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Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Such as this new featurette...

Kinda makes me wonder if the rumors of a Shia-centric fifth film are true. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
Rumors of Shia-centric anything are cause for alarm.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
"Rumors of Shia-centric anything are cause for alarm."

Heck yeah.
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
Finally, all that martial arts training in Saudia Arabia is paying off for Shia!

Wait, Sen. Leibermann just whispered something in my ear. . .
 
Posted by Lord Solar Macharius (Member # 7775) on :
 
What about a Shia-centric Y: The Last Man?
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Shia's definitely active in campaigning for that role.
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
Cause for alarm.
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
Maybe he'll be cast as the mon-...no, too obvious a joke. [Wink]
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Well lets face it, there is a good chance this Indiana Jones will be a sort of, "The changing of the guard" movie.

It might not, but there is a good chance I should think.
 
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
 
I still don't know whether I like Shia or not.
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
Is Shia's character really named "Mutt Williams"?

I just can't tell you how much I'm *not* looking forward to "Mutt Williams and the March of the Atlanteans", directed by Joe Johnston, written by Carl Ellsworth, starring Shia LaBeouf and Rachel Bilson....

You know?
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
I liked Shia way back in Holes, but his recent efforts have muted that liking. So yeah, I'm hoping he does a good job in Kingdom, especially if he has as prominent a role as they seem to hint at.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
I liked Shia way back in Holes, but his recent efforts have muted that liking. So yeah, I'm hoping he does a good job in Kingdom, especially if he has as prominent a role as they seem to hint at.

I thought he was also great as the eccentric younger brother in the television program Even Stevens.
 
Posted by docmagik (Member # 1131) on :
 
He was a great actor for comedies. I even think he's a decent dramatic actor.

In action movies, though, he's a joke.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I don't think I would watch a movie in this franchise that wasn't a real Indiana Jones film.

Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones. I'm glad that IV was finally filmed. But I think they should stop. For the sake of artistic integrity.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Well lets face it, there is a good chance this Indiana Jones will be a sort of, "The changing of the guard" movie.

It might not, but there is a good chance I should think.

I doubt it for a couple reasons. I'm pretty sure Lucas has veto rights over anything Indiana Jones related, and given how long it took to make this one happen, outside of Shia maybe doing some sort of Young Adventures of Indiana Jones thing, I think this is the last movie. I don't think he'll do anymore (and I'd be shocked if he and Spielberg could get their schedules to jive on a fifth one) and I don't think he'd let anyone else do it without him.
 
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
 
Shia Labeouf makes any movie better.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by docmagik:
He was a great actor for comedies. I even think he's a decent dramatic actor.

In action movies, though, he's a joke.

I've tried interpreting the bold portion several ways, and the statement holds true, regardless.
 
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
I thought he was good in Disturbia.
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Well lets face it, there is a good chance this Indiana Jones will be a sort of, "The changing of the guard" movie.

It might not, but there is a good chance I should think.

I doubt it for a couple reasons. I'm pretty sure Lucas has veto rights over anything Indiana Jones related, and given how long it took to make this one happen, outside of Shia maybe doing some sort of Young Adventures of Indiana Jones thing, I think this is the last movie. I don't think he'll do anymore (and I'd be shocked if he and Spielberg could get their schedules to jive on a fifth one) and I don't think he'd let anyone else do it without him.
What I meant was that DURING Kingdom of the Crystal Skull we will see Indiana start out strong at the beginning of the movie, and fade until towards the end Shia will have to save the day. How far across the spectrum they will go I am not sure but I think it's quite possible.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Ah, I sort of thought you meant that, but in less of a one off way and more of a "pass the franchise torch" sort of way.

Yeah I think that might be possible. I lean more towards them trying to show each other up a little bit in a familial sort of compeitition, and I think it'll be mostly equal.
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
I honestly hope that they don't make another Indiana Jones after this one. I don't think Spielberg will let it happen though. That trilogy was one of his crowning achievements and he's not going to let it go down the tubes, I don't think.

As for Shia LaBeouf, I think he's a very good actor. I liked him in Transformers. I think he's very capable and is trying his hand at something other than comedy, which I find admirable.

It's very possible that Indy will get in trouble and it'll be up to Shia (or Mutt, as the case may be) to save the day. I mean, that would make sense in the way action films usually go. Either way, I'm still going to see it. How can I not? But I probably won't see any Indiana Jones films after that, just out of principle.
 
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
 
What principle would that be?
 
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
 
The original Indiana Jones deal wasn't for a trilogy, it was for five films.

Just sayin'. [Smile]
 
Posted by Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged (Member # 7476) on :
 
I bet he says NO NO NO at least once
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
The principle that only Harrison Ford should be in Indiana Jones movies.

And maybe it was originally supposed to be 5 movies, but I honestly don't think this movie is what Spielberg had in mind when he thought of the 4th movie. I really don't think a 25 year break between movies was all part of the master plan.
 
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
 
I have so far been mostly impressed with Shia's choices of movies. Not that the movies were that great creatively, but they haven't been absolute disasters. His acting skills, however, are not very good.
 
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Evie3217:
The principle that only Harrison Ford should be in Indiana Jones movies.

That would make for boring movies. [Razz]
 
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
 
quote:
I bet he says NO NO NO at least once
[ROFL]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Woah woah woah, the very POINT of Indiana Jones is that he is a regular guy who if anyone can muster up a little courage they can be just like him, I see it as entirely possible and acceptable that there could be additional movies or a series where Shia becomes the nextgen and Indy the mentor.
 
Posted by Constipatron (Member # 8831) on :
 
I don't know.... Indiana Jones is kind of outdated these days... was that part of Ford they left back on the road in the last movie or does he have a fake limb we don't know about?
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Miro:
quote:
Originally posted by Evie3217:
The principle that only Harrison Ford should be in Indiana Jones movies.

That would make for boring movies. [Razz]
Okay, so I rephrase my statement. Only Harrison Ford should be the STAR of Indiana Jones.

Although I have to say, I wouldn't exactly mind an entire movie of just Harrison Ford running up and down old Incan ruins.
 
Posted by the_Somalian (Member # 6688) on :
 
What an insufferable actor. I liked the film "Holes" but he was utterly upstaged by the boy who played Hector Zeroni. And the reason his performance is tolerable in that film is because he was still pretty young and boyish. He's grown up now though so his lack of talent is more glaring. I have no idea why Hollywood execs don't pick up on this.

[ March 29, 2008, 06:18 AM: Message edited by: the_Somalian ]
 
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
 
Holes was good (hey, didn't know that was him.) Greatest Game was pretty good. Transformers made me want to root around in my brain with a stick to get it out.

I don't know that that's Labeouf's fault exactly. He didn't exactly have a script to work with, but then, he didn't bring much to what little he was given, either.

I'll watch Indy 4 and try to withhold judgement. I like what I've seen in the previews, but I'm definitely going to it for Ford (and, heck, Allen) not for Labeouf.

ADD: Does Marian's presence give anyone else uncomfortable "he's your son" vibes?...
 


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