Would you rather your spouse A> Take up smoking or B> Cheat on you ONCE. (and only Once)
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
B.
Why do you ask?
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
His/her spouse is offering a dark choice...
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
It would depend on the circumstances of the cheating, I suppose.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Mostly I'd say B because smoking could well shorten his life, my life, and the life of our children. Adultery is no less weighty in being a spiritual cancer, however, I believe I could forgive him and I would hope he would repent.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
This has nothing to do with my husband =P I'll explain the reason I ask after more people have answered.
Posted by ElJay (Member # 6358) on :
Honestly, depending on the situation of the cheating, I think either could be a deal breaker for me. Cheating, even once, is one of my few automatic dealbreakers, and I have very severe allergies. I couldn't live with someone who smoked, and if they went ahead and started anyway, knowing that, they obviously don't have much of a regard for our marriage in the first place.
You picked two doozies, Pix. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
It actually says in Latter Day scriptures (Doc. & Cov. 42) that a spouse should be forgiven once, but if they cheat again, it's up to the spouse whether to remain with them.
Most people I know who've lived through this say it's very tough to forgive when you're being commanded to.
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
A because I do enjoy the occasional fine cigar and there are a lot of depends to the smoking part too. In the house? Cigarettes? how many packs a day? I couldn't choose B because that is something I can't forgive or forget...and I just got married last week so this is actually relevant for me now Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
A.
Its a hard pick and I understand why some people could choose B. I'm not married but my boyfriend smoked the first two years that I was dating him but has thankfully been smoke-free since January. I think I could deal with him smoking easier than I could deal with him cheating because even if our time together is shortened, I think we'd both want to live that time with honesty and respect towards each other and ourselves.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Congratulations!
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Clarification: 2 packs a day smoker. Not Cigars, not a Pipe, not a joint. 2 full packs of cigarettes per day.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
I say A. It's very convenient to say that they'll cheat once and only once, but you're never really going to know. Trust plays a huge part in that, and once the trust is broken...
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
Both are deal breakers to me, so it doesn't matter what I'd choose. To say she'd cheat on me once and only once is pretty much useless. There's hardly a way to prove it, short of following that person everywhere. And I've had a girlfriend who smoked, I'm not going through that again, and I especially won't marry a girl who does. Can I flip a coin? Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
I'd say B, then pull out a deck of cards for a quick one/on/one game of strip poker. I wouldn't mind if my wife cheats when we play that.
Now, strip Stratego--that you can't cheat at.
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
Hmm...might depend on the circumstances of the cheating, and how certain I could be that it would only be the once, but I think I'd be more likely to go with B.
Posted by Tresopax (Member # 1063) on :
It seems to me that this is a choice between having your spouse violate their bond with you or having your spouse slowly kill themselves. Given that, I'd think the smoking is worse.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
B.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I don't think of either as a "deal breaker", though to be clear, my husband would have to submit to a lot of testing and a waiting period before relations resumed.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tresopax: It seems to me that this is a choice between having your spouse violate their bond with you or having your spouse slowly kill themselves. Given that, I'd think the smoking is worse.
That makes sense. The relationship would be over either way, so no difference for me, but the spouse would be better off in the second case. B it is.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
Look at it this way. You can always try to get your spouse to quit smoking before he/she dies. Cheating's not the same. Your spouse can't undo what he/she did.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I agree with Corwin. Both are dealbreakers for me and the relationship is over either way, so I'd prefer the one that doesn't end with him dead too young, for his sake.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Does the spouse tell me about the cheating right away, or do they try to hide it? Do they contract any STDs as a result of their cheating? Do I contract any STDs as a result of their cheating? If so, which ones?
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Noemon: No STDs, she tells you the very next day amid tears of regret.
Posted by Saephon (Member # 9623) on :
Well, my ex-girlfriend did both; fortunately they were both very minor occurrences, so the cheating wasn't anything too bad. However, she did smoke somewhat often for about a month, and as much as I loathe cheating, I can honestly say my heartache and worries over killing herself with cigarettes were worse. It's really tough trying to convince someone to stop because you want to help them, when they take it personally and think you're just being judgmental.
Anyway, it's a happy ending; she never cheated again as far as I know, and she stopped smoking through her own willpower Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Noemon: No STDs, she tells you the very next day amid tears of regret.
How's this supposed to be persuasive? I suppose if the spouse confesses and asks to enter counselling immediately, in my case, I'd know that he was sincere, since I can't imagine my husband ever submitting himself to a shrink. But I'm trying to work with you on a scenario where I could believe it would be once and only once.
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
I would have to choose A. Trust plays a big part in relationships, and I would rather be able to trust my spouse than constantly be worrying about whether they're going to cheat or not. You can never be entirely sure that they're not going to do it again. Smoking at least you can quit. I wouldn't feel betrayed if my spouse started smoking. Now cheating, that's a different matter.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
But you have to trust someone anyway. Even when it's never happened, you can never be sure it isn't going to happen.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Noemon: No STDs, she tells you the very next day amid tears of regret.
In that case, definitely the cheating for me. Like Liza, I have allergies that would make living with a smoker even more dangerous for me than it is for most people. I've been cheated on by a spouse, and while it isn't a walk in the park, I survived it (and while our marriage didn't, one of the things that I found out about myself as a result of the experience was that I could rebuild trust after having been cheated on. Though we're not together, I absolutely trust my ex).
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by pooka: [QB]
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: [qb] Noemon: No STDs, she tells you the very next day amid tears of regret.
How's this supposed to be persuasive?
Well, it doesn't mean that they won't do again, necessarily, but it does indicate that they sincerely regret their actions. Well, probably.
More importantly to me, though, it means that the level of deception is minimized.
That leads me to a related question--in the circumstance of your partner cheating on you a single time and somehow being 100% certain that they didn't contract any kind of an STD or get pregnant/get anyone pregnant, would you rather that they were upfront about it and immediately confess to you what they'd done, or would you rather never know about it (assuming for the purposes of the hypothetical that the information wouldn't eventually leak out somehow)? I'd much rather that they be upfront with me.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by ElJay: Honestly, depending on the situation of the cheating, I think either could be a deal breaker for me. Cheating, even once, is one of my few automatic dealbreakers, and I have very severe allergies. I couldn't live with someone who smoked, and if they went ahead and started anyway, knowing that, they obviously don't have much of a regard for our marriage in the first place.
Agreed.
Posted by scholarette (Member # 11540) on :
I've got to go with B. I am not sure that he would be forgiven for cheating, but second hand smoking can hurt my baby and even if I divorced my husband, my little girl would still be around her dad. So, she would still be exposed. Gotta pick what's best for my child.
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
Ok.. The reason I asked...
Back when I was a teen, whenever the anti-smoking people won something, I'd cheer. My dad is a smoker (Even after a quintuple bypass last year, he still smokes) and I'd grown up with that foul smelling addiction more or less blown in my face every day. I hated (and still hate) smoking with a passion.
Then one day my dad said to me that when they (the anti-smoking people) were finished with smoking, they'd move on to something *I* liked. Which of course, they did and continue to do. (fast food, meat, etc.)
It occured to me, that for many people, smoking was a greater sin than adultery. I didn't see how that could be right until I thought about how I would react and I couldn't decide which would be worse. I dated a smoker one time. The smell and taste covered every inch of her and, all the health stuff aside, I rapidly lost all attraction to her I had. If my hubby started smoking, wouldn't it end the relationship just as if he had cheated?
Just a generation or two ago, *everyone* smoked. And judging from the responses I got here and on another forum, all it's taken is, what, 50 years? for it to become as bad or worse than one of "The Big Ten."
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
B - if I had a spouse. No question.
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
I could just imagine a spouse saying "Well yes I cheated on you but at least I didn't smoke!" Plus the scale is tipped pretty far in the anti-smoking direction from the start. I wonder if people would give the same answer if the choices were smoking 2 packs a day and cheating at least twice a month? Cheating once and never doing it again is unfair to compare to smoking every day. To make it more balanced it would have to be smoke a pack once and never do it again versus cheating once and never doing it again.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Just a generation or two ago, *everyone* smoked.
That was the perception, but it's certainly not true. My mom's no-way list when she was dating also included smokers, and for similar reasons -- the allergies are a family thing.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
My mom's family have always considered smoking a big no-no-- Southern Baptists.
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
Definitely B.
I sometimes wish that I was allergic to smoke, only so that I had more of a justification for my revulsion.
I actually lose all attraction for a woman if I see her smoking. She could be the most gorgeous, intelligent, charming woman in the world. But if I see her smoke...blech!
Posted by Shawshank (Member # 8453) on :
My brother is the only one in my family who smokes. It was also a giant no-no in our family (for religious and health reasons).
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
I'm asthmatic. I would rather my husband cheat on me repeatedly rather than smoke (of course I'd divorce him at that point, but as a previous poster noted I wouldn't have to worry about the kids being exposed to second hand smoke on their days with him).
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote:...would you rather that they were upfront about it and immediately confess to you what they'd done, or would you rather never know about it...
I haven't thought about it in a few years, but one of the things Dr. Laura used to say to cheaters was to not tell, because you don't have a right to cause that pain to the other person. I have a hard time seeing that. It seems like... I don't know, like keeping in a secret like that would fester, and the next thing you know, there are tentacled baby monsters in the fourth floor lavatory.
P.S. I'd also venture to add that if one says even one-time adultery is a deal breaker, does that compel the cheater to not come clean?
Posted by Artemisia Tridentata (Member # 8746) on :
quote:Just a generation or two ago, *everyone* smoked. And judging from the responses I got here and on another forum, all it's taken is, what, 50 years? for it to become as bad or worse than one of "The Big Ten."
" I don't drink, and I don't smoke, and two out of three ain't bad " has been a come-on line for at least the last 50 years that I've been noticing come-on lines.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by pooka:
quote:...would you rather that they were upfront about it and immediately confess to you what they'd done, or would you rather never know about it...
I haven't thought about it in a few years, but one of the things Dr. Laura used to say to cheaters was to not tell, because you don't have a right to cause that pain to the other person. I have a hard time seeing that. It seems like... I don't know, like keeping in a secret like that would fester, and the next thing you know, there are tentacled baby monsters in the fourth floor lavatory.
P.S. I'd also venture to add that if one says even one-time adultery is a deal breaker, does that compel the cheater to not come clean?
One must also consider that if the cheater is accidentally "found out" later there will be the "why didn't you confess" issue.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
"Because Dr. Laura told me it would just cause you pain."
Again, I don't think it actually is good advice. I've just heard it said, is all.
Posted by Fusiachi (Member # 7376) on :
Easy choice. B. Given that the option says "only once", you've just gone a long way to removing any and all doubt in the future. Sure, I'd be tremendously disappointed, but it's a one time thing. Then you have absolute trust.
Forgive, forget.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I don't agree with the no confession thing. Then you have to live with it, and it festers. Coming clean will hurt, and might cost you a lot in the short term, but will ultimately give you more peace in the long run. Not confessing could ultimately do more harm to you and to the other person than coming clean.
I would say by not confessing you are robbing the other person of the opportunity to forgive you; you did the harm already when you cheated.
Posted by DevilDreamt (Member # 10242) on :
wow. A. But that's really not fair. I smoke about 5 cigarettes a day already, and most of the women I've dated recently also smoke. I don't think I've ever met anyone who smokes even a pack a day, although I have certainly heard rumors. But 40 cigarettes a day? That's intense.
Even if I didn't smoke, I would choose it over adultery. I can understand the temptation behind adultery, but actually going through with it just seems so wrong to me. And I know I would have a hard time trusting someone after that, and I don't want to go the rest of my days suspicious. Plus I'm sure my significant other would be pretty offended three years later when I still don't completely trust them. Maybe it would go away eventually... but it would take some time.
I also understand the temptation behind smoking, and I deem smoking to be much more acceptable.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I think either would be a deal breaker. A is certainly a deal breaker, I couldn't live with a smoker.
In B I think I could find the ability to salvage a relationship if I really cared about it and the circumstances were right, though there are a ton of variables there, but it might also be a deal breaker. I'd say B, but, even it's purely theoretical.
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
I detest both smoking and adultery.
What a difficult question to answer, both can affect a family in many horrible ways. As much as it would personally hurt me for my husband to cheat on me once, I'd rather he do that, than to slowly kill himself and everyone in our home.
It's much easier for me to answer the question if the smoking deal was a "one time only" issue and the adultery was constant.
I'd also like an immediate confession if he did cheat on me. It would be much, much worse if any amount of time went by before the confession. I believe I'd know if he were smoking before I'd know if he were cheating. I have the scent detecting capability of a blood hound. That being said, maybe I'd detect both just as easy. Enough on that.
I'd really choose b if he was with another man. The idea of my husband being with another man doesn't hurt me as much as the idea of him being with another woman.
Posted by sylvrdragon (Member # 3332) on :
To me, this is a choice between a minor Objective consequence (in most cases), or a major Subjective consequence (again, in most cases). While I'm fairly certain I would consciously forgive a spouse for cheating on me, it would still be something that would stick with me subconsciously for the rest of my life. With so many variables on how it might effect me long term, I would have to go with A. I KNOW how that would likely turn out: annoying, but livable.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure that I could convince a spouse to quit smoking relatively soon after she started.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
See, since both are sins to me, the reason I chose "B" is that it is a one-time sin, vs. sinning every day, and there are only emotional/moral consequences, not the long-term health damage (not only to him, but to me-- I'm asthmatic and cigarette smoke is a severe trigger-- and to our kids, born now and unborn.) Not to mention I could live with a man I did not completely trust any longer; I could not live with a smoker.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
A. No question. And I have severe allergies.
I'm a little stunned at these results, honestly.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Well for a lot of us, taking up smoking without intention to quit means that the relationship is over.
I don't care what other qualities a woman has, if she a regular smoker, I am not interested.
So now that we've determined that A means the relationship is over, B almost wins by default. So long as there is a chance that the relationship survives with B, it wins over A.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
B.
Posted by anti_maven (Member # 9789) on :
My wife was a smoker when we got together.
I'd rather she smoked than we had the shadow of unfaithfulness over us.
So for me: A
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
A. Smoking is sexy!
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: A. Smoking is sexy!
*vomits*
Posted by anti_maven (Member # 9789) on :
Aspectre = Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
A. if I could get her to cut it down to no more than a couple of times a week, I think. Maybe.
Of course, if the cheating were with another woman, and it was videotaped, and I got to watch...OK never mind. LOL
I don't know, there are a lot of variables. Why did she cheat? This says a lot about whether or not it could happen again, and under what circumstances. I once read something that said that it's much easier to forgive cheating if it's a special situation, like your spouse is halfway across the world without you at a one-time event, versus it happening in the normal everyday course of life. I might agree with that.
If it really were under special circumstances, B.
Clearly I suck at making up my mind.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I could never stay with someone I did not trust. That sounds like it would kill your soul.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
B if it were with another woman, as steven said. Hell, I might encourage it.
Otherwise, neither.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: I could never stay with someone I did not trust. That sounds like it would kill your soul.
Of course, if you want to game it, you can absolutely, fundamentally trust your partner from this point forward; the terms of they hypothetical clearly state that the cheating is a singular, never-to-be-repeated event. You effectively have foreknowledge that they will never, ever cheat again.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think someone who will betray you in one area would happily do it again in another.
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
A. I'd make her smoke outside the house so as not to harm me or the children, though.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote:Not to mention, I'm pretty sure that I could convince a spouse to quit smoking relatively soon after she started.
Now there's some hubris.
How do we define trust, or even adultery for that matter? Jesus said to even look on another with lust is adultery. Most people say this is impossible.
Anyway, I used to say if my husband cheated on me, I'd just kill him, but I'm in a happier place now.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by katharina: I think someone who will betray you in one area would happily do it again in another.
I don't think that's automatically true, but I do think that someone who has betrayed you once has a higher likelihood of doing it again.
To piggyback on what Noemon said, the circumstances of the hypothetical are what make it the prefereable choice to me in a way, but it's what also makes it an entirely unbelievable hypothetical. Barring the use of psyhoctropic drugs or magic, I don't see how you'll ever be able to totally assure someone that it was a one time event never to be repeated. No amount of promises or reassurances are going to be able to make up for the doubt that would spring forth after such a betrayal.
But given the circumstances of the question, I think that's why many people chose B over A.
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
I'd choose A. Sure, if she chooses to do so, we're gonna have to have some ground rules to protect the children.
From my perspective, it's two-fold. I don't think smoking is necessarily wrong. Unwise, sure, but not objectively wrong. Lots of "wrong" reasons why one might start, but all subjective in my opinion. Cheating on a spouse is objectively wrong in every case. So given no other information, that's the worse choice.
The other fold of the two is again from my perspective, with which many people will not agree. Smoking is going to directly affect the smoker and many people around her, but it's affecting the part of people that does not last. Cheating on a spouse affects the part of a person I believe is (or can be, depending on how one defines things) eternal. I believe my spouse would be more seriously and permanently damaged through cheating than merely the physical damage of smoking.
Neither would of itself be a marriage breaker for me, but either one would result in a whole heck of a lot of conversation. My guess is that neither one would occur out of the blue as long as our lines of communication are regularly open (which they are), so I'll be likely to have warning of the possibility of either.
Posted by Amanecer (Member # 4068) on :
I'd choose A.
Smoking is foul and obnoxious. But cheating poisons the lives and hearts of all affected. You can air out a room a lot more easily than you can purge the pain of cheating from your life.
Posted by Christine (Member # 8594) on :
I'd have to leave my husband either way -- but it's all point of view. I'm a non-smoker and so is my husband. We both grew up with fathers who smoked and hated the stench. Both of our fathers have quit but the memory lingers. For one of us to pick up smoking would be as bad to the family as cheating because it would show callous disregard for the expectations, desires, and needs of the family.
But marriages are negotiated. Some people are ok with smoking and even like it. Technically, some people are ok with cheating but I don't think that could ever be healthy. Cheating can be overcome, but it's effort. Smoking can be a part of a normal, healthy marriage.
Posted by scholarette (Member # 11540) on :
I asked my husband this question and his response was that I would never be able to smoke several packs a day. We are too poor. And he would find any cigarettes and destroy them.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I think that once you have kids, A becomes more of a negative and B less of one, just because raising them apart (or without) then gets factored in. I'm not saying that having divorced parents is worse or better than second hand smoke, and of course it would be bad for kids to have parents who couldn't trust each other. But I think it provides an incentive to do your best to work things out -- not to put on a charade of fine-ness, but so the children can live with the two people who mean the most to them.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
That's how I feel, pooka. It may not be what it was after one person cheats-- but it can still be a family. I've screwed up in other ways, and been forgiven. I hope that we would be able to have forgiveness and love still, if not necessarily trust (at least not right away.)
I've known women whose husbands cheated and who divorced, and women whose husbands cheated and who stayed (and their husbands confessed and stopped cheating, of course. I'm not talking about women who stay with a persistant cheater.)
I've known women whose husbands had a Word of Wisdom "problem" (aka, substance addiction) and divorced, and women whose husbands were addicts who stayed (both those who tried to overcome it and those who didn't.)
Thinking of all those women, I would rather my husband cheat once (in the hypothetical) than smoke, because I could still try to have a family in that case (no guarantees it would work but I could try.) I couldn't if he persisted in smoking.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
Which would you rather have then? A perpetual cheater or a perpetual smoker? Someone who cheats once or someone who smokes in only one instance.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Pixiest: Just a generation or two ago, *everyone* smoked. And judging from the responses I got here and on another forum, all it's taken is, what, 50 years? for it to become as bad or worse than one of "The Big Ten."
I'm not sure "The Big Ten" is the standard you want to use on this one. Where do you think smoking stood compared to taking the Lord's name in vain or coveting your neighbor's possesions 50 years ago?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by manji: Which would you rather have then? A perpetual cheater or a perpetual smoker? Someone who cheats once or someone who smokes in only one instance.
That wasn't the question.
I'd rather have my husband smoke only once than cheat only once. I wouldn't be able to live with either a perpetual cheater or a perpetual smoker. I consider those two probably equally unliveable (though smoking might be worse day-to-day, I couldn't live with either.)
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
It was kind of a skewed question to begin with, though.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Yes, but judging from the responses, people seem to be pretty evenly split on it. So not so skewed as to evoke a unanimous response.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Taking up smoking means my husband has made a conscious decision to harm himself. Yes, it will affect me and the kids, but I could find a way to live with it by insisting he smoke outside, and keep his clothes downstairs in the laundry room away from mine, which he pretty much does anyway, because while he's not a smoker, he IS a firefighter and a plumber and both professions can cause clothes to smell. I find a way to live with clothes that smell, because...well...they're just clothes. He usually keeps clean clothes downstairs in the basement, goes straight there when he gets home, and changes and washes his smelly clothes immediately (and takes a shower) before coming upstairs to eat dinner, and it works okay.
But cheating means my husband has made a conscious decision to destroy our marriage. And to betray a sacred trust with both me and our children. That's not something that I could live with, nor could he live with me doing it with him.
Smoking = horrible, terrible thing but something I could work with.
Cheating = deal-breaker.
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
I've been thinking this over, and I'm not sure that this demonstrates that we think of smoking as a sin that's as bad or worse than adultery. I've thought of something that would anger me more than either smoking or one-time only adultery that did not result in STDs or a pregnancy:
Getting a cat and insisting on keeping it in the house.
I'm allergic to cats. It would make my life miserable and would probably put a strain on my body, since I get an asthma attack around cats. Of course, there's nothing morally wrong with owning a cat. It's not frowned on by society. The sin here is ongoing disregard for the comfort and health of one's spouse.
I'd argue it's the same thing with smoking. I'll grant what Belle said about minimizing the effect on the rest of the family, and in that case I might prefer it to adultery. But on the whole, I'm not sure it's smoking per se that people are reacting to, but the way it affects others. I suspect that the perceived health risks of secondhand smoke have a lot to do with why smoking is so much less acceptable than things like drinking or gambling.
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
A.
I'm with Ic. I'm pretty surprised at these results. My perspective is more or less the same as Papa's.
Posted by bootjes (Member # 11624) on :
B for reasons already stated
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
"OK then honey, so will you choose (A) drowning? or (B) blunt force trauma?"
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