. "Log into" would be the natural extension of "log in." I'm not a grammar guru, but I know that Log being the verb would preclude it being modified into a noun when it is meant to be the verb in a sentence.

"Login to" would be a poor construction because it would be easily confused with the usage as a noun "whom did you give your login to?"

Although "log in" seems valid and usable in a sentence by itself, "log in to" is analogous to other redundant protractions (if that's the right word here...) ie: "I want to go in to the building," is an awkward version of "I want to go into the building."

To sum up:
Log= verb/noun
Login = noun
Log in = verb
Log into = correct usage


Edit: I think the trouble with this word comes from the usage of "login" as a common noun. Because we pronounce "login" with the foot on the second syllable, it is distinguishable in speech from "log in", which places the emphasis on the second word. Reverse it yet again in speech when you say "log into"- you have a slightly stronger emphasis on the first word and a slightly weakened emphasis on the second word. However, I think this is distinguishable from "Log in to" simple because saying those three words as separate words makes the meter sound awkward. It also produces a somewhat unclear meaning.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I lean toward "log into" as well. As in, "As soon as you log into the network, you can open that folder."

"Log in to" has a different usage. "You log in to get access to the network files."
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/into.html

quote:
I. Into is a preposition. In a sentence, the preposition into will be part of a prepositional phrase consisting of
into + its object + any modifiers of its objects. The entire phrase it is a part of will function adverbially to modify the verb or verb phrase that precedes the phrase.

1. When he walked into the room, he found that the meeting had already started.
2. Put the toys into the basket.
3. The pumpkin was turned into a carriage.

II. In the phrase in to, in is an adverb, directly modifying a verb, and to is a reposition with its own object. When the word into is used in a sentence where in to is meant, the resulting statement can be absurd.

1. She turned her paper in to the teacher.
vs.
2. She turned her paper into the teacher.

In the second sentence, the paper is transformed--poof!--into the teacher. We've all heard the old joke about the magician who was so talented that he could drive down the street and turn into a gas station. Of course, if he just wanted to get gas somewhere, he would turn in to a gas station.

Also, you won't say "log outof", you will say log out of [Wink]
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Good link, Kama.
 
Posted by baduffer (Member # 10469) on :
 
So maybe log on would be simpler?
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
How so? "Log on" is no different from "log in," syntactically speaking.
 
Posted by baduffer (Member # 10469) on :
 
But on to and onto can be used interchangeably more often than in to or into? (grasping for straws)
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
[No No]
 


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