Bakemonogatari released 14 episodes, a series based on a light novel is basically 'Goodbye Mr Despair' meets XXX Holic, it has the whole mind screwy epilipsy endusing animation where it goes back and forth between freaky and surreal at the drop of a hat and has a nifty 'nice guy who solves supernatural problems' plot to it that I tend to really like and maintains a certain degree of respect towards the 'oddities' where on the sliding scale of mundane vs fantastic setting its very much towards 'the world is pretty normal but with exceptions that don't bother the world as a whole' so it makes the supernaturals that DO appear even freakier and scarier, something that is to me a pretty amazing balance.
itsuki Nozomo's Seiyuu is here as the protagonist which is cool.
Followed next by an anime of no relation 'katanagatari' (Sword Story) which is as close to a western saturday morning cartoon in Japan as you can get, heck even the animation style is distinctly unique (and kinda westernish) kinda a cross between Samurai Jack and Jackie Chan Adventures so if you liked either of those you will love this.
The plot is interesting its the 17th century Japan, peace and prosperity reigns but there's 12 mystical swords scattered about Japan that are so powerful that a single sword can shatter armies and the Shogun tasked the strategist Tomare (her seiyuu played Nanoha and Rika Furude) to find them, the Ninja's she had betrayed her and the swordsman she hired as well, so now shes hiring a swordsman whose style doesn't require the use of swords (kinda like a D&D monk) who will work because 'he will fall in love with me' (Tomare is female just so you know).
The story distinctly reminds me of Western cartoons in style, story and plot that its scary.
K-On!! basically the oddly named sequel to K-On! About a group of friends in a Light Music club, slice of life, good music, funny cute humor watch it to mellow out after watching Bakemonogatari.
Kampfer: Hehehe ha ha, firmly in the guilty pleasure department, guy gets dragged into some sort of kill em all battle royal between 'Kampfers' and becomes one, twist is that Kampfers can only be female so he becomes female whenever his power activates, lots of gratuitous german and yuri watch it just so you can watch it again in the Abridged Series being worked on by LittleKoribo.
Haruhi Suzumiya News: A 'preview' of the 10th light novel "The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya" is availiable now you can find a link somewhere at the animesuki forums, very interesting, I'm totally hyped up now for when its released sometime this year around decemberish.
Also, the Haruhi Suzumiya Abridged Series by FullmetalChao is hilarious.
Liar Game: A long running manga that is yet to finish basically if you liked Kaiji, Battle Royale and Death Note essentially if you like psychological thrillers where people are lying and scheming against each other to win huge amounts of money to clear previous debts then you'll like Liar Game, though the anvilicious christian undertones get kinda obvious midway through and YMMV if it crosses into the annoyance territory.
Nothing of course is explicitly mentioned but phrases like 'only by doing this can you be saved' with clear contextual emphasis on 'saved' start firing off warning sirens in my mind, though the in universe context means to be able to leave the Liar Game debt free while the main character keeps on in the Liar Game accumulating debt to 'save' everyone else and suffering for their idiocy of ending up there in the first place.
What do you mean it's not symbolic!?
Kaiji: Kinda like Liar Game, basically our hero is in debt, keeps getting into bigger debt has to gamble his way out of it by finding ways of bending the rules or finding clever loopholes in the game (either through outright but clever cheating to simply finding legal exploits to put things in his favor even if only slightly) to win massive payoffs of money.
Note: This is the only series where 'moe' can be ever be attributed to a male character, just look at him when things get bad!
Note 2: The games they play are and I am not making this up relatively simple every day games like rock paper scissors and dice! Standard gambling games!
Mahou Sensei Negima: Finally starting to read the manga on this after a slightly bad first impression with the first few episodes of the anime, decided to trust the jabber that it gets better and more shonenish as things progress so yeah so far so good.
Kannagi: Very interesting, mostly slice of life but resolves around the struggle of two competing local deities to remain relevant in modern Japanese society unfortunately the anime doesn't really finish the story as the manga wasn't done yet, hopefully it'll get a sequel.
Toradora!: Its Toradorable! (smack) Okay okay, fun anime includes our favorite Seiyuu Rie "Queen of Tsundere's" Kamigiya slice of life comedy, Rie is as fun to watch as ever.
To Love Ru: Working my way through it, apparantly there was some creator breakdown near the end of it so it doesn't really finish off properly which is affecting my ability to watch it, hard to explain I don't kinda wanna get attached to something that may not end properly y'know?
Slice of Life but with a female alien galactic princess who legally becomes the fiancée of the protagonist when he accidentally fondles her which is a valid marriage proposal in her world, Hilarity Ensures!
Kanokon: *grin* All you need to know. The most triumphant example of gratuitous fanservice, I THINK the plot resolves around a female 400 year old Fox Demon trying to get into the pants of a innocent 14 year old Cute Shotaro Boy from the countryside while dealing with school and the odd challenger, whether there is an actual plot I have yet to figure out but apparantly the manga/light novel does swerve that way eventually.
Worth watching for the Wolf Demon Rie/Nagato expy naming off, lampshading and acting out ero-game tropes to get into the pants of the aboveforementioned 14 year old while remaining pretty emotionless.
Sketchbook Full Colours: Slice of Life comedy with them being in a painting/art club gimmick and I like slice of life anime's with a gimmick, also includes the most hilarious attempt at Surprisingly Good English ever attempted with the seiyuu not only legitimately sounding like a native Canadian speaker (From Toronto Take That!! ) but also pulls off the amazing stunt of sounding FOREIGN and BADLY ACCENTED when speaking Japanese, I give props to that for effort.
Awesome. Absolutely nails the native Torontian accent.
Bleach: As of now they are finally fighting Aizen and it is awesome (in the manga) in the Anime they're finally back to the canon arc with the ichigo vs uriquiella fight. YAY!.
Simoun: Yuri anime where female pilots must defend the Holy Land from Infidels! But must powerup their Lost Technology aircraft by passionately kissing their female copilots.
Did I mention that both pilots are female?
What was the plot again I got distracted by the kissing.
The plot and story could very well be horrible and I wouldn't notice.
Gotta work on finishing Mnemosyne and Darker Then Black.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
quote:Simoun: Yuri anime where female pilots must defend the Holy Land from Infidels! But must powerup their Lost Technology aircraft by passionately kissing their female copilots.
Did I mention that both pilots are female?
Thanks for keeping it classy, Japan.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
No no no totally incorrect, what you meant to say is "Japan. If you can imagine it, we can imagine it getting raped by an octopus."
I see nothing wrong with girls love being honestly up and front and center focus of a cartoon show, its hot and its cute, its open minded.
Imagine if they animated Torchwood you would get a similar effect (though you would need to account for that 99% of Yuri anime isn't dark and edgy, only Mnemosyne is, heck Mnemosyne is a Japanese version of Torchwood would be a good description!).
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
What, no Naruto update? Oh, right, it sucks now. *angry eyes*
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
No no no not true, the Manga is coming along just fine and the Anime seems to have perfected the correct ratio of filler to canon to spread out the series so overall Shippuden is superior to the original series and its good to see Naruto increasingly getting more mature, Naruto just sorta slipped my mind as I was waiting for more episodes to be released before watching it all at once.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Yeah Katanagatari is now squarely in my top 5 anime's of all time, it has the style and story of the good western cartoons but with the dark and edgy maturity that only Anime tends to have (Avatar Last Airbender and Samurai Jack notwithstanding) as in casual murder, cold blooded torture, gore, blood etc oh and mood dissonance as most of that was done by a 14 year old girl who never ceased her polite soft spoken expression!
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
Blayne,
Any new Sci-Fi anime out there I should see? I liked Heroic Age (Mostly because the musical score was so amazing) but I want something else. Ergo Proxy/Wolf's Rain style. Any ideas?
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Re: Naruto: I gave up on the anime a long time ago so I can't comment on it. But as for the manga, I can't help but feel like Kishi enjoys inventing new characters more than he likes using the ones he has. Which bugs me.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geraine: Blayne,
Any new Sci-Fi anime out there I should see? I liked Heroic Age (Mostly because the musical score was so amazing) but I want something else. Ergo Proxy/Wolf's Rain style. Any ideas?
*thinking*
Legend of Galactic Heroes is allegedly a pretty good space opera with realistic 'history in the making' story telling, kinda like an Anime version of Babylon 5.
To Love Ru is technically Scifi though fanservicy.
Haruhi Suzumiya has Time Travel, Espers, and Aliens (to the point I would consider it interchangeable with Doctor Who) so you should give that a try and then read the light novels.
Full Metal Panic is good military mecha scifi as well as Code Geass.
Gunslinger Girl is probably scifi.
Kino's Journey and Allison and Lilia are also good.
And of course Mnemosyne is also Scifi.
Now question is are you looking specifically for 'scifi' as in nuts and bolts or are you okay with anything mature with deep psychological mind screw undertones?
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
I hear Bakuman is getting an anime this year, any truth to this?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Yup.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I gotta start watching The Abridged Series more often now, Haruhi Abridged and Kyon Abridged were hilarious and Kampfer Abridged has alot of potential.
SCREW THE RULES I HAVE MONEY.
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I see nothing wrong with girls love being honestly up and front and center focus of a cartoon show, its hot and its cute, its open minded.
I think if the contortion to achieving that end is that it's necessary for the pilots to make out to power-up their craft, it's basically fan service. Make of that what you will, I wouldn't pin virtues like honesty and open-mindedness to it.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I respectfully disagree, fanservice or not it is nevertheless an actually and fairly major part of the plot.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Lesbian porn is also not open-minded.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I respectfully disagree, fanservice or not it is nevertheless an actually and fairly major part of the plot.
You kinda damned yourself with your own words.
quote: What was the plot again I got distracted by the kissing.
The plot and story could very well be horrible and I wouldn't notice.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Honestly, a lot of the new anime that's been coming out has made me feel dirty just hearing about it.
I dunno what's going on, but too many of the things I've been seeing these last few seasons just seem to me to be pandering in a gross sexual way.
Why else would there be something like this on television right now, for example?
Now, it's not that I'm a prude or anything like that, far from it, but come on.
This season we have shows like Dance in the Vampire Bund or whatever it's called, starring a sexualized pre-adolescent vampire (admittedly, something of a common theme for studio Shaft, which also made Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase. I am honestly convinced the guy in charge there has to be a pedophile) Chu-bra, which is about, and God I wish I was making this up, a high school girl's panties club.
That's three of the shows of the current season. Maybe I've only heard about the bad ones, though.
What's good to look forward to this year in anime, anyway?
Does anyone know any halfway decent new shows?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:Honestly, a lot of the new anime that's been coming out has made me feel dirty just hearing about it.
To be fair, a lot of old anime made me feel dirty just hearing about it.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Very true as well!
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Dance in the Vampire Bund? *laugh*
You know, I've seen a few anime that have incest in some form, and they always try to justify it by saying that the two people in question aren't related by blood, so it's okay. As if the emotional bonds and relations have nothing to do with it.
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Yeah, I know what that means, and it makes sense, but it's still a weird title.
And yeah. The one I linked to without saying its name in my above post... is one of those. Sigh.
I mean, I like anime. I have a fairly large number of series, and have seen, erm, hundreds of separate series. But good lord there's some weird stuff out there...
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I, on the other hand, had no clue what the definition of "bund" was. I just thought it sounded hilari-diculous.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by PSI Teleport:
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: I respectfully disagree, fanservice or not it is nevertheless an actually and fairly major part of the plot.
You kinda damned yourself with your own words.
quote: What was the plot again I got distracted by the kissing.
The plot and story could very well be horrible and I wouldn't notice.
Ever hear the phrase tongue in cheek?
"Honestly, a lot of the new anime that's been coming out has made me feel dirty just hearing about it."
Examples? About most of my examples are new but aren't embarrassing for you to watch, Katanagatari is basically Kenshin meets jackie Chan adventures, Bakemonogatari is kinda like tv version of Dresden Files, looking at the current list under discussion at AnimeSuki I only see about maybe 2 titles that I know of of suspiscious nature.
quote:Dance in the Vampire Bund? *laugh*
You know, I've seen a few anime that have incest in some form, and they always try to justify it by saying that the two people in question aren't related by blood, so it's okay. As if the emotional bonds and relations have nothing to do with it.
The animes&mangas willing to not go as far as actual incest usually are willing to deal with it in a somewhat mature fashion (as in deal with its consequences more indepth though still within their cultural norms) unless its intentionally supposed to be creepy, considering the Japanese have a myth/fairy tale where starcrossed lovers get reincarnated as siblings its understandable as to why an entirely different culture from yours would find sibling crushes endearing/cute or as more hardcore Otaku then me say it... Kawaii~
As for there being alot of weird stuff... Eh thats only appearances, different cultures have different things, Japan just simply has a larger visual medium pentration with a greater openess to animate it so it gives the appearance of being alot more weird stuff but I don't think Japan has anything excessive in its mainstream media.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by PSI Teleport: I, on the other hand, had no clue what the definition of "bund" was. I just thought it sounded hilari-diculous.
Gratuitous German comes second place to Gratuitous English, speaking of.
Seriously, Blayne, for the love of most of my forummates' Christian God, don't defend the incest.
You don't need to defend Japan's culture here. Trust me in that.
At least you didn't defend the loli.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
quote: its understandable as to why an entirely different culture from yours would find sibling crushes endearing/cute or as more hardcore Otaku then me say it... Kawaii~
I'm giggling at the arrogance in the phrase "an entirely different culture from yours." Get back to me when you learn something about my life.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, my problem isn't the sibling "crushes." It's the celebration of the often massive power disparities possible in those relationships, coupled with a tradition that often glorifies the humiliation and degradation of the female partner. If siblings were just "crushing" on each other, I wouldn't be so disgusted.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by PSI Teleport:
quote: its understandable as to why an entirely different culture from yours would find sibling crushes endearing/cute or as more hardcore Otaku then me say it... Kawaii~
I'm giggling at the arrogance in the phrase "an entirely different culture from yours." Get back to me when you learn something about my life.
What your saying is just as arrogant, my assumption is that your American and that is what you are until proven otherwise, if you decide to be whiny and not correct the assumption that is entirely your fault.
quote:Seriously, Blayne, for the love of most of my forummates' Christian God, don't defend the incest.
You don't need to defend Japan's culture here. Trust me in that.
At least you didn't defend the loli.
I didn't think I was, only explaining why it tends to be popular based on a certain level of cultural acceptance behind it. (though it generally only not batting an eye level of acceptable with first cousins, siblings tends to be a little squicky for those who actually have siblings themselves.
"I can vouch that [those games] are a result of fantasies by people who don't actually have a younger sister. — Sasahara (setting the record straight), Genshiken"
I am merely being true neutral in this case, from what I've seen usually if its not seriously looking into it the expectation is that the crush is something the younger one grows out of probably remaining oblivious the whole time.
quote:You know, my problem isn't the sibling "crushes." It's the celebration of the often massive power disparities possible in those relationships, coupled with a tradition that often glorifies the humiliation and degradation of the female partner. If siblings were just "crushing" on each other, I wouldn't be so disgusted.
Are you sure we're talking about the same thing? The ones I watched/read never had the above unless it was supposed to come off as squiky. For example CandyBoy (don't let the title confuse you) has it just at the crushing stage and doesn't have the other big words you said.
The point is to add a certain je ne c'est quois to a given series its an interesting trope.
For me though its the hope that the younger girl becomes a Yandere and kills everyone in the series, when that happens its complete bliss for me, because creepy 1 dimensional crazy stalker ax crazy girls are fun.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
quote:What your saying is just as arrogant, my assumption is that your American and that is what you are until proven otherwise, if you decide to be whiny and not correct the assumption that is entirely your fault.
Blayne...you're going off the rails again. Listen to yourself. "You have to prove to me that you're not an American, and until then, that's what you are." Anyway, she did correct your assumption while pointing out how it was pretty amusing, being made from a place of total ignorance.
That's what you did, you know: made an assumption the facts of which you were completely ignorant. This is one of those times you really ought to say, "Whoops, you're right, sorry about that."
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
Sigh. This is why we can't have nice threads about anime.
It's a pity, too, as I rather like anime...
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh:
quote:What your saying is just as arrogant, my assumption is that your American and that is what you are until proven otherwise, if you decide to be whiny and not correct the assumption that is entirely your fault.
Blayne...you're going off the rails again. Listen to yourself. "You have to prove to me that you're not an American, and until then, that's what you are." Anyway, she did correct your assumption while pointing out how it was pretty amusing, being made from a place of total ignorance.
That's what you did, you know: made an assumption the facts of which you were completely ignorant. This is one of those times you really ought to say, "Whoops, you're right, sorry about that."
Not really, yes I made an assumption but probalistically speaking I am not incorrect in that assumption if I am wrong then that person can explain calmly and rationally why I am wrong and not just simply insult me over it. Saying "You don't know anything about me!" Is bland captain obvious tough guy internet talk, I don't actually know any of you and honestly it should be obvious that to an extant anything anyone says is a certain level of an assumption and I wasn't even addressing her specifically when I said 'different culture' but in general so its she or he is the one who overreacted.
What she said isn't what I would qualify as a valid rebuttal in the first place just complaining without substance, the onus is on her to explain just why my cultural relativity argument is wrong and not just use an ad hominem!!! of all things as the crux of her argument.
My initial argument I believe boiled down to "well there culture is different and here's some of the miscelanious background information as to why its generally seen as okay or endearing trope to view in anime" I made the assumption different from yours based on this being a North American forum and that most Otaku (and I mean the majority of) don't have a problem at all with it.
Thus probablistically I could assume PSI is != Japanese and !=Otaku thus at least fufills the different culture condition, if she is culturally Japanese then obviously I would apologize then reaxamine the argument.
But just calling me out of the blue arrogant for cultural sensitivity I found was uncalled for and especially egregious that there was no follow up argument for why I am apparantly in her view wrong.
It is not unreasonable for me to at least want to here an actual argument.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by 0Megabyte: Sigh. This is why we can't have nice threads about anime.
It's a pity, too, as I rather like anime...
We had a different thread before but some random guy came in and kept calling me childish and immature for 'liking' 'children's show' among other insults, felt it was time for a new thread.
Just ignore the current argument and just talk about Anime this isn't an oral conversation where we are 'interrupting' each other as we speak.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:yes I made an assumption but probalistically speaking I am not incorrect in that assumption
Blayne, by that logic, I would be justified in asserting that you are always wrong, because "probalistically speaking" you are wrong often enough. But I am absolutely certain that doing so would infuriate you; the justification that you've put forward here -- that you don't need to apologize for wrongly accusing someone else of ignorance of a given culture simply because it wasn't an entirely unreasonable assumption -- would be completely unsatisfactory to you were I to use it to justify always calling you wrong.
So stop. Think about why it would infuriate you. Now think about why PSI might have been mildly irritated by your assumption that she knew absolutely nothing about Asian cultures.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:So stop. Think about why it would infuriate you. Now think about why PSI might have been mildly irritated by your assumption that she knew absolutely nothing about Asian cultures.
You would be right if that in any way actually resembled what I said, to repeat.
[quote]considering the Japanese have a myth/fairy tale where starcrossed lovers get reincarnated as siblings its understandable as to why an entirely different culture from yours blah blah[/i]
This is nothing to get insulted over, what I said and what you assume to think I said are entirely different and don't even have the same meaning to what you assumed I said.
This is utterly ridiculous to criticize me on, its minor and trivial faux paux excersize in political correctness at worst.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:This is utterly ridiculous to criticize me on...
Out of interest, Blayne, what do you believe you've been justly criticized about over the last couple of years?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
This isn't the thread for it, which is generally why I get pissed off rather than appreciated for this 'help'.
If you want to help me then add me to msn and talk with me privately.
Posted by krynn (Member # 524) on :
I miss GitS. Darker than Black was good, but the second mini season was kinda dull. Was it even canon? Senkou no Night Raid (sp?) looks like it could be good, but there are too many light hearted moments so far.
I miss classic 26 episode series. In long run-on series like Bleach and Naruto you get long periods where the story just isn't interesting enough. Naruto has been like a roller coaster with great moments in arcs and other very low points. Bleach has way more low points for me.
Anyway, in a happier spirit, Togashi has been releasing HxH (one of my original favorites) regulary. I've also been rewatching Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, and Last Exile.
I also liked Avatar: The Last Airbender. I'm very happy they ended the series. They could have taken the hit and ran with it, but instead they had a clear plan for the series and its ending. kudos to them.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:If you want to help me then add me to msn...
Gah. Have you ever seen me on chat? I'm, like, the Abominable Snowperson of chat; someone might think they see me on their buddy list, only to blink and, when they look back, realize I'm gone.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:This isn't the thread for it...
You keep saying things like this. What precisely is the thread for it?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by krynn: I miss GitS. Darker than Black was good, but the second mini season was kinda dull. Was it even canon? Senkou no Night Raid (sp?) looks like it could be good, but there are too many light hearted moments so far.
I miss classic 26 episode series. In long run-on series like Bleach and Naruto you get long periods where the story just isn't interesting enough. Naruto has been like a roller coaster with great moments in arcs and other very low points. Bleach has way more low points for me.
Anyway, in a happier spirit, Togashi has been releasing HxH (one of my original favorites) regulary. I've also been rewatching Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, and Last Exile.
I also liked Avatar: The Last Airbender. I'm very happy they ended the series. They could have taken the hit and ran with it, but instead they had a clear plan for the series and its ending. kudos to them.
Erm, just to remind you that the writers sometimes don't have the power to decide when a series ends, I believe they had enough material for four seasons for Avatar but had to end at 3, they left quite a few subplots unresolved when they ended it when they did.
I happen to think that Avatar could have maintained Stargate SG1's level of quality had they been able to keep going, I could easily see 6-8 seasons as working out pretty well, I'm honestly of the opinion that there's absolutely totally nothing that 'forces' a series to suck after on air for a while look at Doctor Who awesome and completely sublime from 1st to 11th Doctors.
Posted by krynn (Member # 524) on :
Some things were left out of Avatar, but I think they decided one book for each of the other 3 elements. I like how the series went. Of course they could come up with more material.
I dont watch any of those ScyFy shows, but I know they have a big following.
Posted by Amilia (Member # 8912) on :
quote:Originally posted by 0Megabyte: What's good to look forward to this year in anime, anyway?
Does anyone know any halfway decent new shows?
Nodame Cantable Finale was absolutely delightful. Don't know if it counts as a new show, though, as there have been two previous story arcs.
That's the only anime I've watched this year. I've decided I prefer jdoramas to anime for the most part.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
In recent anime, Cross Game is amazing. Durarara is amazing. Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood was good, even if the director was horrible (at least the original manga shone through).
There are some others, but those are definitely some of the best.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Durarara is definately amazing I love how much depth it has just from the nonlinear story telling alone, it makes you feel like that alot is going on.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Blayne,
quote:Not really, yes I made an assumption but probalistically speaking I am not incorrect in that assumption if I am wrong then that person can explain calmly and rationally why I am wrong and not just simply insult me over it.
No, what you did was make an assumption out of complete ignorance (that is a fact), and then tied it to an insult (that is also a fact). The situation becomes different when you add in the second part. Had you simply made the assumption that PSI was an American with no substantive experience with Japanese culture, I suspect she would have been at most mildly irritated.
That's not what you did, though.
quote:Is bland captain obvious tough guy internet talk...
Of all the people on Hatrack, are you really the person who is in a position to get upset over 'tough guy Internet talk'? Where exactly do you think you would fall on a scale measuring that sort of thing?
quote:...I don't actually know any of you and honestly it should be obvious that to an extant anything anyone says is a certain level of an assumption and I wasn't even addressing her specifically when I said 'different culture' but in general so its she or he is the one who overreacted.
You're packing in...at least three different excuses for your poor behavior in less than one sentence. That's pretty impressive, Blayne, in a way. Do you notice a pattern here? People take issue with your behavior - often - and it is always justified on your part, there are reasons, other people were worse, there are excuses.
When your reasoning concludes that every time you are the put-upon good guy, isn't it time to re-examine your conclusions and see if perhaps you're wrong?
quote: What she said isn't what I would qualify as a valid rebuttal in the first place just complaining without substance, the onus is on her to explain just why my cultural relativity argument is wrong and not just use an ad hominem!!! of all things as the crux of her argument.
I would say the onus is on you to be right about the assumptions you make, particularly the ones made in ignorance, and if you're wrong, to man up and say, "Whoops!" and move on. Why does she have the onus to correct your wrongheaded assumptions that you oughtn't have made in the first place? Listen to yourself! "I was badly wrong about her, it's her job to correct it!"
quote:But just calling me out of the blue arrogant for cultural sensitivity I found was uncalled for and especially egregious that there was no follow up argument for why I am apparantly in her view wrong.
This is not what happened. What happened is you said, "... its understandable as to why an entirely different culture from yours would find sibling crushes endearing/cute or as more hardcore Otaku then me say it... Kawaii~"
Then PSI Teleport laughed and said it was pretty arrogant for you to assume, as a starting position, that not only was Japanese culture 'entirely different' from hers, but that you had a keener awareness of it than she did...in an anime discussion thread.
*sigh* Don't worry, anime discussers, I'ma throw in the towel here shortly.
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
Ok Blayne, I watched the first three episodes of Haruhi Susumiya and I enjoyed it. I really enjoy the story telling method they use in it. The show is fanservice with a bit of Sci-Fi added in. I'm still going to finish watching it because it was very enjoyable. The characters are interesting as well but it isn't quite what I was looking for.
What I am looking for is a nitty gritty sci fi series, like Ergo Proxy, Banner of the Stars, or Wolf's Rain.
Are there any new "space opera" animes out this year or any post apocalyptic anime? That is more what I am looking for.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Aha another new convert to Haruhiism!! Muahahaha!
By story telling method I hope you watched it in order the original airing had it in anachronistic format with bits of it out of order so be sure to pay attention to the correct chronological order.
While not "new" you should really really really watch legend of Galactic heroes, really. Like Shadow Series Meets Babylon 5 IN SPACE (mind asplodes).
Trigun (though it takes a little while to get to there) is also post apocalyptic scifi.
Mnemosyne qualifies definately in dark and gritty category, Kino's Journey might qualify.
Oh oh! Noein, you'll like that.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Noein, definitely. For something even more recent, try out Eden of the East.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amilia: I've decided I prefer jdoramas to anime for the most part.
Ditto this. Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Wow. While there are plenty of bad anime, jdramas take the degree of possible awfulness to new levels. That said, there are some very good jdramas -- I just think there are more very good anime (sadly, that tend to under-diffuse in the US).
edit: if you like jdramas, definitely check out the better kdramas. They have a higher rate of quality shows, I think.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
The degree of awfulness is kind exactly why I enjoy them so much. They are quite often just so incredibly horrible that I enjoy them that much more.
Yeah, it's totally a guilty pleasure. I make no excuses - I just laugh at/with it and enjoy not being at work. Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I have no idea what a JDrama is, tv tropes has nothing on them.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Luckily, there are other sources of information.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Sources other than tv tropes?! Blasphemy!
(Says the person who's never been to tvtropes..)
Posted by 0Megabyte (Member # 8624) on :
There's a little thing called google, Blayne...
Are you trying to be funny about the "not on tvtropes" thing, or are you serious?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Being funny, I understand that its something akin to live action television drama. Though why its called a jdrama rather then simply normal japanese daytime tv is beyond me.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
You're right, it is entirely insane to have a commonly understood shorthand term for a category of shows. Almost as bad as having a huge vocabulary of slang for usage regarding types of scenarios that appear during those shows.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
I don't necessarily have a better approach to this circumstance I don't even know how to describe it aptly, but I guess I'll say I feel like Blayne is getting alot of exasperation from folks when he probably needs a more calm pointed response.
I recognize most of this exasperation is born out of frustration not malice, but recipients often can't tell the difference.
Posted by krynn (Member # 524) on :
anyone kind of bummed FMA is ending in June? It's been consistently pretty good. I think that is the true sign of a good anime/manga; when it ends you feel kind of sad because you like it and want to see more.
Carrie, the first thing I thought of when you posted about the jdramas was MST3K. I wonder if anyone posts stuff like that for these types of shows.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Start your own I always say
Well FMA will cover all of the manga once it ends right? There's around probably roughly 107 or so chapters...
Posted by krynn (Member # 524) on :
Blayne, yeah there are 107 right now and 108 will be the last one. The current series will cover all of the manga.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Well FMA is roughly around a 26 or so episode anime so I'm not complaining, I find 12-14 episode ones waaaaay too short while the 50 episode ones a little long (usually Gundam) but at least their long enough that you don't mind them finally ending.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
Blayne, FMA is already about 60 episodes long. Of course, it won't get much longer (since the anime is about caught up with the manga, and the manga's almost over), but it definitly isn't roughly a 26 episode anime.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
quote:Originally posted by krynn: Carrie, the first thing I thought of when you posted about the jdramas was MST3K. I wonder if anyone posts stuff like that for these types of shows.
That would be kind of awesome. I may have to dust off the ol' Google-fu and see if something exists. Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
quote:Originally posted by fugu13: Blayne, FMA is already about 60 episodes long. Of course, it won't get much longer (since the anime is about caught up with the manga, and the manga's almost over), but it definitly isn't roughly a 26 episode anime.
60!? Man I need to catch up as I was waiting for the anime to end before finishing them, I wasn't aware they went so far ahead.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
You should really watch the first part of the first one, too, since they move rapidly over the content the first one had that was true to the manga (in order to keep it as few as 60-odd).
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
I already seen all of the first FMA and know what it covered where it overlaps, I should also point out that I also liked its story though I prob ably would have been upset had I known about the manga back then.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
There type of characters (yandere's) always make me go "d'awwww" I want one!
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Aha another new convert to Haruhiism!! Muahahaha!
By story telling method I hope you watched it in order the original airing had it in anachronistic format with bits of it out of order so be sure to pay attention to the correct chronological order.
While not "new" you should really really really watch legend of Galactic heroes, really. Like Shadow Series Meets Babylon 5 IN SPACE (mind asplodes).
Trigun (though it takes a little while to get to there) is also post apocalyptic scifi.
Mnemosyne qualifies definately in dark and gritty category, Kino's Journey might qualify.
Oh oh! Noein, you'll like that.
I saw Noein a couple of years ago, and I still watch it every once in a while because it rocks.
I did find a FANTASTIC series that I am watching through right now called Texhnolyze. It is a Geneon release. It is dark, violent, and gritty. The first couple episodes are very slow and hard to get through, but around the fourth episode things start to pick up. I'm on episode 6 right now, and I can tell I am going to put this into the same "classic" category as I do Wolf's Rain and Miyazaki's films.
The story takes place in an underground city called Lux, and focuses on a man named Ichise. He is a prize fighter that has his arm and leg decapitated, and later has a prosthetic arm and leg attached. It is an apocalyptic anime and the storytelling is unique. I'm really enjoying it.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
After all and I do mean ALL of the significant effort I have put into convincing people and defending my views on anime as a legitimate serious artform as a medium to tell interesting and engaging stories and that it is most definately NOT just a vehical for animated porn and naughty tentacles they just HAD to release an anime on tv broadcast on a major network where the protagonist drinks fresh breastmilk to gain alchemical powers...
WTF Japan!? Why...!? Naze!?
Seikan no Qwaser btw if anyone is curious as to the name.
*goes to lock the bedroom door and watches it*
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
So you're annoyed that this show is going to give the genre a bad name...and yet you're very interested in watching it? In secret?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
Well to be fair the show being broadcasted on TV is very censored and only the webcast version is uncensored.
Also to be fair it also takes itself fairly seriously and probably has a decent plot and hey gratuitous russian...
Of course I am being a little bit facetious, yes I do think that this could contribute to making the genre hard to take seriously as an artform, but on the otherhand the situation struck me as a funny aneurism moment after I found out that Aya Hirano is a VA in the series of "... wait this is a serious series!?"
The following sentence between the '*' was meant to illustrate that I am being at least a little bit partly tongue in cheek to avoid falling into the trap of Poe's Law.
It's like in the Zero Punctuation Army of Two review where Yahtzee complained about getting a gay vibe from "Mr and Mrs Skelletor" in order to crack jokes.
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) but also pulls off the amazing stunt of sounding FOREIGN and BADLY ACCENTED when speaking Japanese, I give props to that for effort.![[Smile]](smile.gif)