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Posted by Fyfe (Member # 937) on :
 
I'm taking a short story class at uni right now, and although I've been writing since I was old enough to dictate, I don't usually do short stories. I am nervous as can be about permitting my class to read this, and I would love to have an objective opinion or two before I go under the knife. As it were.

Thanks! [Smile]

Jenny
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
You can email me a copy through the forums, would you prefer my response within the forum or just by email?
 
Posted by Pam Tyler (Member # 10595) on :
 
Same for me, Fyfe. But you may have to read one of mine someday and give me your opinion.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
You'll probably get more responses if you put it online where everyone can get to it.
 
Posted by Lanfear (Member # 7776) on :
 
I'd love to read it.
email lakerk AT gmail.com
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
quote:
You'll probably get more responses if you put it online where everyone can get to it.
DO NOT DO THIS!

Stick with the emails. Don't throw away the publication rights by posting it here. For heaven's sake.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I don't think he meant to post it all here. More like on a web site with limited access.

However, I have no idea what that would do to those same publication rights..
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kwea:
I don't think he meant to post it all here. More like on a web site with limited access.

However, I have no idea what that would do to those same publication rights..

It wouldn't do anything to publication rights, even if put on a website for all the world to see.
 
Posted by scholar (Member # 9232) on :
 
You can't claim FIRST publication, which is what most publisher's want. The story is yours to sell, just people are less likely to want it.
 
Posted by Ivygirl1937 (Member # 10918) on :
 
Only if you return the favor. [Smile]

JK, I'd be happy to. My short story, however, is in a thread, whereas yours isn't.
 
Posted by Fyfe (Member # 937) on :
 
You're all such lovely people. I've emailed it to you, and if you could reply via email, that'd be better for me. Thanks so, so much.

Jen
 
Posted by Avatar300 (Member # 5108) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MattP:
quote:
Originally posted by Kwea:
I don't think he meant to post it all here. More like on a web site with limited access.

However, I have no idea what that would do to those same publication rights..

It wouldn't do anything to publication rights, even if put on a website for all the world to see.
You've used up both first publication rights and electronic rights.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
quote:
It wouldn't do anything to publication rights, even if put on a website for all the world to see.
Technically speaking, Matt P is correct. However, most editors will not purchase a work that has been posted on the internet for free.

So it winds up being the same thing.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
I've always wondered about publication rights as viewed by publishing houses. AFAIK, most (all?) of them aren't set out by statute, so its just a question of the common law, case law, custom, and contract. It must be a confusing area.
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
quote:
It wouldn't do anything to publication rights, even if put on a website for all the world to see.
That's not true. You would still own the copyright, but some of the specific publication rights would have been used.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TL:
quote:
It wouldn't do anything to publication rights, even if put on a website for all the world to see.
That's not true. You would still own the copyright, but some of the specific publication rights would have been used.
Not necessarily. Putting it online temporarily on a low-traffic, unlinked, personal web site would not necessarily constitute a publishing event.

I'll concede though that if Jenny is planning to (or wants the option to) sell this story, then better safe than sorry. I hadn't considered that possibility and I was thinking more of copyright rights as enforced by law rather than publishing "rights" which are a matter of convention.
 
Posted by enjeeo (Member # 2336) on :
 
Feel free to email it to me if you don't already have enough feedback.

enj
 
Posted by Fyfe (Member # 937) on :
 
Yay. Yay. Thank you. I've sent it.
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
quote:
Not necessarily. Putting it online temporarily on a low-traffic, unlinked, personal web site would not necessarily constitute a publishing event.
And you'll concede, I'm sure, how that scenario is different from the one I was responding to.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TL:
quote:
Not necessarily. Putting it online temporarily on a low-traffic, unlinked, personal web site would not necessarily constitute a publishing event.
And you'll concede, I'm sure, how that scenario is different from the one I was responding to.
I don't think I had proposed anything specific enough to constitute a "scenario."
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
For crying out loud, dude.

quote:
even if put on a website for all the world to see.

 
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
 
Oy. I didn't exactly mean to get it published on CNN. Every public web site is "for all the world to see" but relatively few will be seen by any significant number of people. Most of us would have to go to some effort to get something published on anything BUT a "low-traffic, unlinked, personal web site."
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
Hey, if you're still sending out your story, I'd like to read it. My email is in my profile.
 
Posted by Fyfe (Member # 937) on :
 
Er. Is it? I don't see it...
 


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