My daughter and I were at Costco today and got a hot dog. They advertise them as Hebrew National Kosher dogs. In the car she asked me if they are still kosher when they are prepared/fixed next to the area where the pizzas are made with all their variety of meat and cheese toppings. I told her I had no idea and thought I'd ask here. Hatrack knows all Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I'm almost certain that a Costco hot dog cart does not constitute kosher preparation.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Kosher-certified food is not kosher unless it is stored (once open) and prepared under kosher conditions-- which the Costco kitchen does not constitute.
And many (most? all?) Orthodox Jews don't recognize Hebrew National as kosher anyway because it's not glatt kosher.
Some Conservative Jews might still eat it.
Not that I'm an expert, but I've picked a bit up eating with Rivka. Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Well thats what I figured but I wanted to make sure I gave her correct information!
LOL aspectre - I don't think I really want to know what they put in them!
Posted by Katarain (Member # 6659) on :
Off topic, but I love Hebrew National hot dogs. They're the only ones I'll eat.
Yummy! Maybe we should have them tonight...
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Many Jews who keep kosher don't consider the Hebrew National brand to be up to stringent standards, and therefore will not eat them.
Even if they were a strictly kosher brand, however, that kosher status would only hold if they were prepared on kosher equipment, which I'm pretty sure the Costco snack bar doesn't have.
So, short answer -- not kosher.
Posted by Valentine014 (Member # 5981) on :
While they claim it's technically kosher, this seems so wrong.
(yes, I know it's Shabbos, and realize an authority on the subject will not respond until tomorrow night)
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, if it's not made with pork, just artificial flavors, why couldn't it be kosher?
Bacon Salt, for instance, has some kind of kosher certification and is working on becoming OU certified (a much longer process, apparently.)
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I was shocked when I found out that not all kosher pickles are kosher. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
All kosher pickles are kosher, just not all pickles with kosher in the NAME are kosher.
Yes, folks, it's true, "kosher dill" just means it has garlic in it.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
LOL kq, okay. I just was shocked that it can say "Kosher Dill" on the label, and not be kosher. All this time I thought I was eating kosher pickles and they were unkosher? I felt betrayed.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
"Kosher" means that it contains no forbidden ingredients and that it is prepared with equipment that is not used for non-kosher stuff. Oh, and there are a few special rules about the preparation, as well.
There are foods that seem for all the world that they ought to be kosher -- say, matzah ball soup -- that are not, because they do not meet the requirements, and others that seem unlikely -- ham soda (unlikely in so many ways) -- that are. The best assurance that something is a bona fide kosher product is kosher certification -- that is, an independent group with expertise in such things comes in to examine ingredients, equipment, preparation, and puts its seal of approval on the product. There are national and international groups that certify commercial products with wide distribution, regional ones, and local, community-based ones that may certify, say, a local restaurant.
Ham soda, huh? I wonder what it tastes like? Sweet? Salty? Meaty? Unappealing? Yeah, I'm guessing all four.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
While they claim it's technically kosher, this seems so wrong.
(yes, I know it's Shabbos, and realize an authority on the subject will not respond until tomorrow night)
I like Bac-Os. And "It's Not Shrimp", which is a fake shrimp made, I believe, of Alaskan pollack. I've heard rabbis say that God has made enough things forbidden that it's kind of ridiculous for us to add to it for no reason.
Then again, I know a lot of people who won't eat mock treyf. Their loss.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: There are foods that seem for all the world that they ought to be kosher -- say, matzah ball soup -- that are not, because they do not meet the requirements, and others that seem unlikely -- ham soda (unlikely in so many ways) -- that are.
What irks me the most is the non-dairy creamers that are OU-D. That's just so dumb.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
There are OU-D margarines, too, I believe.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Then again, I know a lot of people who won't eat mock treyf. Their loss.
I know how you feel. There are Mormons who don't drink virgin margaritas, or other non-alcoholic versions of alcoholic drinks, either. I can understand their reasoning, but I don't happen to feel that way. More for me!
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Although I can understand them avoiding Postum. Man, that stuff is nasty!
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Strangely, some of the same ones who won't drink virgin margaritas drink Postum. But not all.
I don't know why anyone drinks Postum. Ick.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
But I thought that Mormons weren't supposed to drink coffee because it is a hot beverage?
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
I'm pretty sure they avoid it even after it's cooled off, too.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: There are OU-D margarines, too, I believe.
Most of them, actually. It's irksome.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Actually, "hot drinks" has been interpreted as "coffee and tea." So we don't drink, eat, or otherwise consume coffee, tea (from the tea plant), or anything that has them in them, hot, cold, or otherwise, unless there is a medical reason and it is prescribed or advised by a doctor or other medical professional.
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
Gimme a good virgin pina colada any day Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Since I'm not a big fan of coconut, not for me. But I adore a virgin strawberry margarita. Mmmmm.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
JenniK gets one every time we eat out. She doesn't like it non-virgin.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
Not mormon, but at a 4-H conference I was at it took us twenty minutes to convince the adults we could make virgin maragritas for the state fair board. Eventually we called it "frozen limeade" It went with our group's theme for the cookout as 4-H Fiesta, we also made salsa, grilled corn, and three types of fajitas.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Good grief, 20 minutes and a name change?
When my mom had a hard day at work and we were having burritos for dinner (a standby at our house-- pull out some cheese, shred some lettuce, microwave some refried beans, heat some tortillas, and put out a jar of salsa-- so we ate it a lot) she would make herself a margarita or a tequila sunrise and make us the virgin version (if we behaved ourselves!)
I've ordered my three-year-old a virgin strawberry margarita, she loved it and the waitress didn't bat an eye!
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
I think our theme got us second place, so we were happy. Especially for going way under the price budget even after splurging on the frozen margarita mix. The winners did South Beach Fair. I don't remember what they served, but we all had to do it all on a grill and under $100 for 25 people.
I'd always have a virgin long island iced tea at one of my mom's friends houses. Coke with sour mix. Lots of fun.
Posted by miamiandy (Member # 8906) on :
There are many different degrees of being kosher. Some Jews keep whats better known as kosher style. Namely the no meant and cheese and no pork, seafood, etc. Some only eat kosher meat. And more religious style some only eat food cooked with Kosher utensils that are used only for meat.
Posted by miamiandy (Member # 8906) on :
There are many different degrees of being kosher. Some Jews keep whats better known as kosher style. Namely the no meant and cheese and no pork, seafood, etc. Some only eat kosher meat. And more religious style some only eat food cooked with Kosher utensils that are used only for meat.
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
What exactly is Postum? I always wondered.
Einstein Bagels aren't kosher. I asked the first time I ever went into one and the girl gave me a blank stare and said she'd ask her manager. I told her that if she had to ask, it meant they're not. She wasn't convinced and asked anyway and he confirmed my assessment. She also asked him what kosher is and he told her that it's food that's been blessed by a rabbi. She went on to ask why they just don't have a rabbi come in to bless the bagels and another girl ended up helping me before I could hear the answer.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I like Postum but I have gotten a cold the day after having it more than once. I guess it's possible the jar is infected, since I don't necessarily boil it... Boy I feel dumb now.
Do I dare try it? I really like it.
If you like caramel and toasted things, then Postum might be something that appeals to you.
I still remember fondly the home-made postum ice cream I made a couple of years ago. I guess when I was a rebellious teenager I had coffee ice cream a couple of times.
There's an oft quoted scripture that people sometimes aim at postum, virgin mixed drinks, and por-wine cheese that says "Avoid even the appearance of evil" or something like that. Well, I'm tasting the evil more than looking at it's appearance. Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I think every single one of you who does this whole "I don't eat X because of blah blah blah" is an incredibly dumb person and you're all missing out. There's nothing like kicking down a couple of harvey wallbangers with some red bull and white chocolate mocha and then having some pork-fried human baby.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: There's nothing like kicking down a couple of harvey wallbangers with some red bull and white chocolate mocha and then having some pork-fried human baby.
Ewww . . .white chocolate mocha? I prefer the dark. Posted by porcelain girl (Member # 1080) on :
Did you know there are kosher Subways, now? Heard a piece about it on NPR. The ones that opened are doing really, really well.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
It's infuriating. They're opening one in Pittsburgh, but not in Chicago.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yeah, we went out to dinner with Rivka a few weeks ago and they had just opened the new kosher Subway. It was very crowded both times we walked by it.
Posted by Artemisia Tridentata (Member # 8746) on :
quote:Although I can understand them avoiding Postum. Man, that stuff is nasty!
Hey! You're knocking my ultimate comfort drink. What do you have aganst burnt barley? Oh well, I guess it is an acquired taste. But then so is Beethoven.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote: Oh well, I guess it is an acquired taste. But then so is Beethoven.
Beethoven is not an aquired taste!! Anyone who does not like Beethoven in utero, is suffering from a serious moral defect. The fact that some are able, later in life, to repent from this sin does not make Beethoven an aquired taste. They have been miraculously returned to a state of Justice through the grace of the gods of beauty.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I'm just disturbed that you people are drinking Beethoven.
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
We have a Domino's pizza here in town that is Kosher. They basically have two kitchens for preparing the pizzas. Dh says they do fairly well especially since they are located right around the corner from the Jewish center.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
There is a kosher Dunkin' Donuts, a kosher Baskin Robbins Ice Cream Shop and a kosher Carvel Ice Cream shop in my town. So, we're pretty much set for dessert.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
We have a kosher Dunkin Donuts/Baskin Robbins. We used to have two kosher Dunkin Donuts, but the one in Skokie got caught cheating for the last time.
Wendy, where are you? The idea of kosher Dominos... yum!
What I really miss, though, is the KFC and Burger King(s) in Jerusalem. I used to get the Rodeo Whopper at BK, even though it wasn't on the menu. It's a Whopper with onion rings and BBQ sauce. They had this great fake ice cream cone you could get, too.
I remember once, I ordered my meal with a cone, and I put it down next to me while I ate. The cone had a flat bottom, obviously. Anyway, it was blistering hot, and when I finished my burger and went for the cone, the softserve hadn't even blurred, let alone melted down. It looked like it'd just come out of the machine. That's what I call "better living through chemistry".
I was at the BK in the middle of Jerusalem once when this backpacking tourist guy came in and ordered a cheeseburger. It was a riot listening to the girl behind the counter try and explain to him why there was no such thing.
Posted by Tatiana (Member # 6776) on :
I gave up coffee and even hot tea with milk and sugar for my religion, but thank goodness I didn't have to give up cheeseburgers.... at least during the winter. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: Yeah, we went out to dinner with Rivka a few weeks ago and they had just opened the new kosher Subway. It was very crowded both times we walked by it.
You know I still haven't actually managed to eat there (even takeout)? I keep planning to, and it keeps not working out.
Eventually.
Posted by scholar (Member # 9232) on :
The add for me on this page right now is Jones Chanukay sodas.
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