I really don't like religion, can someone change my mind. Also I'd like a good argument.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
(too Hyperbolic).
[ June 04, 2008, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Achilles ]
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
it frustrates me too. Perhaps there's spirituality to consider. Or Nihilism.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Achilles, IMO you have crossed the line and are in violation of the user agreement.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
I am? I'll delete it then.
Sorry about the hyperbole.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Thank you.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:Also I'd like a good argument.
Well, you can't have one.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
An argument isn't just contradiction. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
[ June 04, 2008, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]
Posted by Lostinspace (Member # 11633) on :
quote:Originally posted by T:man: I really don't like religion, can someone change my mind. Also I'd like a good argument.
Can I change your mind, no I am sure that I can not. I don't like religion is a very blank statement and hard to discuss back. It would be like me saying I don't like history prove to me I should like history. History and Religion are very broad relms of discussion. I can, however, explain how religion works in my life and why I am a religiouos person. Would that change your mind about religion? I doubt it but it is the best one could do with such a vague and broad situation such as "I don't like religion".
Posted by Sharpie (Member # 482) on :
My mom used to tell us to go outside and play and then lock the door behind us. "Play in the shade!" I used to think that she was mean.
That's my religious thought for the day.
(Also, I'm getting some sort of zen saying of the day in my email lately. A lot of them have misspellings, which bugs me. I can't remember signing up for these zen sayings.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
You did. In a previous life.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Dude. I have a bit of a reputation around here, but I don't think I ever posted quite so blatant a troll. (In the sense of picking a fight, not flaming.) Why not just dare someone to knock the chip off your shoulder?
My prediction: You won't get any serious responses.
My reasoning:
a) It's a troll. b) You have never showed that you will actually take part in a debate. You post one-liners and little throwaways, never anything substantial. Why should we take the trouble of writing long responses to you?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by MrSquicky: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
No it isn't.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
Yes it is.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
No you don't.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
hee
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Sounds uncomfortable.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Look, Monty Python quotes have been overdone, and anyway that sketch is not their best. Can we please stop beating this dead parrot now?
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
No.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
It's not dead!
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
It's an ex-parrot! Sic transit gloria parrot!
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
And now for something completely different, a man with three buttocks.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
This thread has well exceeded my expectations.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Where does an 800 lb. Gorilla with 3 buttocks sit?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote:Where does an 800 lb. Gorilla with 3 buttocks sit?
Wherever it wants to?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I have a religious dilemma: I've always wanted to have sex in a confession booth...
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
I can't think why you would. I've heard it's just like any other place.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by twinky: I have a religious dilemma: I've always wanted to have sex in a confession booth...
At least then you can accomplish consummation, confession, and absolution simultaneously; brilliant!
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
And never have to get off your knees.
[ June 04, 2008, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: kmbboots ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Posted by Sharpie (Member # 482) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka: You did. In a previous life.
Oh, and right after I posted, terrible storms came through here. I don't think they were religious storms, but I'm never sure of anything.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
edited (awww)
[ June 04, 2008, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Jim-Me ]
Posted by Steve_G (Member # 10101) on :
quote:Originally posted by twinky: I have a religious dilemma: I've always wanted to have sex in a confession booth...
well that dilemma never seemed to have stopped those catholic priests.
Posted by BlueWizard (Member # 9389) on :
Here is the thing you most need to know; there is religion and there is religion, the two not necessarily being the same. Once you accept that, the path is easy.
On one hand there is the corrupt power hungry controlling money grubbing bureaucracy run by failed flawed fallen human beings. It's no wonder you would be turned off by that.
But there is also the religion of the underlying message, and that message is valuable. Though certainly more complicated from a practical perspective, I can sum up all religious philosophy in six word, two phrases of three words each.
Do no harm.
Do some good.
What else do you really need to know? Love they neighbor. Have compassion. Be charitable and forgiving. Be honest and truthful. And certainly many more catch phrases, but aren't they all included in those 6 simple words quoted above.
Next we must ask if a humble man like Jesus really wanted the whole world to worship and adore him? I'm not convinced. I think if he saw the state of the religion based on his life, he would be very disappointed.
Take the phrase - I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one enters the kingdom of Heaven but by me.
But what is the context of this statement. Is this Jesus telling us to blindly worship him, or is he telling us to follow his example?
Is the implied context - I am showing you the Way. I am showing you the Truth. I am showing you the Life. No one enters the kingdom of Heaven but by what I have shown you.
I personally think the latter.
Which brings me to a core point. You can be a religious and spiritual seeker without succumbing to the greed and corruption that infect the bureaucratic church. You don't need to fight in their petty battle for power, control, and wealth.
If you do feel the need to be associated with a church, find a nice small quiet church that feels comfortable to you, and take solace in your fellow seeker of wisdom and truth, and forget about the overriding bureaucracy.
Otherwise seek wisdom and truth where you can. Take what works for you, and forget the rest.
My own spirituality has been influenced by Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, and new age. I think they all have some worth. They all have some wisdom for me.
I believe that we are each on a spiritual journey seeking, oddly, ourselves. Some times it is necessary to stray from the Path, so that when you find it again, you will be able to recognize it.
Also, remember that from a Protestant perspective, the Church is only your guide. The ultimate truth, and right or wrong of things, is resolved between you and God.
It doesn't matter what the church says about gay marriage; if you examine your heart and the scriptures, and believe you understand it in the proper perspective and context, and you are OK with it. Then that is a matter resolved. Your spirituality is between you and God, and is not to be judged by others. Especially not other flawed fallen failed alleged Christians.
So, you need to separate your own spiritual quest while you remain in mortal form on this earth, from the flawed bureaucracy of the church.
Just one man's opinion.
steve/bluewizard
[ June 04, 2008, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: BlueWizard ]
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:Originally posted by kmbboots: And never have to get off your knees.
TMI! TMI!!!
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Okay. I'll delete it. Jim quoted it though, so you'll have to get him to delete as well.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Seriously? Somebody requested that that be deleted?
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
I assume that was kq's intention. I didn't think it was particularly explicit, but we all know that I have no borders and can't be allowed in more respectable society.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I think she was probably joking, both because of all the exclamation marks and because she quoted it herself.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
I didn't read KQ's post that way (edit: the way Kate did), but I didn't want to leave mine hanging out there (so to speak) by itself.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Thank, Jim. Just in case.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
No! It was funny! I was joking!
Sorry. I didn't mean to kill the funny.
C'mon, you can edit it back in. I thought it was hilarious.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
Ah...sorry for misunderstanding. I am doing a lot of that today! I'm glad you thought it was funny.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
:: points to KQ's excellent sense of humor ::
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
::points to Kate's lack of same::
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
quote:Originally posted by kmbboots: ::points to Kate's lack of same::
Considering your initial post was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time, I think you're being too hard on yourself.
Stop it. That's my schtick.
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
I thought I was going to regret reading this thread but I am so glad that I did Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
I do regret reading this thread.
Posted by Threads (Member # 10863) on :
Elitist.
Posted by Achilles (Member # 7741) on :
Why, yes. Yes I am.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
::thinks Kate should restore the funny::
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
*agrees with Noemon*
*Jim too*
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
I can't decide if it would have been funnier if BlueWizard's post wasn't intentionally over the top.
(it was, wasn't it?)
Posted by Flaming Toad on a Stick (Member # 9302) on :
I wouldn't say it was *too* over the top. Just *on* top. Intentionally, of course.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
What Steve/BlueWizard said.
Okay, back to the dirty jokes.
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
I think you've discovered the perfect answers to Trolling, random silliness and dirty humor.
Then again, that is the answer to so many of life's problems. Unemployment, taxes, hurricanes, Republicans, all can be neutrilized with silliness and dirty humor.
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