While I am under the impression that getting your own country was compensation, I'm an nonetheless mixed, on one hand I believe that there is a legitimate claim to be looked into here, on the other hand I am worried this is rubbing salt into a wound.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I wonder if, a couple of generations later, people still linked France with Napoleon and conquest like we still often link Germany with Hitler and WWII. Was it harder or easier for France to live down Napoleon's legacy that it has been for Germany to live down Hitler's?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
eeeeh In a way they did, remember France soon had Nappy the Third on the throne.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
On the face of it, this seems silly to me.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
On the face of it, this seems ridiculous to me.
These people have the same problem that some groups of Chinese people have. Somebody is in their debt and they just will not let go.
Why are the Germans of today liable for the mistakes of their parents and grandparents? Some of these people did nothing to support the holocaust.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
This is completely absurd. People who weren't born yet are suing people who weren't involved in the events they're suing over.
You know, I'm pretty sad that my Grandpa had a hard time getting his plumbing installed in his first home. I'm going to sue the state of Montana for the suffering I've had as a result. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I call dibs on suing Missouri and England.
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
quote:Mazor said that thousands of Israelis born to Holocaust survivors "suffer from fears and anxieties because they experience what their parents went through as though it is happening to them."
I have a really hard time swallowing that. I can't see how secondhand psychological trauma—however real it is—is the same as firsthand physical and psychological trauma.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I call dibs on suing Missouri and England.
Jerk, then I'm calling Illinois and France.
Posted by scholar (Member # 9232) on :
While I don't believe they are suffering the same as their parents, I think the trauma is real. Imagine growing up with parents who were that traumatized, having no extended family because they were all brutally murdered. That's got to screw a kid up. If they were suing the people who actually committed the crime, I would think they had a case. But, those people are dead and gone. I hope though that increased publicity might start some groups who will provide counseling for them.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I think they'll get about as far as groups in America calling for slavery reparations have gotten, which is to say, nowhere at all. Which is about where I think they should be. No one should forget what happened, but forcing the sins of the parents on their kids is wrong, and only keeps lingering resentments alive, or causes them to be born anew, to say nothing of simple fairness.
Besides, you'd think suing for pain and suffering would be a can of worms Israel wouldn't want opened.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
We talk about how much parents and parenting shape the lives of children and I'm inclined to believe that the trauma is real. We in America frequently cite past racism is the reason for socioeconomic inequities in many socioeconomic groups.
I don't think, however, that they're entitled to the requested compensation for that suffering.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by scholar: While I don't believe they are suffering the same as their parents, I think the trauma is real. Imagine growing up with parents who were that traumatized, having no extended family because they were all brutally murdered. That's got to screw a kid up. If they were suing the people who actually committed the crime, I would think they had a case. But, those people are dead and gone. I hope though that increased publicity might start some groups who will provide counseling for them.
Agreed on all points.
And Blayne, if Israel is supposed to be reparations, maybe we can get Germany to do something with all those annoying suicide bombers?
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
quote:We talk about how much parents and parenting shape the lives of children and I'm inclined to believe that the trauma is real. We in America frequently cite past racism is the reason for socioeconomic inequities in many socioeconomic groups.
I don't think, however, that they're entitled to the requested compensation for that suffering.
What he said.
--j_k
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
rivka, don't interject thought into his thread, it will throw off his feng shui. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
This is just dumb.
(But then again, so is Blayne's comment about Israel being "reparations" for the Holocaust.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yellow and gray threads have no feng shui.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
It's yellow and white, and it's lovely. Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Actually yellow is the sign of the emperor and white is the sign of death. White pretty much trumps any benefit yellow could grant in terms of Feng Shui.
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