So yesterday, we were looking through this magazine the museum sent us, and Havah was reading off the Omnimax flicks they're going to be doing special for members. When she got to the one on Lewis and Clark, Tova corrected her:
"It's Lois and Clark."
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Aw.
I hope one day when I have kids they're all geeks. There should be a Tolkien for kids book so I can brainwash them early on.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
So. Freakin'. Awesome.
Although shouldn't she know who Lewis and Clark are by now? (I totally agree with her, though; Lois and Clark > a movie about Lewis and Clark.)
Posted by krynn (Member # 524) on :
thats cute. how old is your child?
Posted by BlueWizard (Member # 9389) on :
Well, I alway thought there was something odd about that Superman guy, so maybe it really is Lewis and Clark.
Geeks rule; well they don't rule middle or high school, but after that, they pretty much rule the world, at least the important parts of it.
Steve/BlueWizard
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: So. Freakin'. Awesome.
Although shouldn't she know who Lewis and Clark are by now? (I totally agree with her, though; Lois and Clark > a movie about Lewis and Clark.)
Well, she sort of does know now. We explained it to her. But she's only 7.5.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlueWizard: Well, I alway thought there was something odd about that Superman guy, so maybe it really is Lewis and Clark.
Actually, while Havah was cracking up, I whispered to her that that must be the gay version. Tova didn't hear.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Key to raising a geek-kid: get them off Superman, and induct them into the superior awesomeness that is Batman.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I disagree, Superman will teach them good morals.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Yes and no. We're working our way through the two volumes of Supergirl archives. Superman's obnoxious "You aren't ready for prime time, and can't let yourself be adopted" garbage is really starting to get on my nerves. Especially with one fake-adoption story after the next.
She loves Supergirl. So did I when I was her age. I haven't let her know that they killed Kara off in the 80s yet. Too hard to explain, and I'm probably not entirely over the trauma myself.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lisa:
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: So. Freakin'. Awesome.
Although shouldn't she know who Lewis and Clark are by now? (I totally agree with her, though; Lois and Clark > a movie about Lewis and Clark.)
Well, she sort of does know now. We explained it to her. But she's only 7.5.
What has happened to history in the schools?
We read about Lewis and Clark in first grade...
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
At 7, she probably just started first grade. Cut her some slack. Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
She's in second grade.
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
I stand corrected.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I didn't read about Lewis and Clark until I as in 8th grade. I had a general idea of who they were, because whenever I hear something that I don't know I need to look it up or ask someone, but I didn't learn about it in school until then.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Whether or not Lewis and Clark is common knowledge depends entirely on the curriculum. Honestly, it's good to know, but it isn't up there with, say, gravity and democracy and plate tectonics and other things that affect everyone. If you don't live in the West, Lewis and Clark is much less important as a part of your own history. If you live East of the Mississippi, knowing about the Iraquois nations and the Trail of Tears would be more important.
It's like expecting seven year olds to know about the Battle of San Jacinto and that Texas was an independent nation. If you're in Texas, you'd better know that, at least a little. If you live in Canada or Virginia, maybe not so important.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I'm 21 and all I know about Lewis and Clark is that "they're explorers, right?"
Right!
Yeah, it's not really on the curriculum in Canada.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
But I'd assume you learned about the explorers who explored Canada, right?
Katie, good point about me being in the West and her not.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
I'd never heard of him until National Geographic ran an article about him quite a few years back. Typical US ignorance of our northern neighbors -- this guy was amazing!
And that was a great cute kid story, Lisa.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Lewis and Clark--unreasonably lucky to come back alive. Of course, lots of American men back in the day were unreasonably lucky to survive the dangerous things they did.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Uprooted, I know about him!
As a folkie, I am a big fan of Stan Rogers. After hearing Northwest Passage as a 12-year-old, I did a lot of reading on him and other explorers of Canada. Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Aw.
I hope one day when I have kids they're all geeks. There should be a Tolkien for kids book so I can brainwash them early on.
It's called "The Hobbit".
g Geek kids rule!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
"It's like expecting seven year olds to know about the Battle of San Jacinto "
Battle of Whatsits? Never heard of it. I prefer Steve Rogers over Stan Rogers.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
wandering off to learn more about Stan Rogers . . .
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
I'd consider a 7 year old who was familiar with Lewis and Clark far geeker than one familiar with a mid-nineties TV series.
And I'd like to point out that I won the Hatrack battle of the geeks (years back).
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: Uprooted, I know about him!
As a folkie, I am a big fan of Stan Rogers. After hearing Northwest Passage as a 12-year-old, I did a lot of reading on him and other explorers of Canada.
Stan Rogers totally rocks. Such a pity he died so young.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Rabbit: I'd consider a 7 year old who was familiar with Lewis and Clark far geeker than one familiar with a mid-nineties TV series.
Okay, so I was a geek. Or perhaps "nerd" is a better word, I don't know. I intend my daughter to know of both and get the pun by the time she is 7.
And yes, Stan Rogers was teh awesome, and it's totally sad his life was cut so short.
I have now had "Northwest Passage" running through my head for the past 3 hours.
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
Does anybody know if, when the Superman comics first came out, the names Lois Lane and Clark Kent were deliberately chosen to allude to Lewis and Clark?
Posted by Selran (Member # 9918) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega M.: Does anybody know if, when the Superman comics first came out, the names Lois Lane and Clark Kent were deliberately chosen to allude to Lewis and Clark?
Superman first appeared in June 1938 in Action Comics #1.
Posted by breyerchic04 (Member # 6423) on :
which means what Selran?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I think he's being Ask.com. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
:: laugh ::
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by breyerchic04: which means what Selran?
I also misread the original question as "does anyone know when the first Superman comics came out?"
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
My daughter plays with authentic She-Ra paper dolls.
That's kind of random, I know. But I love having geeky kids. I don't know how I would relate to them otherwise. My son has recently begun having an interest in football, though. I have to take him with me to my adult friends' houses to let him watch football with them, because I couldn't care less about it. I guess that's what happens when you move to DFW; you get a Cowboys fan.
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
I had heard of Lewis and Clark when I was a kid- but I always thought they were talking about Superman. Living in middle Tennessee- you tend to learn more about say- Cherokee Indians and the Trail of Tears, and the Civil War.
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
(I totally agree with her, though; Lois and Clark > a movie about Lewis and Clark.) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)