I'm not sure how many of you have been watching the news, but we have a living Hegemon, as was characterized in the book, Shadow of the Hegemon.
The Hegemon's name and influence was throughout the world, yet not recognized as having direct power and influence over all nations, because of land and power divisions, and government successions.
What we have now is a brand new president, who's name and influence is being seen throughout the entire world. Strong national powers and governments have come on the news as having faith in President Obama's power to affect the world, that is when it comes to world issues they rely on President Obama.
According to what I've been seeing and hearing on the news, the only difference in the Hegemon, and President Obama is direct influence vs. implied or expected influence.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
:yawn:
:rolls over:
:scratches self:
Posted by Trent Destian (Member # 11653) on :
Well...alright then.
Welcome to Hatrack. Good Luck.
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
President Obama is certainly not the living Hegemon. He is a brand new President in the honeymoon period. Let's see where he is in 100 days and after 4 years.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Has there been an American president since FDR that this hasn't been the case for?
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Anyone who has studied the issue carefully knows that Obama is certainly not qualified to be the living hegemon.
He lacks the most important quality for that title-- in fact, Barack Hussein Obama is one of the undead.
That's right. He's a vampire.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
If you're making the argument that the world essentially exists -- unwillingly -- under an American hegemony, I think there's some merit to that. But I don't think it's something remotely new.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: That's right. He's a vampire.
:: nods :: Why the mainstream media didn't put this together when he had all of the mirrors removed from the White House, I'm not sure. You'd also think that they'd have been suspicious when he had that large box of Hawaiian soil shipped in.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Yes, but is he a Christian vampire or is he a secret Muslim vampire?
The American people have a right to know: if our newly elected President comes swooping down through the night to drain us of our blood and turn us into his undead thralls, can we drive him off with a crucifix or not? I would never have voted for him if I thought I was not adequately prepared to shield my self from his unholy hunger.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Obviously, the fact that he put his hand on the bible during his inauguration is proof that he's a secret Muslim vampire. It's the Koran that burns his flesh.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
quote:That's right. He's a vampire.
Well, he's certainly not the sparkly-type. Maybe he's the angsty-tortured-soul kind.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Squicky, it's ridiculous to think that Obama's religion makes a difference in how to drive him away; I have to really wonder about your motives in bringing that particular topic up.
OF COURSE it doesn't matter what religion he is-- any sacred symbol should do fine in warding him off.
On that note: some experts agree that a particularly powerful vampire, such as Obama almost certainly is, may be immune to holy symbols entirely. Powerful undead do not suffer, for example, when presented with relics presented by faithless, quivering fair-weather faithful. But someone of true belief is an agony to them-- see 'Salem's Lot' for details.
EDIT: The fact that he placed his hand on the Bible to take the oath affirms the above. Who was holding the Bible? Some weak-kneed, panty-waist who couldn't even get the oath right.
You see?
[ January 23, 2009, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: Scott R ]
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Scott, I have to wonder at your motives for disseminating such dangerous misinformation.
While the Protestant literary elite may want to promote their iconoclasism by claiming that the power lies solely in faith and not in the symbols, that's just their anti-Catholic bias coming out.
And I'll bet a lot of them deep down want the vampires to win.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
ROFL
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
You guys are... uh... killing me.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
FOOLS!
Obama is a TWILIGHT vampire. Garlic? Korans? How elementary of you all...
Obama uses his vampiric prowess to woo teenage girls, enjoy a startling amount of charisma, and to posses superhuman strength.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Twilightism is just a phase that some middle age vampires go through to convince themselves that they are still young. So they buy a sports car, put on body glitter, and start hanging around high schools trying to pick up naive 16 year olds who think that having an older boyfriend makes them mature. It's all pretty pathetic.
A vampire so insecure in himself would never have been able to resist the dark magics that John McCain has at his command.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: ... Powerful undead do not suffer, for example, when presented with relics presented by faithless, quivering fair-weather faithful. But someone of true belief is an agony to them-- see 'Salem's Lot' for details.
Even pretty lowly vampires can withstand the slight burning effect of Bibles or crosses, easily knocking them away. As evidenced by Buffy and Angel, if we really need to ward off Obama we need to afflict him not with weapons or symbols, but with angst.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
See my edit.
Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: ... Powerful undead do not suffer, for example, when presented with relics presented by faithless, quivering fair-weather faithful. But someone of true belief is an agony to them-- see 'Salem's Lot' for details.
Even pretty lowly vampires can withstand the slight burning effect of Bibles or crosses, easily knocking them away. As evidenced by Buffy and Angel, if we really need to ward off Obama we need to afflict him not with weapons or symbols, but with angst.
Your example doesn't support your thesis. Angst doesn't ward off vampires. It makes them first curious, then tame, then lovelorn, and finally brings them fully into the angst fold as well.
Angst is the Vampire Borg. And the Slayer is its Queen.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: ... It makes them first curious, then tame, then lovelorn, and finally brings them fully into the angst fold as well.
And then they run off to LA. I find LA to be sufficiently warded off.
Posted by lobo (Member # 1761) on :
"Obama uses his vampiric prowess to woo teenage girls, enjoy a startling amount of charisma, and to posses superhuman strength."
That was Clinton...
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Originally posted by MrSquicky: Has there been an American president since FDR that this hasn't been the case for?
Up until the end of the Cold War and collapse of the Soviet Union, it would be hard to make a case for global American Hegemony. But that still leaves 3 past presidents who could reasonably be considered to have been global hegemons.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
quote:Originally posted by lobo: "Obama uses his vampiric prowess to woo teenage girls, enjoy a startling amount of charisma, and to posses superhuman strength."
That was Clinton...
...the loving Hegemon.
Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: ... It makes them first curious, then tame, then lovelorn, and finally brings them fully into the angst fold as well.
And then they run off to LA. I find LA to be sufficiently warded off.
Only some of them. The others stick around for years and years, and when they run off in angry angsty tears, it's only so they can come back a few months later and mope some more.
That being said, eventually the former and the latter end up in entertaining fights to the death and lots of biting (no pun intended), slightly homoerotic banter, so it all evens out in the end. Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: ... It makes them first curious, then tame, then lovelorn, and finally brings them fully into the angst fold as well.
And then they run off to LA. I find LA to be sufficiently warded off.
Thanks bunches. Posted by The White Whale (Member # 6594) on :
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: That's right. He's a vampire.
He gave his Inauguration Speech in the daytime sun. Although he could have been wearing the Gem of of Amarra.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by The White Whale:
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: That's right. He's a vampire.
He gave his Inauguration Speech in the daytime sun. Although he could have been wearing the Gem of of Amarra.
That was the CNN hologram Obama.
The REAL Obama had a secret Wednesday inauguration in the dark caverns of the White House.
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
If Obama is a vampire, and If he chose a very specific holy relic to use in a ceremony,
then we can deduce that the holy relic in question is tainted by vampirism.
Who could taint the holy relic but some other vampire who used it before.
Hence, it must be conceded that Lincoln was a Vampire.
For further proof, he led the country into its bloodiest war--well, bloodiest war fought close enough so the blood could feed the vampiric hordes.
For further proof, he was the first Republican president, and its been shown that all Republican politicians are vampires.
It seems that by being Bi-Partisan, Hegemon Vampire Obama is simply willing to drink the blood from the left and the right.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: ... That being said, eventually the former and the latter end up in entertaining fights to the death and lots of biting (no pun intended), slightly homoerotic banter, so it all evens out in the end.
The end, which happens to take place *away* in LA Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Obama was criticized during the campaign for making a disproportionately smaller number of campaign trips to Florida, and after he secured the nomination, often sent Clinton or other Democratic surrogates in his place to stump there.
I guess it makes sense that he'd stay away from the Sunshine State though, given his particular affliction.
And obviously the first American vampires were Henry Clay and John Calhoun. They must have been like 200 years old when they finally bit the dust.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Obama is scheduled to come to Trinidad for the Summit of the Americas in April. We don't have any holo projectors down here and the tropical sun will be quite intense this close to the equator at the equinox.
I'll keep a close eye on the situation. If he stays hidden during the daylight hours we'll know something is up.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Rabbit: Obama is scheduled to come to Trinidad for the Summit of the Americas in April. We don't have any holo projectors down here and the tropical sun will be quite intense this close to the equator at the equinox.
I'll keep a close eye on the situation. If he stays hidden during the daylight hours we'll know something is up.
::nods wisely:: Sounds agreeable.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
Now we know why he wanted all those millions of people at the inaugeration. I bet he sucked a few of them dry. Are there any reports of missing people?
Mabye that's why Ted Kennedy went to the hospital, Obama got interupted in the middle. It would explaine why Caroline Kennedy doesn't want to be in Washington anymore.
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
Sigh...
Hatrack used to be such a welcoming place. Now we all seem to be sarcastic, embittered, cynical curmudgeons. What's wrong with the world?
(In all honesty, the sarcastic, embittered and cynical tone resonates strongly with my own personality and I read threads like this and Blayne's laptop/screen issue with guilty pleasure).
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Obviously, the strain of indentifying the Undead among us has put us all in a bad mood.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
I think we're just jealous...Vampires seem to have way more fun...
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Now we all seem to be sarcastic, embittered, cynical curmudgeons.
i wish Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mucus:
quote:Originally posted by Tarrsk: ... That being said, eventually the former and the latter end up in entertaining fights to the death and lots of biting (no pun intended), slightly homoerotic banter, so it all evens out in the end.
The end, which happens to take place *away* in LA
Damn your logic and impeccable memory!
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
The Blade franchise of movies leads me to believe that Obama must be the Daywalker type of vampire, probably only half-vampire (although it only takes a drop of vampire blood makes you a vampire).
My hope is that he single-handedly solves many of the wold's conflicts with some awesome yet unlikely weaponry developed by a gruff old man who loves him like a son.
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
quote:My hope is that he single-handedly solves many of the wold's conflicts with some awesome yet unlikely weaponry developed by a gruff old man who loves him like a son.
Cheney? Clinton? Carter?? Blagoyovich?
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
Actually, in an ironic twist of fate, it turns out to be McCain!
He secured the Republican nomination, then chose Palin as his running mate in order to assure Obama's victory. He knew that we need a Daywalker president who can solve foreign crises with some awesome ninja moves and a machine gun that shoots silver-garlic bullets.
So let me get things straight here . . . President Barrack H. Obama is now a Daywalking Vampire- only Half Vampire- who patrols the streets fighting crime?
The world is entranced with the Vampire twinkle in his eyes. I bet that's only a cover. Maybe he's not a Vampire or human at all. I think he jumps into his very sophistocated President Obama suit every morning. I think he's Pinky and The Brain- trying to take over the world! Those little mice will out think us all! They must be thwarted at once! Does anyone know the address to Acme Labs? I need to talk with the care taker or maybe the head scientist, to see if they're missing two ambitious mice.
Posted by DC Morphis (Member # 11929) on :
<his very sophistocated President Obama suit>
Had to correct myself- he's wearing a sophisticated President Obama suit. Then again, it's not just a he, because it's really a couple of mice, one is a genius, the other insane.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by DC Morphis: <his very sophistocated President Obama suit>
Had to correct myself- he's wearing a sophisticated President Obama suit. Then again, it's not just a he, because it's really a couple of mice, one is a genius, the other insane.
*sings* To prove his mousy worth, he'll overthrow the earth!*/sings*
I'm not sure he is a vampire but clearly his family is into Voodoo, why else would the first lady get so upset over it?
Posted by DC Morphis (Member # 11929) on :
Maybe she's into HooDoo . . . ever see that Skeleton Key movie? It's only real if you believe! She's trying to slip HooDoo culture into the US communities so she can eventually use it to take over the presidency by first trapping Hilary Clinton's body in a mirror or something.
That's it! They are both into HooDoo, and are really hundreds of years old. I wonder who's bodies they will steal next.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
Thanks Orlox! I'll get right on it- to save the world!
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dobbie: Does anybody know if Hilary Clinton had the chance to turn Lincoln's bible into a horcrux?
::snort::
Nice.
Posted by Pennie-Lain (Member # 11932) on :
This is much more entertaining than if this was a Hegemon thread
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by DC Morphis: Had to correct myself- he's wearing a sophisticated President Obama suit. Then again, it's not just a he, because it's really a couple of mice, one is a genius, the other insane.
You mean Broomfondle and Magic-Thighs?
Posted by The Pixiest (Member # 1863) on :
quote:Originally posted by Noemon: Obviously, the fact that he put his hand on the bible during his inauguration is proof that he's a secret Muslim vampire. It's the Koran that burns his flesh.
Well, ONE of his inaugurations anyway... And if you'd looked more closely, you would have seen it was a copy of Moby Dick.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I'd have more respect for someone who swore on Melville than someone who swore on the bible. At least Melville is almost readable.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I'd have more respect for someone who swore on Melville than someone who swore on the bible. At least Melville is almost readable.
I completely disagree. I read an abridged version of Moby Dick when I was younger and I thought, "Hey this isn't so bad! I should just read the original version." Buh-hoy was I wrong.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I said "almost" readable. I have yet to encounter a page in the Bible that offers a moment of enjoyment.
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
I like all of Galatians. Ephesians is nice. Some of the Psalms are cool. All the Gospels, but especially the opening of John.
And I vaguely remember an Old Testament story from Sunday School where a guy broke into the evil king's bedroom and stabbed him in the gut with a sword. The evil king was so fat that the folds of skin enveloped the sword hilt. The guards didn't know what was wrong with him, and the murderer got away. I have no idea where that's from, but I'm almost positive that's really in the Bible.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
I'd buy that. I wouldn't make a religion out of it...
Call me Ismael.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
quote:And I vaguely remember an Old Testament story from Sunday School where a guy broke into the evil king's bedroom and stabbed him in the gut with a sword. The evil king was so fat that the folds of skin enveloped the sword hilt. The guards didn't know what was wrong with him, and the murderer got away. I have no idea where that's from, but I'm almost positive that's really in the Bible.
Check out Judges 3:12-30
Posted by AvidReader (Member # 6007) on :
Thanks, adenam! I was wrong about the breaking in bit, but I like that Ehud was able to draw a sword on the guy because he was left-handed and Eglon didn't expect it.
I still have no idea why that story appealed to me so much as a kid, but it did.
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