[ October 14, 2008, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: Danlo the Wild ]
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Bull.
Posted by naysayer (Member # 11778) on :
Preposterous!
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
quote:I've poured my heart, soul and sanity into this project.
so that's where it went...
Edited to add:
In all seriousness, I'm a little skeptical of its greatness, given the quality of your writing on the board. Did you punctuate the screenplay? Is it coherent?
Will you email it to me so I can send you an insulting critique? Nothing personal. I always want to discourage people from writing.
Wow, I'm a little hostile.
[ October 11, 2008, 04:49 AM: Message edited by: TL ]
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
ooooooooooooooooo Thor can you emails it toomee
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
I always like to read....
In all seriousness I would actually like to read it. I will send you my review, so could you please send it.
Use the email on my profile.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
You. Spammer.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kwea: Bull.
Seconded.
There's nothing worse than an aging hipster.
Danlo, please prove your greatness rather than wasting my time avowing it.
So far, you're about 76 quality posts shy of impressing me.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
So you gonna send it?
My email: (Edit: check my profile, I dun wan no losers spamming me.)
[ October 11, 2008, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: T:man ]
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
gimme a day and i'll send the first 10 pages. Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
I actually like it...
It is pretty good. I'm such a snob, I have to point out that the Yamato are from Japan; therefore they could not be the oldest family in asia.
Ignore me! I liked this scene. Email me the rest so I can edit my email out.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Hrm. Thor, as usual, your imagery is good but your dialogue is both pretentious and incoherent. You're a cinematographer, man, or a director.
(If you would like, though, I'd be happy to correct your typos for you. It worries me a little that you've been showing this to people for three years and no one's pointed out the basic grammar errors.)
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
This script.... sucks?
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: Everyone who's read it has called it "Perfect, Awesome".
I guess that's not technically true anymore.
quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: And if it was filmed? It'd be wicked.
I assume you mean definition 3?
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
On the subject of other sorts of artistic expression, I really, really like a lot of your visual art, Thor. I would be interesting in purchasing prints of some of it, and talking about a deal to sell prints of it, for that matter.
Posted by Xann. (Member # 11482) on :
It seems as if the people of hatrack have never heard of constructive critism, Danlo, you HAVE to remember, ninjas can't use jetpacks! They would be spotted instantly, pogo sticks is understandable.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote:In all seriousness, I'm a little skeptical of its greatness, given the quality of your writing on the board. Did you punctuate the screenplay? Is it coherent?
Nah. Part of the premise is that this all takes place in a drug-induced fantasy of James Joyce and e e cummings.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Xann.: It seems as if the people of hatrack have never heard of constructive critism, Danlo, you HAVE to remember, ninjas can't use jetpacks! They would be spotted instantly, pogo sticks is understandable.
I am only constructive if I feel that the person is at all receptive, or in fact, at all interested in being criticized. But when someone says that what they've done is great, and moreover, everyone so far has said it is great, I am glad to take the opportunity, if it is warranted, of telling that person that they are not being realistic. This is one of those cases. There is an exceedingly short list of people who avow their own greatness, and who actually have achieved great and notable things, and even those people are difficult to suffer gladly.
Thor is not Quentin Tarantino.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
He isn't even Uwe Boll...
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
quote:In all seriousness, I'm a little skeptical of its greatness, given the quality of your writing on the board. Did you punctuate the screenplay? Is it coherent?
Nah. Part of the premise is that this all takes place in a drug-induced fantasy of James Joyce and e e cummings.
You realize this is the premise under which I am writing...?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:Thor is not Quentin Tarantino.
Actually -- and I mean this in all seriousness -- I think Thor could be Tarantino. I don't mean that literally, obviously. But I think there are enough similarities between Thor and Tarantino -- their strengths, their subject matter, their visual styles -- that I could very easily see Thor becoming a director in the Tarantino mold. Provided he gets off his butt and finishes film school and makes a movie or two.
Posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong (Member # 2229) on :
quote:These kids are such total conformists, scared to step out of the norm for even a split second, and their only form of humor seems to be making fun of people in a spiteful fashion.
Word. I'm a little curious as to what the financial crunch will do. Or even an Obama election? I think that with the financial crunch, either people will push to conform, or they'll think that there is not enough room for them even if they do conform, and they'll become radical, deadbeat, and all strips of awful or awesome. If Obama wins, I think there will be a push for conformity among the younger generation. Whereas McCain may actually arouse a counter-culture that comes from feeling impotent.
As to the script, I like it. I'm a little worried that you are substituting affectations for character. Is the girl wise beyond her years, in which case, she wouldn't be amused by Ogama, or she is a regular kid, in which case, she'd freak out a bit when the ninjas descend around her. Again, with the old man dancing, that seems to me to be an affect, not so much a quality of serious character, especially if knows he is about to let loose a revolution.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
"There's nothing worse than an aging hipster."
Thor isn't even 35 yet, IIRC. In fact, I believe he was born the same year as TomD and myself. If being over 30 is old...what is young? And, for that matter, where's my Social Security check, and senior citizen discounts? I mean, if you're going to take away my illusions of still being "young", how about some compensation of the monetary type? I need some help buying Rogaine.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
First it's just an offhand quote from Dr. Evil.
I said it to point out that Thor was talking quite a big rap without producing anything. He then produced some, imo, garbage which was supposed to be impressive, proving the point.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Thor, why don't you give us a 1-2 page plot summary? And, in general, if you're going to do something like this, you might want to set it in China. The families there are older, and there is more history and tradition. You could draw on the Buddhist monk tradition, or the Wudang mountain Taoist tradition, or just make up something. There are plenty of secret societies in China, martial and otherwise, therefore it would be more plausible than resurrecting the samurai. You could have an underground cave temple. In that case, the fact that the society is secret would be more plausible.
Posted by Xann. (Member # 11482) on :
quote:Originally posted by Xann.: It seems as if the people of hatrack have never heard of constructive critism, Danlo, you HAVE to remember, ninjas can't use jetpacks! They would be spotted instantly, pogo sticks is understandable.
This is the single greatest post known to man, it is in fact so great, i will now be known as "The Artist Formally and for Ever After Known, for Really Really Great Posts".
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Hi The Artist Formally and for Ever After Known, for Really Really Great Posts!
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Feel free to. I wouldn't, but that is because I have taste.
Not to mention a decent memory.
The best thing about this project is that it is yours....which means it will probably never even be finished, let alone be made into something I might have to watch.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I think that the public has really been waiting for a slow-cooking, yet exciting story about the devil taking over the world through economics (an idea taken from Batman?) who is stopped by 300 Samurai, (The Last Samurai?), and a secret ninja society that lives in an underground temple, (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles).
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
In fairness, I believe there's a market for this movie. I can even imagine paths the movie could take where I would be part of that market. (I like Equilibrium, gun fu and all. It's fun.)
It's all going to come down to execution. Getting folks to take jet pack wearing ninjas seriously is going to be a bit of a problem. I might throw in a bit of the fantastic before hand, firmly plant the idea that this is not our world, you know? Or you could save the jet packs for later when you've already got viewers emotionally involved.
Another issue is genre. It comes across as classic Asian fantasy. Then you add in some hints of sci fi. But from the rest of your description, it mostly sounds like a superhero movie. And that's good because the rules already work different in superhero movies and the audience accepts that. I have no idea on how to help the opening (before the action starts) to go from Asian fantasy to superhero Asian, but that would be my advice.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
What in God's name is this thread.
I started giggling at Irami's post and pretty much haven't stopped yet.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Thor's ideas for movies are, at heart, always superhero movies. And they quite deliberately mess with tone; his dialogue channels Star Wars and Jackie Brown in the same scene, with the same character.
I'm of the opinion that it's possible to pull off such a movie. But I don't know that you'd necessarily want to, or even that the audience for that movie really exists in great numbers; most people I know think From Dusk 'Til Dawn goes downhill after the vampires show up, and Thor's films are deliberately aimed at the people who don't feel that way.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
i lov u guys
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:...his dialogue channels Star Wars and Jackie Brown in the same scene...
"Death Star. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every #%@!%$ on the planet, accept no substitutes."
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
quote: And they quite deliberately mess with tone...
I see. While I'm all for films that challenge people, I do think it's important to recognize that it does make them less accessable. And if fewer people are expected to watch it, it'll be harder to get financing.
So Thor, if this is something you're writing because you love it, then by all means keep at it. But if you're hoping to sell it, you might need to compromise a bit.
Or look into ways to stretch a budget. Is animation cheaper? How about that entirely green screened scenery stuff that Sanctuary is doing? There's probably a way to make it happen, but it will take more forethought on your part.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
I still do not have my email!
My emails in my profile...
Posted by Trent Destian (Member # 11653) on :
It would do my already fractured mind good to go on believing that that these are posts meant as a joke. There can't be any legitimate reason why anyone would take this seriously as an even remotely good idea. Danlo if this is just you having a lark, I laugh with you. If you are being sincere, then I die a little on the inside.
Posted by Trent Destian (Member # 11653) on :
"How about an epic battle scene, you know like 300 or LOTR with like ninjas and junk. And samurai that would so be cool. Give it like a regal background for the fight, like Hero, but give them blasters and other techy stuff. Why? Who cares it'll be awesome, like a Firefly sorta thing. And let's have this chick with sweet swords and she'll be totally badass like Uma for Kill Bill. Whew best movie ever.
"But aren't you just taking scenes that have already been done well in other movies you've seen and crashing them together into the span of a few minutes and claiming greatness, effectively just going off on some nerd-gasm musing."
"Basically, but I've created my own mythology"
"Really?"
"The chick may be a god, they're in the future, and Otis's face is a weapon. I really liked that line"
"Me too, good job"
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Danlo:
It's not my kind of movie.
You need to anchor your dialog a bit-- so that when your heroine says to the samurai, "Are you my king?" we can get a sense of why she's saying it. Previous to this, she was a goofy kid at the adults' table-- your directions don't provide proof of the change.
It does have a very Tarantino feel to it-- the exuberance and the overbearing style and the over-the-top-ness of it all. But it lacks heart so far. Kill Bill was overbearing and ridiculous and exuberantly over-the-top; but we cared for B. from the very moment we saw her.
I don't care for Grace-- she's cardboard and paint as far as I can see. Now Oti-- he's a card. I like that guy. You've given him something to do. Give Grace the same opportunity alongside of him.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:There can't be any legitimate reason why anyone would take this seriously as an even remotely good idea.
Sure there is. I take Danlo's work seriously because he asked me to when he called for constructive criticism.
It doesn't cost me much to give him advice I believe.
Posted by Hello-Yes (Member # 11577) on :
I am, thought good ideas. Danlo being also, like to me, understanding all of fights in film actions. We are liking him incredible.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
Hmmm, yes? Danlo make super happy fun time read for me and you, yes?
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: Hmmm, yes? Danlo make super happy fun time read for me and you, yes?
You do realize you're mocking someone using a translator, right?
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
Somehow I don't believe that this is actually written . . .
You know, so far the only way I can describe the expression I've had on my face reading this thread is o_0
There's no way this is serious.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
quote:Originally posted by rollainm:
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: Hmmm, yes? Danlo make super happy fun time read for me and you, yes?
You do realize you're mocking someone using a translator, right?
I'm well aware of who they are.
I still say they are not a real person.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
proof i am human
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
Well, technically, that could be anybody...
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Proof of nothing, kiddo.
Sorry.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: Can anyone post Eagleeye or Wanted's first 4 pages?
You should aim higher than the worst of the genre.
Generally speaking, no one's buying dreck from an unknown -- those jobs go to the cousins of studio execs.
If you don't have connections, a name, or an in, you need to have talent.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
Who said you aren't a person?
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Jonas Brothers at the Super Bowl!
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Tman. I sent you the full 10.
lemme know, yo, lemme know.
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
Uh . . . did someone just come in and clean out a lot of this thread? I swear it was longer.
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Yes. Our esteemed thread-starter apparently does not welcome criticism even when he asks for it.
[ October 14, 2008, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: El JT de Spang ]
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
A person sets himself up for disappointment when he declares his own greatness. I don't know "Thor" or "Danlo" or whoever he is. I did not personally enjoy the portions of the screenplay that were posted. I don't know if he has the capacity to write well -- but that was not good writing. It could be that he does have that capacity, in which case my advice to him would be to go back to the beginning and simplify. He has fallen so in love with his own script that he has forgotten to tell the story. He has hashed and re-hashed it so many times that he has lost the line between what he knows about the tale, and what he is communicating to the audience. I recognize the signs. I've done this a few times myself. His mantra should be: "simple and clear, simple and clear, simple and clear, simple and clear...."
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
I find Thor's brand of self-aggrandizement generally distasteful. If you're really great, you don't ever need to tell anyone that.
That said, I had no opinion on the script. I've seen better, and I've seen worse. Additionally, if you don't have a lot of experience reading scripts of movies that actually get made it can be difficult to tell good from bad, or how the page will translate to the screen. This is experience that I know I'm lacking, which is one reason why I didn't offer any criticism.
Posted by Baron Samedi (Member # 9175) on :
Nice. Too bad there's no Academy Award for sucking in your gut. You'd take that in a walk.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Nah...Shatner wins that every year.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
I didn't wipe the thread because of criticism, I wiped it because it was boiling into a "this is so horrible there's no way this person is real' thread.
There is a level of pure cruelness that comes from the internet, where people revel in being very, very mean in a very personal way.
It is like a disease, where people are so angry and unhappy with their own lives they feel the need to try and spread this feeling to others. I don't think anything I've said or done justified the personal attacks, but hey, you feel different.
Don't say I wiped it because I couldn't handle the criticism, I wiped it because I don't want to get kicked off of hatrack, and it was getting to the point where I really didn't know how to respond without resorting to personal attacks too.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
The best way to respond -- and I mean this completely sincerely -- is to make a damn fine movie.
I was being sincere about the offer to fix your typos, BTW. Unless they're in there for artistic effect, it can't hurt to get rid of 'em.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Baron, got any photographs of yourself you'd like to share?
Usually I find when people make fun of someone's looks and weight it is usually because they are so attractive, they have no choice but to inform others of how unattractive they should feel.
I can't tell you how much I regret starting this thread.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
If you regret it so much let it die.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
why?
I still feel like crap in real life
I am still amazed that so many were such total asses
how do I get rid of this feeling?
that behind 50% of smiles are small petty people who really want people to feel like this, who don't know or care what people have been through or are going through,
I've had to counsel someone very close to me in the last few weeks after their suicide attempt, and it has drained me DRY, maybe they are right, the world is filled with mostly cruel people who thrive off making people miserable.
These last few years have been so rough in so many ways, and every where I go, I treat people well, I am nice, kind and considerate and work to do the right things, help others, and the world just gets meaner.
I don't know what to do.
I know it is my idiotic fault, but I swear, Hatrack didn't used to be like this.
my lesson learned.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Thor, if it counts for anything, I think you've got a great eye for cinema and a reasonably photogenic bod. In fact, you're looking better in that picture than in older pictures you've shared with us. The props are probably unnecessary, though. Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
I saw your earlier affirmative reply, and I'm still serious about really liking your art, wanting to buy it, and wanting to help you sell it. How do you want to talk turkey?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
If it helps...and since I missed some of the posts you wiped it may not....the original comment about being a real person wasn't even directed at you, but about another poster who claims to be using a translator to post here.
On the other hand, for someone who waltzes in here and starts bragging about how great he is, you seem to have a remarkably thin skin.
Perhaps you your came across more genuine....like you did the past two comments, to be honest....and left the bombastic, combative bull crap behind people who be more understanding of you, and possibly even more sympathetic to your views. I don't know you IRL...but I have little to base my opinion of you other than your interactions on Hatrack, and some (IMO) really bad screenplay pages...which you claim to be brilliant, possibly your life's work.
You often come across as bombastic, spastic, and often times barely coherent, and are never very open to hearing what others have to say, yet you claim others are mean spirited and petty? Perhaps you should look for the seeds of the same in your own posts.
If you like I could post some specifics, but I don't want to dog pile on you.
This isn't the first time you have some here bragging about a product that still hasn't materialized, claiming you are a wonderful (insert something creative here) with very little to back it up. I believe you even challenged OSC to a writing duel at one point, claiming you would outsell him.
How's that going, BTW?
I don't doubt that pic was really of you, although I have no way of proving it one way or another. You look better than I do, even if the props are a little over the top. Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
You seem like a completely different person now than you did in your original few posts on this thread, which were pretty over the top.
People are always going to react badly to someone who brags about imaginary accomplishments. I'm sorry. I hardly think it's evidence of the cruelty of the world.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
You made hatrack like this. You have made yourself very unlikable. Maybe if you had acted like a person from the beginning you would have been treated kinder.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
quote:You made hatrack like this. You have made yourself very unlikable. Maybe if you had acted like a person from the beginning you would have been treated kinder.
Okay. Are you parodying my post?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Didn't look like he was to me.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I
AM
INDESCRIBABLY
AWESOME
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
No. Hell. I'm no longer awesome. I lost the scripts.
God. I wanted to save them forever.
No.
Noooo.
I lost them.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: Baron, got any photographs of yourself you'd like to share?
Usually I find when people make fun of someone's looks and weight it is usually because they are so attractive, they have no choice but to inform others of how unattractive they should feel.
I can't tell you how much I regret starting this thread.
I often find that people who start threads about their greatness and then get offended when they are made fun of and expect sympathy from me are clueless as to how they appear to others. I felt bad for you when Baron said that... now not so much.
Posted by Unicorn Feelings (Member # 11784) on :
Shazam!
Yeah, ok, you inbred farts, i recognize that the internet makes you feel all big and bad, but I think we know if we stood toe to toe, you'd cry like a baby and blame your mom for poor home schooling, or the kids in gym class who made fun of you for licking the skid marks in your britches.
Your virginity has you down? fine. take it out on me
Frustrated that you're a crappy parent? great! take it out on me
Crappy job got you feeling crappy? take it out on me
You can use excuses like 'He said he was Great', but no, in this instance, my previous alter-ego said I felt the first 10 pages were great for the story.
I don't expect you to understand the nuance, really, Edorkthugs need no explanation.
I liken it to trying to bring Democracy to a country of cockroaches, it is gonna go over like a lead balloon, or a George W Bush presidency.
Some of you kids are so angry at your own personal fusion with absolute averageness, that you feel the need to pull up a high chair and pee pee on things you don't like.
I am trying to write something that the majority of people enjoy and appreciate, odds are I will fail.
At the end of the day, I get to be me, and you are you.
I'm a joke on Hatrack, you're a joke in real life.
Everyone laughs.
Everyone wins!
Yeeee ha!
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
Well, that hiatus was nice while it lasted.
Welcome back, Thor.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Well, that hiatus was nice while it lasted.
Welcome back, Thor.
Or someone pretending to be Thor. That could be him, but it doesn't really sound like him.
Posted by Sharpie (Member # 482) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon:
quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Well, that hiatus was nice while it lasted.
Welcome back, Thor.
Or someone pretending to be Thor. That could be him, but it doesn't really sound like him.
Agreed.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
And this guy capitalizes all of his sentences!
Posted by Unicorn Feelings (Member # 11784) on :
Shall I start quoting the Fountainhead as proof?
"God had been ripped from the great pedestal and in his place was not satan, but the fart residue boys of hatrack who are no larger in real life than their return key masturbating over Sarah Palin's intelligence, wisdom and values while they wait for mommy to take them to the mall."
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
Fake. And whoever is doing it, you're a jerk.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
Danlo, if you happen to come back and see this, I think I'd like to apologize. I didn't happen to like your screenplay, but we all have different tastes. And I do think you should look seriously at whether or not you are communicating to the audience what you intend to communicate. /advice
In this thread, I was less hostile than some, and more hostile than others... But wherever I fall within the ranks of hostility, I was too hostile for my own taste. I should have been more considerate. You don't seem so bad.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Thor, I haven't read the pages yet, but when I do I'll be sure to post my comments. I won't email or give the script to anyone else. ( except I'll show it to my mom.)
I really liked the parts you posted.
I definitely love the way you write. The visuals are so descriptive, I can see the scenes!
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
oh. my. must be a lot of solar activity.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Let's not encourage this.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I'm sorry to "encourage" this and I don't have a lot of background in Asian history (real or not) but I would like to read your script, Thor, and provide criticism (if you are open to it- general or specific).
This is partially for my own benefit, as I am also interested in writing for film (at the moment mostly in an academic way) and would like to test my critical abilities.
My email's in my profile, if you want to send it to me.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Orincoro.
I've seen a photo of you.
Now when I see your name it brings a big smile to my face.
Teshi. gimme a little time, and i will send you some, i welcome all criticism.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
If you knew anything about me, you'd know that I have never kept my identity or my appearance a secret from anyone. You, on the other hand, apparently believe that everyone here is as sensitive about their appearances as you are. If so, I'm very sorry for you.
Posted by TL (Member # 8124) on :
quote: i welcome all criticism.
*blink*
... huh.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Thor...I love my wife and she loves me, we are faithful, we don't have children yet, aren't virgins, and look much like a lot of other 38 year old people...at little overweight, but OK with that.
I don't feel I am average in most ways....and I do feel your writing style here at Hatrack sucks.
I have been here for quite some time, and I don't recall anyone every saying they loved your writing HALF as much as you claim you do. It is one thing to love your own writing, it is another to claim to be able to see your ideas as the best....even better than OSC.
I remember Hatrackers having to send you money to help flee a hurricane...or at least offering to, I don't know if they actually did or not....and I remember your griping about cash vividly. Yet you expect us to believe you didn't sell this wonderful idea you had because of why? A lack of belief in capitalism? I belief that you will somehow be able to fund this movie some other way?
Bullshit.
I don't know you IRL, but I sure the hell am not afraid of you there, or here on Hatrack. I might even like you IRL...who knows.
But here you spend almost all you time bashing others...their religion, their politics, and their taste....and then you have the balls to complain about how THEY treat YOU?
lol
If you would like, I could post links to many, many false claims you have made just regarding your own writing...or at least claims that have little to no proof. I have yet to see anything about you that deserves respect, and there are plenty of things you do and say here that prevent me from extending the benefit of the doubt to you.
Until you lay off the bombastic language and try to deal with people on a more personal level, and stop lambasting people with poorly thought out rhetoric, I doubt many people will change their opinion of you. You seem comfortable enough assuming the worst of everyone who even slightly disagrees with you, so I don't think you have a right to expect any more than that back.
I would rather be 1/2 of me than be 200% of you any day. At least I wouldn't be embarrassing myself by posting my 5th grade writing assignment and claiming it was the best thing ever.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
9/3/1992 Mrs. Walsh, 3rd grade Ori Hatrequero
My Summer Vacation, By Ori
I had a awesome summer vacation. My mom said that my dad was going to take us to Hawaii but he didn't because we were going to my gramma's hours for a wedding for my aunt but when we went I had to sleep on the couch which was noncomfortable my uncle is nice though. Also in the summer we got a dog his name is Billy and I said that was a good name but my sister said he should be fido but I said that was stupid and I got in truble with my mom for saying it was dumb. Later in summer I got sick with the cold flue but it as ok because I got jello lots of jello.
That'll be 200 Thousand Dollars.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
lol
Funny thing is is is more readable. Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
I have made no false claims about my writing, or situations brought on by my writing.
If I believe my latest script has elements of greatness, it is not a false claim. It is an opinion.
It is weird how a religion is allowed to blanketly bash whole groups of people, spend thousands of man hours bashing them and hundreds of millions of dollars bashing them, but oh, I am such a jerk for say stuff like "I saw a picture of Mr. Hinckley standing in front of the big Temple wearing a business suit. That is creepy."
The day Jesus wants me to wear a business suit is the day I switch religions.
You blast me for blasting people who believed in George W. Bush for 8 years and his satanic economic policies? Come on dude. Judge that tree by its fruit, and OSC has been far worse than I on this subject way more often.
Bashing people's tastes? I don't like the Jonas Brothers. Do you?
As far as me claiming to be better than OSC, his body of work is greater than mine for sure, and I don't know if I could ever write something as awesome as Ender's Game.
...but I will take my writing today over his writing today. I think I fell asleep on page 2 of the Ender's Game sequel, and I still laugh when I think of the Nanci Pelosi DEATH MECHA in Empire, though the 1st half was pretty good.
But... if Tom Davidson says I have been an ass and need to apologize, then I have been an ass and need to apologize. He's my common sense barometer here at Hatrack.
So I would like to apologize for being too much of a jerk since my return. Hatrack is filled with a lot of good hearted people and I do not want to bring down the quality of posts or people here.
I lost my composure and my civility at times during some of our passionate discussions here and for that I am sorry. I will try not to sink to those levels again.
I believe all people who believe in God and work to be better people are Christians.
I need to learn to deal better in my discussions with those faiths that make the claim to be the "true" Church of Jesus.
True faith in God rests with each individual, NOT with a church.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
I too am a little overweight atm.
We had 10 gallons of ice cream in the garage freeze the day after thanksgiving. I've whittled it down to 1 gallon left.
Bluebell is one of the greatest ice cream ever.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: but oh, I am such a jerk for say stuff like "I saw a picture of Mr. Hinckley standing in front of the big Temple wearing a business suit. That is creepy."
"Creepy" is bashing a man who died recently, merely because of his choice in clothing.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Sorry. I didn't know he passed away.
If Jesus came back to Earth in a business suit and tie I'd tell Jesus that it was really creepy.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Are suits inherently creepy? Are they more or less creepy than tuxedos?
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I for one, find string ties to be creepy.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Are suits inherently creepy? Are they more or less creepy than tuxedos?
Not to most people.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Jesus in a business suit or Jesus in a tuxedo.
Either one is man's projection of himself onto the Lord.
Jesus wearing either suit is really creepy.
Warren Buffett wearing a suit?
Normal.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I for one, find string ties to be creepy.
I'll have you know that my grandpa wore a string tie.
Jerk! Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Did he speak in a downhome texas drawl and say things like: "you just don't understand how things're dun round here...?"
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Texas has tons of televangelists who love to wear suits and ties.
Joel Osteen, I stated early and often, that it was creepy for him to purchase and preach at a basketball arena in a business suit. The Big sign on the stadium says "Joel Osteen Ministries" I want them to include "Guest starring Jesus."
Some people think Jesus in a business suit and tie is normal, some people think gay Jesus is normal. I guess a relationship with God is the most personal so it is in the eye of the beholder.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Kissing of the Pope's ring is creepy. imo.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: Did he speak in a downhome texas drawl and say things like: "you just don't understand how things're dun round here...?"
Most certainly not.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I withdraw my comment.
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
What is it with "business suit"? A lot of people consider suits to be church wear, not business wear.
If you find an association between church and profit oriented activity to be creepy, I can kind of see your point. But a suit is not that association.
For Jesus to wear a style of clothing mostly associated with Western civilization in the last handful of decades...yeah, that would be odd, because you've got to assume he's got the advantage of divine eternal fashion perspective that the Brooks Brothers lack.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Stylishness is next to godliness?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by scifibum: divine eternal fashion perspective
I don't think there is such a thing. Fashion is by definition and quite deliberately ephemeral. Even "classics" have a pretty short shelf life.
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by scifibum: divine eternal fashion perspective
I don't think there is such a thing. Fashion is by definition and quite deliberately ephemeral. Even "classics" have a pretty short shelf life.
Well, my point was essentially that from Jesus's perspective, the conventions of contemporary dress, even the conservative religious variety, probably aren't applicable. I didn't mean that he's got the inside view of what's really making waves on the catwalks of the cosmos. I would say that an eternal perspective on fashion renders it irrelevant (I think we agree).
That being said, I think the popular image of Christ and other divine figures wearing long flowing white robes is pretty silly too. So by "divine eternal fashion perspective" I also meant figuring out some ideal form of clothing, and I highly doubt it's what classical painters had in mind. (Except where they figured nudity was it...that might be right.)
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:Fashion is by definition and quite deliberately ephemeral.
If God can make a rock He can't lift, He can certainly pick a timeless fashion. Jesus would show up in a little black dress, natch.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
LOL
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: If God can make a rock He can't lift...
But can he?
Discuss.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
I guess the lesson learned is that Jesus Christ is like Mr. Potatohead, you can dress him how you like.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Or even better, don't judge him (or anyone else for that matter) simply by the clothes he wears.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Choosing clothes is an action.
On judgement, I believe Jesus says only God can judge.
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
"Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment." - John 7:24
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Thor, I still eagerly await your screenplay. Did you send it?
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