Theres been an unusual amount of chatter over the past few weeks about a Serenity sequel, and since there hasnt been a thread I thought I'd start one. Hopefully this wont be another 'lets get our hopes up only to have them ripped to pieces by corporate idiots'.
Firstly, Universal, who own the rights to Firefly movies "Are asking opinions, responding to users, posting Fireflyphoto galleries, and otherwise supporting the firefly forums on their site in what appears to be an attempt by the studio to gage the viability of possibly funding another Firefly or Serenity project."
This this appeared today. By itself it doesnt seem like much evidence but people have been noticing other things too.
It all started last month when Joss said the sales figures for the Collectors Edition DVD were the only hope for a sequel. Now its two months later and Joss hasnt said anything. It seems a bit strange to me that someone who is so closly connected to the fans, and posts reularly on sites wouldnt say anything about the sales. Especially when he knows that we want news desperately.
The way I see it is, ordinarily Joss would have thanked the fans by now as the CE far exceeded sales expectations. Universal had until the end of September to buy the rights to a sequal, and if they did they wont make an announcement until they have the details finalised. This could explain Joss' curious silence. If Universal are making arrangements for another movie then Joss couldnt talk about it. If he did comment on the sales he'd open up a door to a lot of fan questions that he wouldnt be allowed to answer.
We got Serenity because we never gave up. It can happen again.
Posted by Javert Hugo (Member # 3980) on :
That would be nice.
I bought the latest edition. I've done my part.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Oh, crap, I didn't ever buy it. I meant to. When did it go on sale? I guess my media bubble works too well.
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
Not again, no not again.....
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
The linked article makes a good point - why would Alan Tudyk know anything about this?
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Carrie - flashbacks?
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Es posible, I'spose.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
All the actors were signed for a three-picture deal, soon-to-be-dead or not.
Me, I want to see a Book-centric movie. Flashbacks are fine.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Yes, by all means, answer questions about Book!
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I'd rather they didn't spell it out. They hinted heavily enough at the nature of Book's past that I feel no need to delve into the details.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Doing Book's past I think only would have mattered if Book were still alive. Either that, or the surviving members in some way would have to deal with Book's legacy, so they could pencil him in with flashbacks, but that leaves Wash in the dust.
Honestly I'd be surprised if I saw this in theater. No Wash? No Book? Flashbacks aren't good enough for me, it won't have the same magic. I'll rent it.
Edit to add: I think it would play havoc with continuity, but I'd probably go see a prequel of sorts that had the full cast in it.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
You morons are ignoring the easiest way we can get a sequel with the whole cast, minus prequel/flashback nonsense.
Zombies. Duh.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Or if they discover some sort of genesis device.
TBH: If the movie suddenly just had the whole cast and they didn't even address why Wash and Book are still alive, I'd still watch it, and enjoy it. I'm perfectly happy pretending the first movie was not to be taken literally so I could see another movie.
Though with the terra forming technology in the firefly universe perhaps there are biological applications that could bring the dead back to life.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: TBH: If the movie suddenly just had the whole cast and they didn't even address why Wash and Book are still alive, I'd still watch it, and enjoy it. I'm perfectly happy pretending the first movie was not to be taken literally so I could see another movie.
Though with the terra forming technology in the firefly universe perhaps there are biological applications that could bring the dead back to life.
Shut up. Zombies. Zombies. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Who is that guy in the Serenity ad at the bottom of the screen supposed to be?
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
Mine is showing a tank, Noemon, labeled Firefly.
I still think they should do smaller, episodes in the Firefly universe, in between, before or after the show and movie. I think it would be easier to avoid massive incongruities, and would be awesome.
And erosomniac, they sorta already had zombies. I'd prefer robots. Evil, heat-ray wielding robots, with the brains of Book and Wash in fragile glass tanks of sloshing, green liquid. Oh yeah.
Posted by Javert Hugo (Member # 3980) on :
*squints* A mutated Dalek, I think.
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
--Enigmatic
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: TBH: If the movie suddenly just had the whole cast and they didn't even address why Wash and Book are still alive, I'd still watch it, and enjoy it. I'm perfectly happy pretending the first movie was not to be taken literally so I could see another movie.
Though with the terra forming technology in the firefly universe perhaps there are biological applications that could bring the dead back to life.
Shut up. Zombies. Zombies.
No you shut up! Zombies are slow, cumbersome, and can die with a single bullet to the head. TOO FRAGILE!
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I say Zoe has a baby with Alan Tudyk's head CGI'd. Maybe twins, and the other one looks (by coincidence and nothing more) like Book.
Slightly less facetious ideas:
Maybe there's some mystery that involves watching a lot of wave cards trying to unravel clues that had to do with Book, or Wash, and then the other lives on in dream sequences. Maybe there's some kind of thing River has that puts her in contact with the dead.
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: Shut up. Zombies. Zombies.
No you shut up! Zombies are slow, cumbersome, and can die with a single bullet to the head. TOO FRAGILE!
Racist.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
They need to obtain some whales for something, and pre-Reaver Miranda was the only planet to which whales were successfully introduced. So they fly counter-clockwise around one of the (apparently) many suns in the system...
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Anything that gets all those sexy ladies back on the screen and I'm all for it. I don't care if it's all a dream sequence in River's crazy head.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: You morons are ignoring the easiest way we can get a sequel with the whole cast, minus prequel/flashback nonsense.
Zombies. Duh.
holy crap, that's the best idea i have ever heard
let this man write it. Now.
Posted by Damien.m (Member # 8462) on :
JW originally planned a trilogy. He didnt know that there wasnt gonna be a second and third until the first one tanked at the box office. Which means he killed Wash and Book while thinking there was gonna be two more movies.
Knowing him Id be willing to bet that he has a perfectly reasonable explanation for their return. He probably planned it from the start.
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
Damien, I never heard that before. Do you have a link?
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: Shut up. Zombies. Zombies.
No you shut up! Zombies are slow, cumbersome, and can die with a single bullet to the head. TOO FRAGILE!
Racist.
Necrophiliac.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
I would love them to do well, anything. I always figured wash left Zoe with a bun in the oven because it would just be unfair if he hadn't.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Not having her have to raise his child without his help is unfair?
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: Racist.
Necrophiliac.
Pervert.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Not having her have to raise his child without his help is unfair?
Can you please put some more negatives into that sentence? Pretty please?
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Considering her views on the matter (having kids), and how awesome a little Washling would be, I agree that she'd have wanted a kid even if Wash died.
In fact, I fully expect that in Firefly: The Later Years, which will take place a hundred years later, Alan Tudyk will play his own great grandson, in blackface.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Ew.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
It's well within the realm of possibility for a grandchild of Tudyk and Torres to have coloration such that Tudyk could play him, especially if dyed his hair.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
I used to believe that a show being canceled meant that it had no hope of returning, but since the whole Jericho issue, I can still have hope.
Posted by Damien.m (Member # 8462) on :
White Whale, Id heard it on a few sites so just presumed it was true. I went to look for a quote from Joss about a trilogy and this is what I found:
quote: AVC: Do you intend it as a stand-alone project, or a new franchise?
JW: Yes. Yes, it has the potential to be the f-word, franchise. That can sometimes kill you, because when people start seeing that, sometimes they stop seeing the movie. It killed me with Serenity, because everybody was left with a bad taste in their mouth. We kind of failed. The movie did not make scads, at the box office, it barely broke even. But it made oodles of money on DVD, it's doing just fine. But everyone was like, "Wow, we didn't get to make the trilogy." There was never a trilogy! In this sense, this movie is very much a journey. It's not just a classic superhero movie—set up a premise, and here are some cool people, here are the rules, and let's go. It's very much this woman's journey, and it's a very painful, strange, hellish journey. I have to concentrate on that, not the fact that there may be dolls. But, unfortunately, once the word "franchise" comes up, people look at the structure of the script you've given them differently. That's just going to happen. The word "franchise" has almost killed my career. If people don't stop using it, I'm going to get very twitchy.
AVC: So were all the claims that there were two more Serenity movies planned just false rumors?
JW: People were like, [French accent.] "Eet's a three-picture deal." I was doing a lot of press in Europe. I was like, "No, it's a picture deal." And then, you know, [French accent.] "How do you feel about ze French?" I was like, "Guys, nobody's gone to see the movie yet. We haven't finished making it. Stop calling it a franchise." Almost every question was about, "Are there plans for more?" I get that it came from a TV series, so it already sort of had a built-in fan base that made it feel like a franchise. I understand why I was plagued with the question, but it really did turn into a plague. The fans themselves went to the theatre, saw the movie, and were like, "Oh, I guess he isn't going to get to make any more, the theater wasn't that full." But the movie, we made the movie. Believe me, I will take my rage about the death of Firefly to the grave, but we still pulled off something kind of miraculous. It got buried by the franchise concept. That is not to say that if somebody said, "Hey, you want to do another one of those?" I wouldn't jump on it in a heartbeat, because I would. But it does sort of tend to overwhelm everything else.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Considering her views on the matter (having kids), and how awesome a little Washling would be, I agree that she'd have wanted a kid even if Wash died.
Yep. If the man you love has to die, it's nice if he can pass on the old genes before he goes.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Oooh! I know. The spirits of Book and Wash come back to guide the remaining crew of the Serenity! River needs someone to show her how to use The Force.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
If that was going to happen, they should have ended the first movie like this.
Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
Thank you, Damien.
I had always just assumed that the movie was going to be the end, and had never considered that anyone was considering more.
I also must admit that I've slacked off in my Browncoat duties as of late, not keeping up on the interviews and rumors.
I must learn to never give up hope.
Posted by The Reader (Member # 3636) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Not having her have to raise his child without his help is unfair?
It's not as if Wash planned to die, and Zoe wasn't in any less danger than he was.
I am assuming that you are saying that it would be unfair for Wash to die and leave Zoe pregnant. Your sentence has enough double negatives to tongue-tie an auctioneer.
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