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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I've been invited to join an ongoing local D&D (I haveth impressed the DM with my lore of all things Fantasy related [Smile] over a game of chess ) ut there's a problem.

While he gave me his email to contact him he hasn't contacted me back, or logged onto MSN. I can't go to roleplay if I don't know ehre he lives!

:EDIT:

Yay he logged on!

Alright wish me luck, this is an important step in a mans journey. The moment when he finally gets to toss the dice for real in an epic adventure.

Okay, now for the part that concerns Hatrack, what are the standard rules of etiquet for being part of a D&D campaign. Any tips, helps, clues, pointers, and pewters?
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
It's always best to boss the others in your party right off the bat. Most D&D players crave leadership and will accept whoever makes the first bid for the reins. Also remember to isolate yourself from the others as it's impossible to make crucial decisions if you are tied down by alliances and mere feelings. I'll have more advice later.
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
Bring snacks. Don't wear a costume (unless it's one of those kind of games, and then good luck).

Don't forget to bring all the dice, pencils, scratch paper, character sheets, rule books, and miniatures you might need.
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
Think sneaky. Think hidden treasure. Think hidden danger/ambushes.

Most dungeons in this game are equipped with some of the following: trapdoors, false doors, priest holes, fake stairs, changing gravity, arcane scribblings, bizarre clues, inviting pools, acid baths, etc. all liberally stocked with treasure and/or monsters. If you come to a dead end there is often a hidden way to move on, just like in many video games.

When the dungeon master is describing various features, he may give away clues with his body language or facial expressions. Is he forcing casualness when he mentions the red door? There could be a nice magical weapon there, or some demon. Be prepared for either.

Blackblade is joking. His advice is a sure way to get fragged before you even get warmed up.

If you're generating a character on the spot, try to complement or offset the skills of the others in the party. If they are heavy on warriors, try magician or thief. If they're good with warriors, magicians and thieves, try priest. Also balance your charactor's equipment--ask around for what you need and what is already plentiful in the group.

Teamwork is the way to succeed in the game. A thief spots a trapdoor which hides a chest with his nightvision. A magic user casts a detect traps spell. A warrior smashes the chest open . The priest heals the warrior from the poison that wasn't detected. Everybody's characters' skills will come into play somewhere.

Also, many dungeon masters give a you a goal or quest. Make sure your team works towards that and doesn't get bogged down.

Have fun Blayne!

[ November 24, 2007, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: Morbo ]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Definately, my usual plan is to make either a warrior-mink type dragonborn of Bahamut or a drow/elf wizard which Is tyle after the Doctor, that has been my plan of action in NWN2, ill try and see how it goes with this group.

Dragonborn because in a non DragonLance setting its closest to being a Draconian.
 
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
 
I've played a few times, and although I think the rules aren't defined well enough for me to grasp the game, I felt it was best to go in with the expectation to have fun, and to not take things too seriously.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Do NOT attempt to make a "unique" character, one that is so distinctive or weird or powerful or possessed of personality quirks that he tries to claim all the spotlight for himself. You want to be a team player, not a superstar.

This means no 7' albino elves with wild animal sidekicks and a tortured backstory involving a lost princess.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Do NOT attempt to make a "unique" character, one that is so distinctive or weird or powerful or possessed of personality quirks that he tries to claim all the spotlight for himself. You want to be a team player, not a superstar.

This means no 7' albino elves with wild animal sidekicks and a tortured backstory involving a lost princess.

Of course this is true, but don't be afraid to add one at the most two eccentricities to your character, so long as those eccentricities are kinda quirky but nothing that's threatening or obnoxious. One of my friends is on a campaign as a dwarven druid who was abandoned as a baby and raised by an order of druids. His last name was Stetson so whenever they kill animals for food or whatnot he typically skins the animals and while they are traveling crafts hats and gives them to people.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I wouldn't even try to do THAT until you've got a feel for the group you're playing with. I know lots of groups that would find that attempt at humor to be really grating.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
I wouldn't even try to do THAT until you've got a feel for the group you're playing with. I know lots of groups that would find that attempt at humor to be really grating.

Oh I could certainly see that, but then again would it be fun playing with THOSE sorts of people? Angry nerds are none to fun to be with IMO.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Do NOT attempt to make a "unique" character, one that is so distinctive or weird or powerful or possessed of personality quirks that he tries to claim all the spotlight for himself. You want to be a team player, not a superstar.

This means no 7' albino elves with wild animal sidekicks and a tortured backstory involving a lost princess.

Darn, I screwed that up in 2350 and Karantia [Smile]

-Bok
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Have fun, Blayne. [Smile]

Bring food, be nice, make sure to take turns talking, show up on time, don't be the last one to leave, and what Tom D said.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I haven't played D&D with non-virtual people since 1990.

But Tom's advice is probably pretty good.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
my usual plan is to make either a warrior-mink type dragonborn of Bahamut or a drow/elf wizard which Is tyle after the Doctor
hurrk critical hit

cake is a lie
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
"Cake is a lie"


LOL!!!!
 
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
 
Try to get a sense before hand as to whether the group is geared towards story-telling, role-playing, or dungeon-crawling. Not that there can't be combinations of the above, but most campaigns I've seen tend to pull one way or another. If you can talk to some of the players before hand, or the GM is honest and accurate in his/her own assessment, it will help. It's good to know before going in if the party needs a paladin for his ability to be a strong moral center or his ability to be a brick with healing and protection from evil.

Take things slow, and learn. Don't try to impress anyone early on with your keen wit or irreplacable cunning.

And find out what sort of snacks your GM prefers. [Smile] (Hey, can't hurt.)
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
Don't play a paladin. Unless you're really an experienced role player, you're going to end up having to arrest the entire group at every turn.

In the same theme, don't add any personality quirks that force you to fight with the group, or go off on different tracks. Nothing makes a game less fun than spending a lot of time fighting within the group.
 
Posted by airmanfour (Member # 6111) on :
 
Bring Mountain Dew and Funions. It's a delicious combination. And using a magic missile to attack the darkness ALWAYS works.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Alright got back an hour ish ago.

Here's a recap:

Unfortunately it seems that the sessions are only like once every 3-4 weeks or so since our DM can't afford that many geusts over every weekend, and while I'm used to having weekly shedualed sessions they aren't. [Frown] So itll be a few weeks before the next one.

I brought my laptop for the pdf's, a pencil, and my notebook (very important as I became the note keeper for the party). Because of transportation issues I came somewhat early (7:40 AM rather then the originally requested 9:30) so we played Halo 2 the 2 of us (I gotz pwned) then at 8:30-ish we started brainstorming my character.

I wanted to be either a dedicated mage, or dedicated fighter as I don't like multiclassing. Sinbce there was already a wizard in the group and the DM did say that he'ld very much like a fighter I decided to roll a Shield Dwarf fighter. (hes reaction was "I am so glad your a dwarf, they get so may racial bonuses)

I name him Rurik Bradenski longtime Waterdeep resident afraid of water, I go the whole two handed Dwarven battle ax route.

The rules of what races I could choose were anything not more then ECL+1 so no full Drow [Frown] or half dragons and crazy races.

We played using a big rectangular table with the DM and his little area on one end and everyone around the table. We had a smaller table nearby for the minitatures so we knew all the exact details measurementwise of our surroundings.

The original group had the mission of clearing out sections of the sewers of vermin, between fights our characters would roleplay our moves and reasonings behind them very fun, my character got introduced as a Dwarf looking for work, overheard them talking about a job with the city and joined up with them.

The group had a plaintouch(? Azimar) Wizard, Moon Elf rogue, human fighter, moon elf druid, dwarf fighter (me) there's 2 in hiatus characters a half drow cleric and a monk of some kind.

We went into the sewers the DM was very good at describing surroundings and seemed to know intuitively what all the game mechanics were only chcking the reference manuals for specific information, we had random encounters, lots of traps (the rogue sprung them more often then not) and I go the uncanny feeling that the DM was trying to creatively challenge us [Big Grin]

We came across a river in a narrow corridor 20-30 feet wide, 20 feet wide river going through it, the rogue threw a rope for the team to swing across, the druid nearly fell in the rushing waters, the wizard fell in, TWICE had to be pulled out via chain the first time, and managed to swim out the second time.

My dwarf not liking either the water or the rope jumped across (roled a 20 on my jump chgeck) and managed to stay balanced when I landed at the other end.

The rogue not only swung across but scored max on a tumble check, the DM magnificently described in detail how the rogue as it swung over, flipped over into a sumersault, flicked the rope to detach from the stagmalite, bundle up at his side as he was in the air landed with a "Tadaah!" and in one smooth motion put the rope in his backpack.

My dwarf could only sputter at his showoffness.

We got through, went into a room, encounted a Lich, not quite a Lich as he only had certain powers to harm us but we disturbed his grave and he demanded we finish one of his experiments from long ago inorder to leave alive.

We explore his lab thingy encounter a patchwork zombie thats not animated yet, before we put his reanimation gem into the zombie we notice a goal knawing on the corpses behind us so deciding to secure out option for a retreat we killed it (I got the finishing blow) and 3 more appeared nearly killing the Druids stupid badger that the druid insisted on healing rather then us.

We killed the ghouls, and reanimated the patchwork aka manbearpig zombie, and the Lich gave us 1 minute to leave his domain or else he'ld sick the zombie at us, now for a bunch of level ones we theoretically beat it.

But we were so weakened from the ghouls that it would have raped us hardcore so we ran, infact as it turns out in the previous session the human fighter had found a teleportation device in a nearby room which we then ran to, we all grabbed him and got teleported out.

We all upon teleportation failed our reflex saves ad got shunted, normally this would've killed the entire party but the fighter but instead we had our health reduced to 0 (no matter what) and rendered unconsience for 8 hours.

The fighter unharmed, stole my 4 portions of cure light wounds, and revived the druid, the rpgue, and then the mage and finally me.

When they told me they took my potions for this my dwarf was furious, as they stole me property, the fighter made admens by offering to pay for 200 gp of ale.

Thats 7000 mugs of ale, so I get free drinks for life now [Big Grin]

I livened up my Irish accent for my role, I roleplayed well enough to gain an extra 100 xp. I even managed to get to lvl 2! [Smile]

*Sigh* 3-4 weeks until the next session [Frown]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
8-bit reenactment of our session....
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Yay. [Smile]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
quote:

DM: So.... it has the left arm of a... lizard folk, it muscular and scaly, the right arm of a Dwarf...

Me: (IC) By Moradin's Beard! That arm, its Dwarven in origin!

DM: And it has a leg of a... of a bugbear, and the other leg is human, its head is this shunked dishevelled face, and its eyes are white with no pupils.

Me: (OOC) So it's a manbearpig?

Everyone: Laughter.

........ Later ........

Me: Alright lads! Lets do this! Ruuuuuuurriiiiiik Braaaaadennnnnnskiiiii!

DM: Oh dear god, not Leeroy Jenkins.



 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Glad it was a positive experience for your Blayne. Hopefully you will continue to enjoy many more campaigns in the future.
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
Blayne, the DM was good to suggest a more "normal" character for your first game with them... it's important to realize that with pen&paper D&D it's far more important to make an interesting/believable/fun character than to power-game... every time I'm playing with my friends and one comes in with 3 natural 18's etc it's more annoying than anything else. Since pen&paper isn't nearly as bound by the strictures of the rules, stats etc really don't make nearly as much difference (in general).

basic summary: your awesome NWN2 character would probably make a terrible addition to a pen&paper game. However, that bumbling thief with a dex of 13 would probably make a great character, especially once you add in that he's a kleptomaniac and thinks he's actually an ogre...

also, I'm amused that a 4' tall dwarf somehow managed to jump 20' =p
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Assuming Blayne actually rolled a natural 20 on his Jump check, it's within the realm of possibility. His dwarf is probably in mediumish armor, so we're looking at a penalty of around -7. The DC for a 20' long jump is 20, so a Jump skill of 7 would do it for him. He'd actually be within range of the edge with a Jump skill of 2, provided he made a Reflex save (DC15) -- which is probably harder for him than the Jump check, since he's a dwarven fighter.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I had maxed out (+4) skill points into jump when i made my character. I'm geussing 20-25 feet wide river as the map showed that it took about 2-3 domino blocks to bridge it.

NOBODY tosses a dwarf.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
If you had 4 points in Jump and the river was 25 feet wide, you could not have made that jump even with a natural 20.

If you had 4 points in Jump and the river was 20 feet wide, you could have made that jump on a natural 20 if you were wearing light armor or rolled a Reflex save against DC15.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
As I said I'm assuming its 20 based on my rough gestimation on the map, I never asked what the digiterilymeters were.
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
That depends on whether they were using the very common variant rule that a natural 20 on skill checks translates to a 30.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
If a natural 20 = 30, how would you roll a 20?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I've never seen that variant rule.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
PHB II?
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
Tom, are you factoring in other modifiers or assuming Blayne's statement meant his total bonus to Jump was +4?

He said he "maxed out"jump with +4, which I took to mean 4 ranks at level 1. But Jump is a strength skill, if memory serves. And he's a dwarven fighter, right? How much you want to bet he has at least a 16 strength? Giving him the necessary +7 to make the jump.

Squicky's suggestion is also possible... as is the possibility that nobody involved in the game is versed enough in the rules to realize that n20 on skill checks does not equal automatic success. I've met plenty of people who assumed any n20 meant success, regardless of the nature of the roll.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MrSquicky:
That depends on whether they were using the very common variant rule that a natural 20 on skill checks translates to a 30.

I believe Neverwinter Nights 2 uses that same rule, so to speak: 20 is instant success unless the task is way beyond your abilities.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I have 18 strength, which makes sense as I am fairly sure our DM knows damn well what hes doing as he has been doing dnd for a long time.
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
the point I was trying to make was that it seemed silly in terms of actual physical dimensions, not in terms of gameplay... if I were DM-ing that session I'd probably allow it.

it's just that if you picture a stout, short-legged humanoid with a total height of ~4 feet it's nigh-impossible to accept that he'd be capable of an unassisted 20' jump or even something like a 15' jump (assuming a safe margin on Blayne's estimation) I'm just laughing at the thought is all [Smile]

note: this is coming from a guy who's had characters killed by pineapples before, so...
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
My Dwarf is also afraid of water, hence the jump.
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
One of the things I love about fantasy role playing games is that people will argue about whether or not a Dwarf could physically jump a 20' gap, while not worrying about the undead he's fighting on the other side. [Smile]
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
They're too scared of the undead to talk about them. Actually I have no idea.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MightyCow:
One of the things I love about fantasy role playing games is that people will argue about whether or not a Dwarf could physically jump a 20' gap, while not worrying about the undead he's fighting on the other side. [Smile]

As long as none of the undead are wearing chain mail pants....
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MightyCow:
One of the things I love about fantasy role playing games is that people will argue about whether or not a Dwarf could physically jump a 20' gap, while not worrying about the undead he's fighting on the other side. [Smile]

I really don't see why that surprises you. Any time you read any Sci-Fi or any sort of fantasy novel, there will be things you are willing to suspend disbelief for, and things you won't. I guess if you find all Sci-Fi (except really, really, really hard SF) and fantasy inherently silly in this way, I'll let it go. But otherwise, it seems like you're being a hypocrite.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
World-record long jumps are a bit less than 9 meters, or roughly 30 feet. That's for 6-foot human athletes in peak, absolutely top physical condition from a modern training regime (including the possibility of drugs) and carrying no gear at all. Jump lengths do not scale linearly with size, so allowing for that we can say the dwarf world record should be somewhere around 25 feet. But again, that's for athletes who practice every day for ten years and wear the lightest possible clothing. In any kind of armour (or ordinary street clothing!), wearing a backpack, even just carrying an axe - fuhgeddaboudid. Short of Moradin appearing behind you and huffing and puffing to blow your Dwarf over, you should have been dumped in the river.

However, as Blayne says, 20 feet is his estimate from a glance at the map. Going the other way and reasoning from the known fact that a dwarf in armour managed it on a natural 20, we may calculate the river width as somewhere between 12 and 15 feet.
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
With a natural 20, my 10th level monk could jump a distance of 44 feet.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
All of these arguments about dwarf limitations in jumping are greatly ignorant of the physiology of dwarves.

Which as anyone will tell you include the fact that their legs are coiled spring-pistons.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Monks have supernatural assistance, and don't wear armour.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:
With a natural 20, my 10th level monk could jump a distance of 44 feet.

Feh, that's nothing! You should see how far the imaginary person I just made up up can jump.

Plus, all the girls think he's dreamy.
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
My Dwarf is also afraid of water, hence the jump.

Speaking of Dragonlance, you stole that.
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
He might have, but I don't think that it's such a unique idea that you can really say that with such certainty.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
My fourth-level Iron Heroes character, who wears no armor, has a +18 running Jump check (+22 if he's raging). In theory, then, he can leap a 42' wide chasm. He has a 50% chance of jumping more than 31'.

It's rather amusing. Especially since he can jump slightly farther than he can move in a round, which means (according to the rules) that he actually spends one full round suspended in mid-air before landing. [Smile]
 
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
I've spent a good 15 minutes pouring over this thread.

I've decided my brain is simply incapable of understanding D&D...
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
But otherwise, it seems like you're being a hypocrite.

That's a little rude.

I wasn't making a criticism, I do the same thing. I'm just entertained when other people and me are willing to suspend disbelief of entirely fantastical things, while looking askance at more mundane problems.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JonHecht:
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
My Dwarf is also afraid of water, hence the jump.

Speaking of Dragonlance, you stole that.
[Blushing]

DM: "He's a Dwarf that's afraid of water, the irony is: He lives in WaterDeep"
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MightyCow:
quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
But otherwise, it seems like you're being a hypocrite.

That's a little rude.

I wasn't making a criticism, I do the same thing. I'm just entertained when other people and me are willing to suspend disbelief of entirely fantastical things, while looking askance at more mundane problems.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude. It's just an attitude I have encountered before, which irks me.

Just because I accept magic and goblins and yuan-ti, doesn't mean I accept that a greatsword weighs 15 pounds. Some things are just too fantastical to swallow
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
It's rather amusing. Especially since he can jump slightly farther than he can move in a round, which means (according to the rules) that he actually spends one full round suspended in mid-air before landing. [Smile]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that he uses a move action in one round to start the jump, then a move action in another round to finish? That'd still leave him with a standard action in the second round.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
KoM, just so you know-- technically, the monk's special abilities are not supernatural.
 
Posted by Shepherd (Member # 7380) on :
 
I hereby give you the greatest tank of all time.

Halfgiant Souldblade withe Monkey Grip feat.

Meaning= You can use huge weapons with no penalties, oh and you make your own huge blade with your mind, blacksmiths are for fools.

Oh, and multi class into barbarian afer a few levels, for the d12 hit dice and rage. then alternate between soulblade and barbarian.
 
Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott R:
KoM, just so you know-- technically, the monk's special abilities are not supernatural.

Well, not the ones that make a monk jump farther.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Looks like were one member down, our DM has removed one player from the group (not me yay!) reasons confuse me sort of, just didn't like how he played in general it seems, kinda sad realy but i think we have enough players.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
Gosh. What kind of social outcast do you have to be to have the RPG nerds ask you to bug off?

[Smile]
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
Looks like were one member down, our DM has removed one player from the group (not me yay!) reasons confuse me sort of, just didn't like how he played in general it seems, kinda sad realy but i think we have enough players.

I had something similar happen to me. I'm not a big fan of DMs who don't like to work with their players.

Fortunately, my current DM has a good head on his shoulders and everyone I play with likes me. I'm still scratching my head over getting kicked out of the other game. It's caused a small amount of strife within the group of friends that plays together because just about everyone except the DM and his wife think kicking me out was a big pile of horse hockey.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
You know I was reading this, and I was like "huh, that sucks why the heck was he kicked from that other group?!" Then I read the OP was PC and my mind had a momentarily double take [Big Grin]

Basically I am unsure of what exactly caused it, its not just the DM at least 1 other person I talked to explain it a bit about how the kicked player was also cocky and spoke out of character alot, sucks losing the rogue but I hope its all okay and not something sneaky or conspiratal in nature.


Hmm, is there an unspolen rule among DM's to do town quests until level 4?

Basically this person I'm acquainted with commented that my current campaign follows the unspoken rule, since he says that if you leave the town/city when your below level 4 your automatically dead, how accurate is this?
 
Posted by TheGrimace (Member # 9178) on :
 
I don't think there's any rule along those lines that I've ever run into. However, there is a general understanding that for the first couple levels characters tend to be very limited in their abilities, and this limit possible encounters.

Once you've got a few levels under your belt suddenly you have at least a handful of spells and abilities at your disposal that make you more versatile and more able to cope with varying encounters.

For example: at lvl 1 your fighter is really not that much better in combat than your mager or rogue (i.e. 1-2 hits and you're probably dead) and those two castings of magic missile or whatever aren't going to get you far. but at level 3, 4, 5 you have a few decent skills, some spells, better combat abilities, probably some better equipment etc...

I actually haven't started a campaign at lower than lvl 3 since middle school actually because we don't like dealing with the "infant" phase of character development.

That being said, I've also played with a party of 1st level characters that went dungeon crawling, but two of them died and there was no convenient way for the DM to do anything about it. Wheras when you're at least near civilization there's always a chance to medivac your wounded companions to the nearest temple, or that some wandering paladin will grant you aid...
 
Posted by Enigmatic (Member # 7785) on :
 
Wow, if people got kicked out for talking out of character none of the D&D groups I've been in would have had anybody left after the first hour of each session. We always seemed slow to get into the game, and had a period of catching up with each other about other stuff first.

quote:
Hmm, is there an unspolen rule among DM's to do town quests until level 4?

Basically this person I'm acquainted with commented that my current campaign follows the unspoken rule, since he says that if you leave the town/city when your below level 4 your automatically dead, how accurate is this?

This is the first I've ever heard of that. It's something that would seem to depend entirely on the campaign world and the DM. If your DM's setting is such that outside of cities is all untamed wilderness full of monsters instead of conveniently-scaled encounters with groups of no more than 4 goblins, then yeah, stay in town.

I'd think it's more a rule of playing in games starting out in big detailed cities like Waterdeep: Nothing sucks like having tons of city source material and fleshed-out NPCs when the players say "We're done buying stuff so let's get out of town and see what's in that forest!"

Meanwhile, I've run plenty of campaigns where the "city adventuring" part is far more fatal than your typical dungeon crawling. YMMV.

--Enigmatic
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
You know I was reading this, and I was like "huh, that sucks why the heck was he kicked from that other group?!" Then I read the OP was PC and my mind had a momentarily double take [Big Grin]

What do you mean by this?
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I was making a joke at the expense of our usually animosity, hence the smiley.
 
Posted by Lostincyberspace (Member # 11228) on :
 
I wish I could find a group of people to play around me. I cant find anyone that has enough time to do it.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
if people got kicked out for talking out of character none of the D&D groups I've been in would have had anybody left after the first hour of each session.
if people got kicked out for talking out of character none of the D&D groups I've been in would have been even remotely fun.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I think its more then a simple matter fo speaking OOC, being my only session with them thus far, I have no idea how he may have acted last sessiion that in tandem would result in his kicking, its confusing but I wont lose sleep over it.
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
"My elf stands still when the god that commands him gets a snack."
 


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