Hatrack River Forum: Help me remember this sci-fi movie...(Also: Can Dag lend a legal opinion?)

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Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Howdy all,

Lately I've been trying to remember the name of a sci-fi I move I saw as kid that involved people searching (or moving?) to a new planet as Earth began to succumb to pollution. The few snippets I remember clearly are these:

- A crewman (cadet?) needs to pay for some food using his hand print, but can't because he has low blood pressure, so another crewman helps out by putting his hand on top of the first crewman's hand on the scanner. (I think they also talk about acid rain in this scene...)

- During their voyage, they find a planet with a violent, degenerate (post-apocalyptic?) society - I think I remember something about flames and stadium risers? [Confused]

- They also encounter a really scary cyborg on a derelict spaceship. (At least, it was really scary to my childhood self.)

I know it's not much to go on - I have no idea how young I was when I saw it. If any of you have any idea what movie (or tv show?) this could be, any illumination would be appreciated!

[ July 26, 2007, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: Wonder Dog ]

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

What you discuss was the unsold pilot for a Disney TV series that later aired on "The Wonderful World of Disney" redited into a movie.

I don't remember the name of it, but I do remember being frustrated...it ended with several loose plot threads.

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Ah ha! That sounds like the ticket! (And it explains why I would have seen it - we watched WWoD every Sunday night for years when I was young... until we cut cable altogether...)

Any ideas on a name so I might be able to glean more info from the interwebs?

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

None at all, sorry.

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Earth*Star Voyager!

Once again, the potent formula of google + Hatrack has prevented the mild discomfort of a few minutes of frustration. [Big Grin]

Thanks, Puffy!

For any interested, wikipedia article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Star_Voyager

Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :

Is that the story where they sent a bunch of kids on the ship to check out a planet on another star?

I loved that story when I was 13. It had a pretty girl. [Smile]

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Yeah, that's the one.

Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :

Good times...

Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :

Might it be here somewhere?

Edit: nevermind, you've already found it.

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Darn it...now I want to watch it again, but I don't think it was ever released for home video or DVD. [Frown]

Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :

Never saw it, but I think these two links are
what you are looking for:

Earth Star Voyager (1)

quote:
The Earth Star Voyager is a spaceship sent to another solar system to prepare it for colonization. Earth itself is horribly polluted, so the mission is vitally important. But as the departing starship gets under way, signs begin to emerge that their mission may unwittingly be part of a larger conspiracy.

And part 2 is here with identical description.

Wikipedia entry here.

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Another unsold WWoD pilot I'd like to see released: Fluppy Dogs.

Now -that- was a weird cartoon.

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Found some fun youTube clips - start here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDRF3i6sZPg

Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :

Oops. Missed the fact that others had found it already.

[Embarrassed]

Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :

quote:
but I don't think it was ever released for home video or DVD

The youtube video said they have it at classics2dvd.com

Posted by brojack17 (Member # 9189) on :

I didn't find it on Blockbuster.com. It sounds good though.

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

There's a link at Disney's listing for the show that lets you express your interest in seeing it released on DVD.

http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/moviefinder/products/Earth%20Star%20Voyager.html

The link is below the "No Image Available" image in the top-left of the page.

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Here's an interesting forum discussion the the topic...

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/science-fiction-fantasy/desperately-help-6269.html

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

quote:
Originally posted by vonk:

quote:
but I don't think it was ever released for home video or DVD
The youtube video said they have it at classics2dvd.com

...which is a blog offering bootleg DVDs. I don't feel right about that sort of thing.

Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :

Ah, I didn't follow the link, just saw it on the video.

Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :

I don't feel bad about bootlegs when it is impossible to buy it legitimately.

Heck, without bootlegs, I would have never been able to experience the Star Wars Holiday Special.

Wait a moment....

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Ah-HA!

Posted by Wonder Dog (Member # 5691) on :

Since the Disney is (presumably) still the copyright holder, does distribution without permission constitute a copyright infringement? (I think it does...even if Disney won't distribute it, legally, it's their "right" not to distribute...)

But you could record the show (under Fair Use) if it aired again... which it probably won't... so we're stuck (legally) until the show airs again or Disney re-releases it.

That's my limited understanding of legalities here.

Dagonee - care to comment on the situation?

Posted by tern (Member # 7429) on :

Per 17 USC 106, Disney has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize distribution of copies of the copyrighted work.

Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :

A copyright holder's failure to keep a work available in print (or digital equivalent) can be a factor in applying the fair use test, usually in educational settings. But, in general, a work going out of print may not be copied/distributed/performed/etc. without violating copyright. When the use is personal entertainment, fair use will seldom apply outside the time- and place-shifting scenarios (I don't count backup/archive as personal entertainment).

Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :

I remember this! Good to know the name now.