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Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
I just don't know what to make of this.

The Tesla outcools this thing any day. And $2MM? What kind of idiot would buy this thing?
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
It's gone up in price... or is this some other version? I remember it costing *only* about $1.2M.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Yeah, there's another version in the $1.2M range.
 
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
Well...it looks cooler...
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
"I remember it costing *only* about $1.2M."

Twas less than a million as a pre-production order in the not-so-distant past when the Euro was worth less than a dollar. But the USdollar has about halved its value since then.
The new version was recently auctioned for $3.2million (including the $300thousand auctioneer's fee).

"What kind of idiot would buy this thing?"

The banal, the inept, the desperate, and similar wannabees.
Still ain't nothin' compared to the toy for a true connoisseur of idiocy. Ya know how it goes,
"A billion here and a billion there. And the next thing ya know, yer spendin' some real money."

[ September 28, 2008, 05:21 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
I'm trying to figure it out, the EPA estimates are for 8 mpg city and 14 mpg highway. Does that assume it's obeying some kind of speed limit? What fuel mileage does it get at 254 mph?

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Still ain't nothin' compared to the toy for a true connoisseur of idiocy. Ya know how it goes,
"A billion here and a billion there. And the next thing ya know, yer spendin' some real money."

Well, to be honest the new Marine 1 is only $110MM apiece. It's only when you buy 23 of them that it starts to get expensive.

Hope it sounds as intimidating as the old Marine 1. I have personal experience with that.

(BTW, your banal link doesn't work.)
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Nope, $400million*apiece.
And nope again cuz if only one were built, it would cost ~$8billion. Ya only get it down to $0.4billion apiece by dividing the R&D and tooling costs amongst 28 of 'em.

I find 'em only annoying. But then being buzzed by idiots flying way under minimum legal altitude while trying to relax on the beach does tend to irritate.
Frankly woulda thought the President 'd have better things to do than ride around in an imitation ghetto-blaster/Harley trying to impress folks.

"What fuel mileage does [the Veyron] get at 254 mph?"

The Veyron'll suck dry its 100litre gas tank in under 13minutes; say ~2miles per gallon.
Which is a good thing.....cuz it'll overheat&shred its new tires in 15minutes.

* Changed the link cuz I knew it cost more than an AirForceOne 747.

[ September 28, 2008, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Fixed the banal link and changed the MarineOne.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
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Nope, $400million*apiece.
And nope again cuz if only one were built, it would cost ~$8billion. Ya only get it down to $0.4billion apiece by dividing the R&D and tooling costs amongst 28 of 'em.

Your previous MarineOne link is where I got the $110 million. And the same argument has been used to claim that a Hummer is more environmentally friendly than a Prius, because you have to divide the development cost into each unit sold. But that development will undoubtedly find its way into other products. But yeah, it's expensive. Still, somehow more justifiable than a 3 million dollar gas guzzling toy.

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Although Lockheed Martin does not make helicopters, the Navy chose it over longtime contractor Sikorsky Aircraft because the company's European partner had a three-engine model that seemed a logical off-the-shelf base for a new presidential helicopter. But modifying the EH101 has proven so complicated that the company is essentially building a new helicopter.
This reminds me of the Hubble space telescope contract, which was awarded to Perkin-Elmer. Why? Eastman Kodak had the background in optics, and offered a lower bid which included mounting both mirrors and testing them as a unit, which would have uncovered the spherical aberration problem that needed to be corrected with a space walk. But Perkin-Elmer was a military contractor, so they got the job. I'd bet Sikorsky would have done a better job on this one.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
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What fuel mileage does it get at 254 mph?
I've heard people say that, at that speed, it gets less than one mile a gallon.

Could be wrong, though, but highly believable.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
at 14 seconds per mile, that's over 4 gallons of gasoline per minute. You could use the fuel nearly as fast as you pumped it in.
 
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
 
I'm sure it can still get 150+ MPH while towing a tanker.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
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I'm sure it can still get 150+ MPH while towing a tanker.
Or install drop tanks the way fighters do. Get the car up to 150mph on the drop tanks, then drop them and push it the rest of the way up to 254.

...Wait a minute, why am I contributing to this?
 
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
 
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Ground Clearance: 4.9 in.
Whee! A 2 million dollar car that will self destruct the first time I hit a bump!

Pass, thanks.
 


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