Hatrack River Forum: James E Faust Passes Away at 87

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Posted by docmagik (Member # 1131) on :

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695199591,00.html

Realize this doesn't matter to everybody, but I thought some of the LDS hatrackers might care. Faust was one of the three men the Mormon church calls "President."

Faust was a good man--served his mission in Brazil, so that always gave me a bit of a feel of kinship with him.

Not unexpected at all, but he'll be missed.

Thought I'd share.

Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :

He was our most visible democrat, though he didn't go off about it very often. He was a very meek but intelligent trusted servant.

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Oh my. [Frown]

Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :

quote:
state director of the Friendshipping Force

Why does that sound like some kind of league of really cheerful superheroes [Smile]

I loved the story about the letters to his wife.

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Thanks for the link, dogmagik.

Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :

Wow, that's sad. Thanks for letting us know.

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

Heard about this while on vacation on Friday I believe. Faust was a really good man, and definately a visible Democrat.

So does anyone think an apostle will move in to replace him or will they dip down into the lower tiers?

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

As I understand it, the members of the First Presidency come from the Apostles.

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

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Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
As I understand it, the members of the First Presidency come from the Apostles.

I don't believe it HAS to be that way, but traditionally that has been the case.

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

According to Wikipedia, anyone who is a high priest can be a counselor in the first presidency. The last counselor who was not ordained to the office of apostle was Thorpe B. Isaacson, who died in 1970.

Edit: Gah. It won't let me post a link that has parentheses in it. Well, at least this link has some of the same information.

Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :

Yeah...wiki articles are annoying that way.

Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :

Jon Boy - you can use TinyUrl in place of a link that won't work, can't you?

Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :

Yeah, but that takes effort. [Razz]

Okay, fine: link

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

After a cursory consideration, I think Holland will fill the vacancy. I still have no idea who will fill the gap in the quorum of the twelve.

Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :

There are generally actually 15 apostles at any given time, so a new apostle will be called. I also would tend toward thinking a younger member of the quorum will be called in. I guess when President Hincley was younger, he was called as a third counselor. I'm not sure if there were 16 apostles at any point. I know there was a time when two apostles died, more than one conference apart, without one being replaced. If you look in the back of the church history manual, it is possible to track.

Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
After a cursory consideration, I think Holland will fill the vacancy. I still have no idea who will fill the gap in the quorum of the twelve.

Care to make it interesting? [Big Grin]

I expect one of the more seasoned members of the Twelve to be called into the First Presidency, and a new Apostle to be called from the Seventy.

Posted by Cashew (Member # 6023) on :

I think the speculation is pointless, and worse, presumptuous.

Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :

Well, yeah.

Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :

Oh, I think it's more on the level of wondering what letter the last named storm of the season will be. Bednar wasn't a seventy. I think it will definitely be a man, though.

Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :

I'd say that's a pretty safe guess, pooka.

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

Probably a man over the age of 19 as well [Big Grin]

But that's as dangerous as I'm going.

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

I think he'll be a member of the Church, and be fairly financially independent. Most likely he will be married and have grown children.

Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :

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Originally posted by Cashew:
I think the speculation is pointless, and worse, presumptuous.

Really? It may be pointless, but I think it's just human nature, and totally harmless. Now if we start getting bent out of shape because "our guy" isn't picked, that's certainly presumptuous.

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
I think he'll be a member of the Church, and be fairly financially independent. Most likely he will be married and have grown children.

That rules out Brother Joseph it seems [Wink]

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

Well, that and the fact that he's dead...

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
Well, that and the fact that he's dead...

So what they could pick Moses or Elijah?

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

No...

Huh? [Confused]

Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
No...

Huh?

Neither of them are dead. [Smile]

Well actually I have to wonder if they are NOW dead now that the purpose in preserving them alive has been fulfilled.

Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :

Oh. I think they're dead.