Sheen's performance in Oliver Stone's "Platoon" was absolutely outstanding. I am so perplexed as to how he arrived where he is now.
[ February 25, 2011, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: BlackBlade ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Drugs and fatal self-esteem issues, each of which exacerbates the other. My brother's in a similar spiral, and lacks only the money and fame to make it equally legendary.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
Maybe the last ghost of his artistic integrity forced him to try and make at least a small effort of rebellion against that terrible, terrible, unfunny show.
Glad the show is done.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
drinking the nestle quik? where's that one coming from? Is it the nescafe from gadaffiland?
ANYWAY
quote:" . . . I can't use the word 'sober' because that's a term from those people, and I have cleansed myself. I have closed my eyes and in a nanosecond, I cured myself. . . . It's just the work of sissies. The only thing I'm addicted to right now is winning. You know?"
Sure thing, sheen baby. You're 'winning.'
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:During his stint in rehab, a clearly bored Sheen had called in to radio's "The Dan Patrick Show" once or twice to chat about his "forced hiatus" and to dispense advice to Lindsay Lohan.
Well *that* explains things...
Posted by Aros (Member # 4873) on :
Wow. Just wow.
quote:On Alcoholics Anonymous ... Sheen says it's a "bootleg cult" with a success rate of only 5%, while his is 100% and added, "Newsflash .. I am special and I will never be one of you."
quote:-- After one rant the host, Alex Jones, tells Charlie he sounds like Thomas Jefferson. Charlie's response, "I'm not Thomas Jefferson. He was a p***y! But I dare anyone to debate me on things."
quote:There's more ... much more -- including sometime incomprehensible riffs about trolls, tattoos, F-18 fighter pilots, and Vatican assassins.
He sounds like he's auditioning for an MTV reality show.
Posted by MattP (Member # 10495) on :
I think he wins craziest celebrity not yet a Scientologist.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Is this really what were talking about? this may be the first time that Hatrack and Chelsea Lately have shared a topic.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
I don't think the implication was supposed to be that Jefferson was a pussy, period. I think Sheen meant to say he was a pussy compared to Charlie Sheen.
It's like if I said, "Einstein was a moron. I'm way better at math than he ever was."
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Aren't we all pussies compared to Charlie Sheen?
He healed himself! With his mind! I said, WITH HIS MIND!
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I know that I am a lesser man than Charlie Sheen, he has survived great amounts of drugs over and over and he came so close to having a manufactured family of porn stars. Not even Tom Cruise giving birth to Woody Harrelsons love child is that impressive.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: drinking the nestle quik? where's that one coming from? Is it the nescafe from gadaffiland?
Nailed it. Fixed.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Flying Fish: Aren't we all pussies compared to Charlie Sheen?
He healed himself! With his mind! I said, WITH HIS MIND!
Being healed by his mind is truly an impressive feat.
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
I would certainly mind being healed by his feet.
...
sorry. Heard that wrong.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: drinking the nestle quik? where's that one coming from? Is it the nescafe from gadaffiland?
Nailed it. Fixed.
I mean to be fair nescafe is insidious stuff
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
Nescafe is terrible. You drink it, and before you know it, you're hallucinating and inciting Middle Eastern countries to revolution.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I kind of just have two questions about this.
ONE: why doesn't beating up women make you a social pariah in hollywood as easily as being racist? Why would anyone give Sheen a show again?
TWO: how much does your life have to suck before you actually sit down and regularly watch this show? Are you old? A recluse who can't get enough entertainment out of the internet? Misanthropic enough that you can't go out with friends instead because you have none? Are you fundamentally boring as a human being? What is wrong. What happened. Where did you go wrong.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
wait there's a third question:
Who here hasn't tried nescafe? I think I should go find some. You only see it on every single shelf of any grocery in latin america, but I can't find it here.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
You become a pariah in Hollywood by being less profitable. You can be a kick-ass action hero on screen, but when people find out you're gay, your stock drops. Who wants to sink 150 million $ into your movie when they're afraid you're going to be photographed lip-locking Tom Cruise on the beach the night before your film is released? Ditto for romantic leads. Even if only 10-15% of moviegoers decide they don't want to watch you in a certain kind of role, that's enough to destroy the profit margin of some movies.
Call it the Anne Heche effect.
Sheen acts like an ass in real-life, then plays an ass on tv, and it doesn't hurt the show. The "bad" publicity, up to a point, helps his show's ratings. I think his latest hi-jinks crossed the line because he's starting to look like he may end up being committed or being too brain-cooked to work on new episodes. Hence, he is at a risk of being "unprofitable."
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:Originally posted by Flying Fish: Call it the Anne Heche effect.
quote:On August 19, 2000, Heche knocked on the door of a home in Fresno, California. Dazed and scantily clad, Heche said her SUV had broken down, asked to take a shower, and then made herself at home. When the police arrived a short time later, Heche, who had publicly announced the end of her headline-grabbing three-year relationship with DeGeneres the day before, declared she was God and would take everyone back to heaven in her spaceship. Press reports at the time explained that her disorientation was the result of mental illness—fueled by the drug Ecstasy, according to Heche—stemming from childhood abuse by her father, which led her to create an alter ego named Celestia, who was "daughter of God, half-sibling of Christ, and that she was to spread a message of love to this stricken planet before ascending into Heaven."
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Ooooh, yikes, I had no idea Anne Heche had so many issues.
I was grasping for an example of how being outed as a homosexual could be detrimental to getting roles as a romantic leading man/ lady.
Maybe it could be the William Shatner effect: could you watch him in an action role without hearing his 911 call (when his wife drowned) in the back of your mind?
Regardless, this all just my opinion.
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
Randy Travis effect, then. Mere rumors that he was gay destroyed his record sales.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
Also not a good example. In the years since his wife's death, Shatner has seen a resurgence in popularity with several Emmys and many more Emmy noms to his name for "Boston Legal." And Anne Heche's career also has improved since her very public breakdown.
The celebs who seem to lose public approval are the ones who not only break down, but do so in a scornful, abusive way that displays hateful parts of their personality or disdain for their fans.
[ February 27, 2011, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Chris Bridges ]
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
I'm getting echoes of Randy Newman's song "My Life is Good"...
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
You call it the Hasselhoff Effect, but he's arguably more popular now after his cheeseburger infused breakdown than he was before.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Dang, those aren't the best examples. Okay, here's my last try: Fatty Arbuckle.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Back then, the studios had a frightening degree of control. A ban on a actor meant something.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
quote:During his stint in rehab, a clearly bored Sheen had called in to radio's "The Dan Patrick Show" once or twice to chat about his "forced hiatus" and to dispense advice to Lindsay Lohan.
Victoly! Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
In all seriousness, I'm starting to think that what's going on with Sheen is less "Drugs and fatal self-esteem issues" and really actually "severe, unmedicated mania" — the more I read his quotes, the more I can only guess that this is a major hypomanic peak, that sheen is probably severely bipolar, and needs to man up and get medicated.
Or, you know, he'll probably kill himself within five years.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
ok yeah someone pointed me to that interview and the bipolar thing is apparently already an issue and YEAP it's painful to watch him.
I'm not bi-polar, I'm bi-winning!
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
Sounds like he's also a warlock.
And yeah, he definitely comes across as manic. I wonder how much he's sleeping at this point? Maybe 4-5 hours a night, I'd guess.
Posted by Aros (Member # 4873) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: ok yeah someone pointed me to that interview and the bipolar thing is apparently already an issue and YEAP it's painful to watch him.
I'm not bi-polar, I'm bi-winning!
He sounds like a bad Chuck Norris joke.
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
Yup, it sure looks like a major manic episode to me.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
quote:Originally posted by Destineer: Sounds like he's also a warlock.
And yeah, he definitely comes across as manic. I wonder how much he's sleeping at this point? Maybe 4-5 hours a night, I'd guess.
He'd be lucky to be getting that much.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
BB: I just had a huge Samurai Shodown flashback. Wow.
VICTOLY!
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
manic episodes like this are where people generally piss away their finances, chase off their friends and business prospects, waste all their cash, and — oh hey, are the least likely to be individually convinced that they're actually being insane and need to medicate themselves pronto.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:"I feel more alive, I feel more focused, I feel more energetic," Sheen told CNN's Piers Morgan. "I'm on a quest to claim absolute victory on every front."
If he's taking requests, I wouldn't mind absolute victory on the cheap energy front.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I want him to achieve victory in building a working FTL drive.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
PSI:
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quote:If he's taking requests, I wouldn't mind absolute victory on the cheap energy front.
Ha! I'd take absolute victory with the problem of poverty.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I think that request would go a long ways toward fixing yours, BB. So get back in line behind me.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aros:
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: ok yeah someone pointed me to that interview and the bipolar thing is apparently already an issue and YEAP it's painful to watch him.
I'm not bi-polar, I'm bi-winning!
He sounds like a bad Chuck Norris joke.
It reminds me of the absolutely stellar pun from Scott Pilgrim, where Ramona says "I was just a little bi-curious" and her lesbian ex responds "And I'm bi-FURIOUS!"
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I think that request would go a long ways toward fixing yours, BB. So get back in line behind me.
Oh I see how it is. Poor folks like me, have to sit in the back of the bus, while uppity rich folks like you tell the driver where you'd like to go.
In all seriousness, I still think solving poverty is still a greater net gain over even cheap energy. Cheap energy certainly helps pull people out of poverty, but ultimately we are still going to have the haves and havenots. We will still have criminals, and those who cannot climb out of their circumstances.
edit: Further, with poverty solved, and all that brain power going towards other pursuits, there would be more effort expended towards things like upper education, hobbies, designing, tinkering, and your problem would most likely be solved as well.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I don't think you can solve poverty without also enforcing birth control, which no one wants to do.
Exponential growth in animals leads to a leveling off due to starvation. Why do we humans think we're somehow exempt from that?
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
Focusing on birth rates is probably the wrong way of tackling the problem. Historically, birth rates decrease as per capita GDP increases anyways and many places like Europe, Japan, Hong Kong, Canada, and Singapore are at sub-replacement rates already without needing to enforce birth control.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I think that request would go a long ways toward fixing yours, BB. So get back in line behind me.
Oh I see how it is. Poor folks like me, have to sit in the back of the bus, while uppity rich folks like you tell the driver where you'd like to go.
Yes. You do see how it is. *pat pat*
quote: In all seriousness, I still think solving poverty is still a greater net gain over even cheap energy. Cheap energy certainly helps pull people out of poverty, but ultimately we are still going to have the haves and havenots. We will still have criminals, and those who cannot climb out of their circumstances.
edit: Further, with poverty solved, and all that brain power going towards other pursuits, there would be more effort expended towards things like upper education, hobbies, designing, tinkering, and your problem would most likely be solved as well. [/QB]
Unless humankind and society changed into something completely unrecognizable, I don't think that it is possible to solve the poverty problem without removing people's free will. Sure, there are lots of things we could do improve the problem (like free energy), but I don't think it could ever be 100% solved.
Functionally free energy, on the other hand, is something that I think might be possible.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'm certainly not suggesting that the US enforce population control measures or anything like that. It seems clear that countries are much better off with a positive population curve.
But "solving poverty" seems to me to be a math problem at its heart.
Finite resources and a population growing exponentially is a combination guaranteed to lead to some individuals not receiving the resources they need.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
Well, the thing about poverty is that totally eye-balling it, with the rapid reduction of poverty in China, it should be eliminated in the next 10 or 15 years. India will take longer. Granted, places like Africa will take even longer, but it seems more or less inevitable given trends with developing markets.
Also, population growth under fairly reasonable assumptions about the future is expected to level-off at 2050.
So these two are problems that will probably be solved sooner or later. Free energy on the other hand would be revolutionary, assuming that it was clean* anyways. Might even change our understanding of entropy and/or help prevent the heat death of the universe.
* Depending on how free we're talking about, even not being "clean" might not be a problem if you can throw energy at it
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I'm not talking about truly free. I'm talking about extremely cheap.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
He's not on a quest to claim reasonable victory.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Ah, I see that you are correct.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
If the population does level off in 2050, there's still a matter of resource consumption increasing exponentially. In this case, Porter's cheap energy would go a long way.
If both population and resource consumption level their curves, then we've got a shot. There's still finite resources, but the universe is a big place, and with linear consumption at that point it becomes a collection/distribution problem and not a math one.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: Ah, I see that you are correct.
Yeah my entire premise rests on "total victory" actually happening. If we're dreaming, poverty seems to be a stronger goal. Realistically I see cheaper energy as being a more worthy and tenable goal.
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BTW, Sheen has lost custody of his children temporarily, pending review.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Just a thought exercise....
Suppose someone invented a device/process which could do the following:
--produce unlimited food and other material goods at no cost, solving poverty.
--enable the opening up of unlimited space with near instantaneous travel, solving population crowding.
--produce unlimited, free, clean energy, solving any energy crisis.
-- and what the hay, it even provides a means to hold off entropy/heat death/big rip.
Would you use it?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention -- every good thing it is accomplishing in this universe is mirrored by an equal and opposite bad thing in a congruent alternate universe, so that for every intelligent being fed, clothed, housed, entertained here, elsewhere someone is starved, exposed, crowded, tortured, etc.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Flying Fish: Sounds like Omelas.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
BlackBlade: Quite. Except in Omelas we consoled ourselves that the needs of the many outweighed the suffering of one.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
But is there any real difference in the suffering quotient if one person carries everything as opposed to it being spread out amongst a populace?
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
quote:Exponential growth in animals leads to a leveling off due to starvation.
This seems to be a misunderstanding. First, the growth in animals is not truly exponential, but the lower part of an s-shaped curve (hence the leveling off). Second, many animal populations level off without any starvation involved. Populations adapt to resource constraints in many ways in the animal kingdom. Many animals simply have controls in their behavior that ensure fewer births when there are fewer resources.
quote:But is there any real difference in the suffering quotient if one person carries everything as opposed to it being spread out amongst a populace?
Yes. Five hundred thousand people foregoing a nice meal, or losing an hour of their lives, is less of a moral wrong than one dying 57 years early of starvation (that's about the same amount of time). I'm not sure what the tradeoff function is, but many small amounts lost in many places are not equivalent to their total lost in one place.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Because I don't like to discuss religion too much, I'm choking back a serious urge to reference Jesus....
But seriously, the FF-Producer-Debtor-Flux-Capacitor works thus:
you turn your thermostat up or down one degree, you increase the odds of someone freezing or sweating on world-A by just that much. Every ounce of food we produce here, makes 1 ounce less there. Every minute by which we postpone a supernova or red sun expansion or heat death here hastens it there.
You never have to see them or hear from them, but you know it's happening.
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Boy, did this thread take a turn for the surreal...
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
Just to further clarify: the effects of the FF-P-D-F-C are cumulative. Five million people on Earth keeping their living rooms cozy almost certainly causes an entire village or region on world-A to freeze; 20 million people on Earth having an extra snack in the evening causes the populace of a small island chain on world-a to starve.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: Boy, did this thread take a turn for the surreal...
I'm only doing this to keep people occupied and here until Charlie Sheen wakes up later this evening....
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
This also sounds just like The Fixation by Alastair Reynolds.
A group of Persian scientists are trying to prevent an ancient artifact from decaying over time. They devise a way to 'inject' entropy into a neighboring parallel universe to repair it. When asked if it will harm the other universe, the scientists say no, because they are dividing it up into small pieces and only sending an infinitesimal, unnoticeable amount to several other universes. When asked what would happen if it all goes to one universe, the scientists say it is not possible. Unbeknownst to the scientists, it in fact does all go to one universe. Reality in the victimized universe runs amok.
Posted by Flying Fish (Member # 12032) on :
If I recall correctly, (I read it long ago), Asimov's The Gods Themselves involves the the transfer of energy, and perhaps even angular momentum between our universe and another.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:This also sounds just like The Fixation by Alastair Reynolds.
Or, prior to that, The Gods Themselves, by Isaac Asimov.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
quote:Originally posted by Flying Fish: Because I don't like to discuss religion too much, I'm choking back a serious urge to reference Jesus....
But seriously, the FF-Producer-Debtor-Flux-Capacitor works thus:
you turn your thermostat up or down one degree, you increase the odds of someone freezing or sweating on world-A by just that much. Every ounce of food we produce here, makes 1 ounce less there. Every minute by which we postpone a supernova or red sun expansion or heat death here hastens it there.
You never have to see them or hear from them, but you know it's happening.
Oooh! Like they're in a third world country!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean Monahan: This also sounds just like The Fixation by Alastair Reynolds.
A group of Persian scientists are trying to prevent an ancient artifact from decaying over time. They devise a way to 'inject' entropy into a neighboring parallel universe to repair it. When asked if it will harm the other universe, the scientists say no, because they are dividing it up into small pieces and only sending an infinitesimal, unnoticeable amount to several other universes. When asked what would happen if it all goes to one universe, the scientists say it is not possible. Unbeknownst to the scientists, it in fact does all go to one universe. Reality in the victimized universe runs amok.
Is that where Stargate stole it from?
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Note the "Verified Account" icon... It's really him.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
This is how ridiculous the Sheen escapades are, Jimmy Fallon is funny! this is not allowed, Charlie Sheen is so crazy that I enjoyed Jimmy Fallon... what is happening?
Posted by Nighthawk (Member # 4176) on :
Wow, the visual resemblance is amazing.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Jimmy Fallon has also done a dead-on impression of Neil Young. I think Craig Ferguson is funnier, but Jimmy Fallon is clearly very talented.
Posted by Sterling (Member # 8096) on :
[ March 07, 2011, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: Nighthawk ]
Posted by Parkour (Member # 12078) on :
What they should do is just have a different actor play Sheen's part in two and a half men each new episode. Not talk about it or reference it otherwise, just have it be someone different every day.
Posted by Jeorge (Member # 11524) on :
My thinking was, get a stunt double to play Sheen's character for the ten seconds it takes him to get run over by Jake going for a spin in one of his cars...
And then they can call it 1-and-a-half men.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
All things considered, yeah I'd say it's real. And, quite honestly, I know a few people that would jump at the opportunity no matter how screwed up he may be.
Posted by Peek (Member # 7688) on :
*WINNING*
Yeah.
Dude Peek
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Just when you think it couldn't get weirder, you remember:
This is Hollywood, baby.
>_<
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nighthawk: All things considered, yeah I'd say it's real. And, quite honestly, I know a few people that would jump at the opportunity no matter how screwed up he may be.
People in his state of mind can be bled dry. You can hang around them while they're pissing their money away.
I wouldn't have a problem with it, because he's an abusive and horrible person, so I hope he's getting bilked pretty much daily.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Parkour: What they should do is just have a different actor play Sheen's part in two and a half men each new episode. Not talk about it or reference it otherwise, just have it be someone different every day.
I disagree. Just have Charlie off somewhere else. First few episodes he can be on a major bender calling from Vegas, Rio, Monaco, etc. Then we do a few weeks of Charlie in rehab. Then he decides to move to Europe and find himself.
Meanwhile, we move Evelyn and Berta up in bigger parts to fill in Charlie's straight lines and quips. Alan does most of the heavy lifting with the physical comedy and the rants and convoluted plots. Heck, one plot line where Jake gets super successful at something on the internet and we've got the "Alan's a loser and someone undeserving has more money than him" dynamic back.
Plus Berta moving in to Charlie's room so Alan's still sleeping on the couch would be fantastic. I think it'll work every bit as well without Sheen.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I was all excited to do this until he said that he was Hollywood’s "most trending" celebrity. I've got standards.
Posted by Geraine (Member # 9913) on :
quote:Originally posted by AvidReader: Plus Berta moving in to Charlie's room so Alan's still sleeping on the couch would be fantastic. I think it'll work every bit as well without Sheen.
The best part is you could still call it Two and a Half Men!
I guess breitbart wants to live on a different planet too.
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geraine:
quote:Originally posted by AvidReader: Plus Berta moving in to Charlie's room so Alan's still sleeping on the couch would be fantastic. I think it'll work every bit as well without Sheen.
The best part is you could still call it Two and a Half Men!
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Posted by Parkour (Member # 12078) on :
Wow.
quote:As a fellow “gnarly-gnarlington” I have to emphatically state that violence against women is clearly conduct unbecoming. That’s a big thing to overlook, so I refuse to embrace all aspects of “The Sheen’s” behavior. But I will say that in many ways he is showing us the path out of the doldrums and shining a light on a brighter future. Charlie Sheen doesn’t want anything from you. Charlie Sheen doesn’t put his fate or livelihood in the hands of the state, or a union, or another human being. He believes in Charlie Sheen. He’s taken his natural talents and worked really hard at honing them and profiting from them. He’s taken that profit and decided to spend in a way that he sees fit. I’m not going to judge him and claim to know that he’s really a sad clown putting on happy make-up. His happy make-up is cocaine and hot chicks. I have enough experience with those things to know, in fact, that they do produce a considerable amount of happiness.
It’s so refreshing to see people on Facebook and Twitter echoing Sheen’s catchphrases instead of empty leftist garbage. They’re not using his terms in reference to him, but in reference to themselves. And that’s the key. We’ve been beat down for far too long into accepting that union membership and a middle class pension is the pinnacle of success or that there is some achievement or superiority associated with being a victim. “The Sheen” calls his path “Epic” and “Winning.” It used to be called the American dream. Believe in yourself, take responsibility for your actions, and deal with the repercussions of your decisions; both positive and negative. Watch how the fools and trolls react to the man and you can see their true motivations. Those people are not merely against Charlie Sheen, they’re against the American Dream. Follow his lead and start “winning.” Charlie Sheen clearly has this down, bro. What about you?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Just as I stopped being entertained by Sheen's quotes, this guy gives me a new silly thing to laugh at.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
charlie sheeeeeeeeeeeen
is the american dreeeeeeeam
follow his lead bro, daps to bighollywood.com
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
I dont drink. I'm so immature I dont think it'll have any effect on my personality.
Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
quote:We need to hack up the person responsible for this bad connection. Hack him up into pieces in front of his children. We need to cut off his face and then wear it and go on a very tightly budgeted shopping spree in stores that don't exist yet.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
american dream Posted by Jeorge (Member # 11524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geraine:
quote:Originally posted by AvidReader: Plus Berta moving in to Charlie's room so Alan's still sleeping on the couch would be fantastic. I think it'll work every bit as well without Sheen.
The best part is you could still call it Two and a Half Men!
This was the funniest thing I've read in this thread. Posted by Godric 2.0 (Member # 11443) on :
quote:53 — The show officially begins with a mock iPhone ad, advertising the “MaSheen.” This app will be used throughout the show to introduce each segment. Two attractive scantily clad women — contest winners Kelly Jean and Lisa Jaques — come onstage to sing the national anthem before a waving flag. They’re not exactly great singers. “Do it topless!” one audience member shouts. 8:58 — Film clips are playing onscreen. Die Hard, Midnight Express, Taxi Driver, Animal House, Sheen’s own Platoon, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and (of course) Apocalypse Now. There’s no context, just the violent clips. One imagines it’s like being inside Sheen’s fever dream and the experience is taking on a Clockwork Orange quality. 9:00 — Two goddesses are now making out onstage. And finally, Charlie Sheen returns. He holds up a sports shirt of the style that’s worn by his Two and a Half Men character and puts it on. The audience gamely boos. The Two and a Half Men theme song plays and is intercut with a scene from a classic film of a man screaming “Turn it off!” Then, Sheen grabs a Detroit Tigers shirt instead. The crowd roars and gives him a standing ovation. Regarding the Men shirt, Sheen says, “Take that out and burn it.” On video, the girls burn the shirt backstage. 9:07 — Sheen steps behind a presidential-style podium that proclaims “Warlock States of Sheen.” Guitarist Robert Pattinson is playing onstage. Sheen begins a lengthy speech in his newfound Malibu Messiah semi-coherent metaphor-stuffed neo-Hunter S. Thompson style, talking about his “napalm dripping brain.” “I’m here to solve a portion of this grand mystery,” he says. 9:08 — Sheen: “I am finally here to identify and train the Vatican assassin locked inside each and every one of you.” 9:10 — Sheen’s promises are largely incomprehensible, though at least seem intentionally so: “Freedom from monkey eyed…sweat-eating whores. Freedom from the dour and sour taste of malignant reproach… I’m a giant and leaky bag of mayhem.” 9:13 – Sheen: “They took my awesome children… They took my sometimes bitchin’ job… And when they thought there was nothing left, they tried to take my heart and brain and titanium spine. But they could not.” Audience growing restless. This show is all pump-up, no narrative. 9:15 — OK, nobody understands a word Sheen is saying. “”Is anybody else as confused by this s— as I am?” he finally asks. There are roars from the crowd. “I wrote every word!” Later, a cab driver tells me that it’s about this time that angry fans began walking out of the theatre. 9:18 – “Nothing terrifies a troll more than its own reflection,” Sheen continues, before shifting gears into politics. “In a recent poll, they told me I’d bring down that whore [Sarah] Palin. I don’t have time for that nonsense.” [Read about the poll he's referring to here.] 9:20 — People start booing Sheen. Not playing around, but actually booing him. Sheen yells, “I already got your money, dude!” 9:23 — We are watching video of Charlie Sheen playing Call of Duty. 9:35 — The show has become a padded and disjointed mess. Sheen plays an old short film he made called RPG starring a young Johnny Depp but the audience gets frustrated and starts booing. Sheen stops the video and says, “Okay, so RPG was a bomb. Tonight is an experiment.” One is reminded of Torpedo of Truth’s subtitle on the marquee outside: “Defeat is not an option.” 9:40 — Sheen says he’s going to “Tell some stories about crack. I figured Detroit was a good place to tell some crack stories.” This comment, not surprisingly, does not go over well. “Show of hands who here has tried crack?” Very few people raise their hand. “I don’t do crack anymore, but this is a good f—ing night to do some crack.” The audience boos. 9:43 — Sheen tells the audience, “You paid your hard-earned money without knowing what this show was about.” He asks if people have any questions. A girl from the audience asks for his best pornstar story. Sheen doesn’t want to tell that one. He’s starts telling a story about getting his car stolen — he says the story involves crack — but nobody wants to hear it. Another woman asks for a hug. He gives it to her and that’s nice — pretty much the whole audience could use one at this point. 9:50 — The show appears to be almost over. More padding, rap tributes to Sheen from YouTube. He plays a video that intercuts his 20/20 interview with new footage of him being obnoxious to Andrea Canning. It’s amusing at first, but drags on too long. 10:03 — The show is now an unmitigated disaster. There’s a fairly steady stream of people leaving early. Attendee Chris Acchione, a self-described Sheen fan who traveled all the way from Toronto for the show, says his entire mezzanine row walked out. “He’s making a fool of himself,” he says. “Is there a bigger loser in the world? He’ll be [begging] Chuck Lorre for his job back by the end of the week.” 10:05 — Sheen is composing a live tweet. More disappointed comments from people leaving early: “I was expecting a comedy show.” “I could have done a better job.” “It’s just like hanging out at his house,” says a man wearing an “I Believe in Tiger Blood” T-shirt. 10:20 — Sheen plays the track he recorded with Snopp Dogg. But Snoop, despite promises, is a no-show (he was actually back in Los Angeles, performing live on stage at Nickelodeon’s Kids Choice Awards). Rapper Simon Rex comes out instead while Snoop’s video plays in the background. Lights come on. That’s it? Fans angry. When Oliver Stone or whoever makes the inevitable biopic on Charlie Sheen’s life, tonight’s event is definitely making the final cut.
Still winning I see
take bets, it's either getting committed/arrested or he eats a bullet at this point
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Well, if knowledge of pop culture zeitgeist is accurate, this will be a cue towards people beginning to be disinterested in Sheen (finally!) but there will be a brief period of schadenfreude masking as concern/pity for awhile first, and then finally things can get back to the rotating list of celebrity nonsense.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
actually for a lot the fascination keeps growing as the interest transfers from 'people legitimately thinking sheen is being awesome' to people being unable to stop watching because this is like a hypomanic, drug-addled train wreck in slow motion.
this is already worse than the worst you can see on Intervention. Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
Well, if people will pay to see someone who is at least slightly mentally ill (and addicted to nearly everything) on stage, they should probably expect to have wasted their money.
More to the point - what were they expecting? It's just a freak show. And honestly, considering that the guy has five or six kids who now or one day will have to know about all this, very sad.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Two of my friends went to see him here in Detroit, and while they stayed for the whole thing ("We kept waiting for it to get awesome!"), they wanted to leave after the first 20 min or so.
I think the media has done a fantastic job of playing into Sheen's problems, turning him into some sort of trainwreck folk hero. When I asked my friends why in the world they'd actually pay to see Sheen rant on a stage, they said "because it's Charlie Sheen!" as if that were some sort of an obvious answer, or any answer at all really. I also think people want to be a part of spectacles, or once in a life time pop culture experiences. But Sheen ain't Woodstock.
From what I can tell, no one knew what to expect from this, except they expected it to be awesome. I have zero interest in watching Sheen's death spiral, and I'll even admit to occasionally clicking a link related to celebrity news once in awhile on CNN. But this is actually a pretty interesting case of what happens when a star self-destructs, greatly assisted by the media, tries to directly commercialize it, and then ends up reviled when people get a look behind the curtain. Other celebrities have done a good job of being both in the spotlight and elusive at the same time. This is perhaps the biggest recent example that proves celebrity spectacles have absolutely no substance behind them.
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
I wasn't really aware of Charlie Sheen until this whole thing started. I don't really understand why he's so special. What is he positively famous for? What awesomeness is he capable of?
His imdb record seems to be a list of unknown and/or second rate movies. Was he ever good? He seems to be a man in the wrong career.
Posted by Aris Katsaris (Member # 4596) on :
Can someone explain what the thread's title means?
"Drinks the Nescafe"? What the hell? I recognize the name as a brand of coffee, but what the hell does it have to do with anything?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:His imdb record seems to be a list of unknown and/or second rate movies.
Some of his movies were actually pretty stellar.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Why... would anyone pay to see him? This I do not understand.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aris Katsaris: "Drinks the Nescafe"? What the hell? I recognize the name as a brand of coffee, but what the hell does it have to do with anything?
quote:Some of his movies were actually pretty stellar.
Alright... which ones?
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Teshi:
quote:Some of his movies were actually pretty stellar.
Alright... which ones?
Platoon for one. To me that is the definitive movie on the war in Vietnam. He did a fantastic job in that one.
Hot Shots 1 and Part Deux, as well as Major League 1 and 2 were both really funny to me when I was a teenager.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Oh and Wall Street, but I haven't seen that one.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Watch it.
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
I'm 99% sure that means "watch Wall Street," but for some reason I initially read it more as "Be careful, you're on thin ice" or some equivalent.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Link. Looks like Sheen is back on Two and a Half Men, and making 1.8 million per episode for the next two seasons.
Winning! Color me surprised.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
That article is from almost a year ago.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Huh, that's not what the wikipedia time stamp said. I've been had.
Link. Turns out discussions are still taking place, but the fact he could get his job back is still astounding.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
No it's not. Hollywood can forgive almost anything, if enough acting talent and/or money is involved.
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