I just rewatched X-Men: The Last Stand. I can't say that it's a good movie, because it isn't and I strongly disagree with several choices the director made. I heard an interview with the writers and they strongly asserted that it wasn't their fault. Anyway, I still found it pretty entertaining, if not very stimulating on a deeper level.
To my point. I've been reading "Astonishing X-Men" by Joss Whedon, and there are some similarities between it and the "Last Stand" story. Anybody know if Whedon was involved in the story process?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I don't think so, but IIRC, Joss's knowledge of the franchise primarily comes from the movies, not from having read the comics.
Posted by GForce (Member # 9584) on :
The Whedon comic came out in 2004, 2 years before the movie. In the comic, a cure is developed, and the scientist's name who makes it is Dr. Kavita Rao, who is also in the movie (minor character). Basically the similarities stop there, but I just thought maybe he had been consulted.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Joss has been open that yes, parts of his first arc on Astonishing were "borrowed" for X-3. However, as with most work-for-hire writing, that's where his involvement begins and ends.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I don't think so, but IIRC, Joss's knowledge of the franchise primarily comes from the movies, not from having read the comics.
Joss is on the record as being a huge fan of the original Claremont run. Hence his heavy use of Kitty Pryde and certain other "trademarks" of that era. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Now that I think about it more, I think I read that about whoever it was that started writing Ultimate X-Men.
It just doesn't make any sense for Astonishing X-Men.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
I believe Joss read and enjoyed the X-Men the same years I did, from the beginning of the new X-Men to roughly #170-something. Which is probably why I enjoyed his own run so much. It was like, "That's why I used to read it!"
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
quote:Originally posted by GForce: The Whedon comic came out in 2004, 2 years before the movie. In the comic, a cure is developed, and the scientist's name who makes it is Dr. Kavita Rao, who is also in the movie (minor character). Basically the similarities stop there, but I just thought maybe he had been consulted.
Even the 90s X-men animated series had a brief arc about a supposed cure for mutants. I think it's a fairly obvious story avenue to explore in the X-men universe.
I didn't think X3 was bad, but the way. But then, I'm easily pleased.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris Bridges: Which is probably why I enjoyed his own run so much.
Well, technically his run isn't over -yet-...though sometimes I wish it was. The pseudo-Hellfire Club arc and the current Colossus/Breakworld story seem to be missing the spark and enthusiasm that infused his earlier stories.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
I checked the first issues of Astonishing out alongside of Millar's Return of Magneto in Ultimate. It was interesting to compare the writing style.
Whedon is a superior writer in every way.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I just finished reading the "Unstoppable" TPB, the last one in Whedon's run, and I think this is my favorite 25-issue run of the X-Men ever. Cassaday's art, while not my favorite overall, goes perfectly with Whedon's dialog.
Good story, and probably the best overall use of Kitty Pryde's powers over a consistent run.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
I'm fluffy movie watcher extraordinaire (how do you spell that word?). I enjoy almost everything and I've never read a comic book in my life. I really disliked X-3, for what it's worth.
Didn't I read somewhere that Joss had huge ideas for one of the three X-Men movies that they turned down? I may be confusing this with something else...
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Yeah, his ending was quite good. Once collected, the latter half of his run reads much better as a trade than it did as a serial.
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