So... honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this. The Rock is going to play Black Adam. I guess it depends on who they get to be the Big Red Cheese. He has to be at least as big as Adam, no?
(Heh. I accidentally posted this on the other side at first. Bad brain day.)
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Some Hebrew scholars say that Adam can be translated as "Red man." So maybe the first human was an Amerind. But black?
Now if you bring evolution theory into the picture, and start saying that the first human was black, what are you implying? That all modern humans evolved FROM a black man--which in turn implies that blacks are the most primitive form of humans? See, you go in that direction for the sake of being PC, and you wind up being wildly un-PC. It would be better not to go there at all.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
Despite the lack of a smiley, I'm going to assume you're joking.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Not everyone is aware of the Marvel Family characters these days, alas. They were once the best-selling super-hero comic in America.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
If you knew anything about evolutionary theory, Ron, you'd know that it isn't directed. There's nothing evolutionarily more primitive about the first man in comparison to any other man who has ever or will ever exist.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
On the real subject of the thread, I'm sadly not terribly familiar with the Marvel family . . . of course, I've read most everything of Miracle Man, so I know pretty much who's being talked about .
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
This is actually a really amusing thread.
Posted by JoeH (Member # 5958) on :
I think he'd make a great Black Adam. And I agree they somebody comparable to play the Big Red Cheese.
Posted by Alcon (Member # 6645) on :
I don't have a clue who Black Adam is... but in answer to Ron, the first humans probably did evolve in Africa (last I checked, someone correct me if the thought has changed), and therefor were probably black. But the black skin is merely a reaction to the environment. In Africa it protects from the sun. Up north it isn't needed and so gradually faded out when people migrated. White skin isn't any more evolutionarily advanced than black skin or vica versa. They're just reactions to different climates.
Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
Alcon, I have yet to see an Ethiopian turn white, even if he grows up in Finland.
Lisa, for you: <--Adam
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Skin color isn't an individual's reaction to the environment, it is a population reaction to the environment.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: Some Hebrew scholars say that Adam can be translated as "Red man." So maybe the first human was an Amerind. But black?
No Hebrew scholar worth a darn says such a thing. Yes, the word adamah is etymologically related to the Hebrew word adom, meaning "red" (possibly indicating reddish clay in the dirt). And yes, Adam's name comes from adamah, meaning "earth" or "dirt". But it's ludicrous to take that double connection and infer from it that Adam meant anything having to do with the color red.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Teshi: This is actually a really amusing thread.
In a very, very sad way.
For those who don't know (and care, and don't want to hit Wikipedia, which I'm sure has an article on him), Black Adam was Captain Marvel's opposite number. The wizard Shazam's first attempt at creating a hero. He was a guy named Teth Adam, who lived back in Pharonic Egypt (originally -- later on, the origin was messed with in one of the interminable DC reboots). Adam got tyrannical and killed the Pharaoh to take his throne. Shazam exiled him out into space, like light years away. It took him thousands of years to come back, but he made it back while Captain Marvel was around (what a coinkidink). He was defeated when he was tricked into saying "Shazam", which turned him back into Teth Adam, who crumbled into dust, being that he was thousands of years old.
I don't actually know how he got brought back, but he did.
More here Posted by Ron Lambert (Member # 2872) on :
So when are we going to see a supergirl named Lillith?
Lisa, would you concede that Adam had a "ruddy look of youth"? (See 1 Sam. 17:42.) Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
quote:Originally posted by Alcon: Up north it isn't needed and so gradually faded out when people migrated.
Rather than fading out because it wasn't needed, darker skin was actually selected against due to vitamin D absorption needs. There's less sunlight farther away from the equator, and people with lighter skin need less time out in the sun than people with darker skin in order to absorb the same amount of vitamin D.
Posted by Lisa (Member # 8384) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ron Lambert: So when are we going to see a supergirl named Lillith?
Lisa, would you concede that Adam had a "ruddy look of youth"? (See 1 Sam. 17:42.)
No, Ron, I would not. Are you confusing David and Adam?
Apples are red. Tomatoes are red. Reddish earth is red. Red jelly beans are, as you might suspect, red. This does not mean that red jelly beans taste like apples, nor that they are a part of the nightshade family, like tomatoes. Nor does it mean that Adam had anything in common with any of the above. Except for reddish earth, and that only because it says so explicitly.
Sheesh.
Not to mention the fact that it's I Samuel 16:12, and it says he's reddish (ruddy is an okay translation), but nothing whatsoever about "look of youth". That's an extremely creative paraphrase.
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