Yeah. It's that time of the year again, when Gubner Rick Perry of Texas and his Team of White Conservative Christian Republicans are making a heavy push to STOP teaching evolution and teach Creationism in Texas science classes.
Man, that would be an easy test.
"God Created Everything."
A+!
Christ is supposed to be a source or Strength and Wisdom, not some card trick king for bogus political fights that are stupider than talking feces.
I believe in Intelligent Design, and NOTHING I have learned in my awesome Stars and the Universe class has made me think twice about it, most of the info leads to ID imo.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
That's interesting. Next you'll be telling us that you believe in a flat earth, and nothing you learned in your awesome Creative Crotcheting class has made you think twice about it. Personally I would be glad to see some evidence that you've thought once.
Oh, and also: You have nothing to lose but your most cherished beliefs, the ones defining your self and in-group.
[ November 20, 2008, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: King of Men ]
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
I believe that I'm the only live person on Hatrack, and the rest of you are all complex machines developed by the government, learning to think and communicate by interacting with me online.
NOTHING I have learned elsewhere on the internet has made me doubt this, so clearly it must be true.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Too bad you're doing such a bad job of teaching us to think. Maybe you'd better start running before the government decides to terminate the experiment, eh?
Posted by blindsay (Member # 11787) on :
UF, you are still here? I for one love your posts. They are all like puzzles. Trying to decipher what you are trying to say keeps me busy at work.
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Believing in ID and believing it should be taught in the schools are two different things.
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Yes, well? Nobody has said anything about schools.
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
I teach ID to my students all the time. Everytime we study a new culture I try to teach their creation story. But that is social studies, where it belongs.
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
I notice that a lot of the time when people say they believe/teach "ID" they specifically mean something different than what is commonly referred to as ID.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I don't think that saying science hasn't disproven ID is the same as saying it HAS disproven other possibilities. He's saying that evolution should stay in the classrooms. What's wrong with that?
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Teaching ID in a science class is just plain ridiculous. I say that as both a Christian and a science teacher.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I believe you can "teach" it in the way we teach Hitler was wrong.
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I believe you can "teach" it in the way we teach Hitler was wrong.
You've managed to open a completely unrelated can of worms and make an undecipherable analogy at the same time.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
It looks like he is saying Hitler didn't do any wrong.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:Originally posted by King of Men: Yes, well? Nobody has said anything about schools.
Actually, in his initial post, UF said:
quote:It's that time of the year again, when Gubner Rick Perry of Texas and his Team of White Conservative Christian Republicans are making a heavy push to STOP teaching evolution and teach Creationism in Texas science classes.
Posted by Mercury (Member # 11822) on :
I was taught both intelligent design and evolution in school. So far my head hasn't exploded.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by neo-dragon: Teaching ID in a science class is just plain ridiculous. I say that as both a Christian and a science teacher.
The whole thing is ridiculous even if you opt out of the whole misinterpretation of the word "theory," and jump to the most easily identifiable problem with ID: it has nothing useful to teach, and requires no attention in the classroom whatsoever.
In fact, ID can and should be addressed in a science classroom, in the chapter of the book (probably chapter 1) that explains why it is not useful in science.
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: It looks like he is saying Hitler didn't do any wrong.
The interpretation I got is that he is saying, similar to how we can teach the things Hitler said and the concepts that he presented while objectively teaching that he was wrong, we can similarly teach the things that ID says and the concepts it presents while objectively teaching that it is wrong.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
Rick Perry isn't talking about teaching Intelligent Design in class, he wants to teach Creationism, and the Head of the Education Board in Texas is a long time dentist and Anti-Evolutionist.
I believe in many ways evolution goes hand in hand with Intelligent Design, there was probably sometime of Big Bang, but saying there was a big bang doesn't invalidate Genesis. Unless, I guess, you believe God 'Created' Earth in 7 days like, POOF!
Anyone remember when the Catholic Church used to persecute people for suggestion that Earth wasn't the center of our solar system. Don't question the Church. They talk to God. God knows all. Earth revolving around the Sun is a lie of the Liberal Media. Dun be Fooled! Vote PALIN!
Posted by JLM (Member # 7800) on :
I don't believe in ID. I believe in EGO. (And SUPEREGO to a lesser extent)
And by the way, can't you all learn to ignore UF's vain attempts at irony.
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
quote:God knows all. Earth revolving around the Sun is a lie of the Liberal Media. Dun be Fooled! Vote PALIN!
You're not actually capable about talking about others' views without constructing a strawman first, are you?
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
Gah. I'm sorry I posted in this thread instead of letting it fall into obscurity as it deserved. I should have known better than to expect UF to engage in debate.
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
quote:Originally posted by JLM: I don't believe in ID. I believe in EGO. (And SUPEREGO to a lesser extent)
And by the way, can't you all learn to ignore UF's vain attempts at irony.
Uh. Who are you?
The Vain police? Kick ass.
Do you like monkeys?
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
So. One of the Women on the Board of Education of Texas who is pushing to throw out evolution in science class and replace it with Creationism, this kind woman let lose a tirade about America doesn't know what's good for it because they elected a President who isn't even a US Citizen.
Yeah. She said it. Barack Obama is not a US CITIZEN.
wow. just, wow.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Link?
Posted by Danlo the Wild (Member # 5378) on :
"Cynthia Dunbar’s phone hasn’t stopped ringing since the presidential election, but the questions being asked of the State Board of Education representative have nothing to do with textbooks or curriculum.
Dunbar, of Richmond in Fort Bend County, posted a column titled "Freedoms Will Be At Risk Under President Obama," on the Christian Worldview Network Web site two days before the election.
The column questioned whether Obama is a U.S. citizen as well as whether his presidency might bring on a terrorist attack "by those with whom Obama truly sympathizes" and suspension of rights under martial law. It has since been pulled from the site."
I saw where she'd said that his presidency might bring a terrorist attack; none of the other articles I saw mentioned that she said he wasn't a US citizen.
Thanks, though. It looks like lots of people oppose her viewpoint.