I don't know how long this will be available before ESPN has it pulled from YouTube - but the restraint of the BYU soccer team in not retaliating in this situation was unbelievable.
The player in question shouled be banned from NCAA soccer permenantly.
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Looks like she has been banned indefinitely... should be permanent, imo.
I've always felt NCAA and pro sports take too lenient a role in this sort of egregious fouling. At best she should be out half a season, and that would just be the league's punishment.
There are bound to be so many other young women hungry for her spot who wouldn't be major assholes like this.
ETA: Holy cow! (No pun intended) I didn't realize this was multiple flagrant offenses. Yeah, banning indefinitely is definitely called for. A better question is, why was she still playing after whichever came first, the hair yank or the chop to what looked to be either the face or throat? Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:"Liz is a quality student-athlete, but in this instance her actions clearly crossed the line of fair play and good sportsmanship," Vela said.
Man, like hell she is!
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Where were the refs when this was happening? She should have been given a red card when she pulled the BYU player to the ground by her pony tail.
Honestly, questions seriously need to be raised about the referees. It is well known that violence in games escalates when referees don't call it and given the multiple offenses this player committed in this game its clear the refs weren't doing their job. Its just lucky someone wasn't seriously injured.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
quote:Lambert said. "This is in no way indicative of my character or the soccer player that I am.
Umm, no.
Even if you have never done anything like this before, the fact that you did indeed do it indicates something about your character and the kind of soccer player you are.
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Yes, the referees should be closely looked at and reprimanded/punished as well. For her to commit all of those flagrant offenses, and at the end of the game come away only with a single yellow card is totally unacceptable.
Posted by natural_mystic (Member # 11760) on :
The hair pulling and the chop following the clearance are red cards. Very hard for a referee to catch the latter in real-time, tho. I think that anything beyond a 3-5 game suspension would be excessive.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Where the refs screwed up was the slide tackle from behind (where Lambert goes through the girl's legs to get the ball at 0:35 at the you tube video). Lambert should have been red carded for that alone, and immediately. When I was a ref, that was an automatic red card, even if you got all ball.
The hair pulling was away from the ball and the ref's eyes were likely elsewhere, but there's no way he didn't see her go through the other girl's legs from behind to play the ball.
Posted by natural_mystic (Member # 11760) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jim-Me: Where the refs screwed up was the slide tackle from behind (where Lambert goes through the girl's legs to get the ball at 0:35 at the you tube video). Lambert should have been red carded for that alone, and immediately. When I was a ref, that was an automatic red card, even if you got all ball.
Not to me, at this level. The other girl is just trying to shield the ball, and is late to do so at that. I have been involved in leagues where that would be a red card, tho.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Admittedly NTSA is a whole different animal from NCAA, yes.
Posted by swampfrog (Member # 11690) on :
It's all a matter of how far you let others actions take you. It's unfortunate in many sports that players try to goad one another into escalating too far. 2 videos worth watching:
What you do when someone is trying to get in your head Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Sure, there's some provoking going on-she digs her elbow into the woman's chest, and in response the woman gives a nearly full-force punch right to the middle of her back. And then the woman in response to having her shorts tugged a bit apparently does her best to give the other woman whiplash.
Posted by swampfrog (Member # 11690) on :
If I implied that I was justifying the reaction of the New Mexico player, I did not intend to. She escalated to an unacceptable and intolerable level.
I was just lamenting that this provoking behavior is tolerated at all, and even has become the norm in many college and professional athletics. It need not be that way, and subtracts from the contest.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Hmm, I didn't mean that you thought the reaction was justified-just that the shorts-tugging and elbow dig were provocations intending to provoke a disproportionate response.
Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
Pretty crazy for the women's game. I've seen crazier things at a junior college men's soccer game, but not by much. Heck, I even got photos of one of our team's players slapping another team's player.
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