That spidey POV is pretty cool.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I felt the opposite about the POV and really hope that it's just for the trailer. I would hate it if it were in the real movie. It ruins the entire illusion and is just dizzying.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
Mechanical web-shooters!
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Better than I was expecting, but I am not impressed by the little of the actors American accent. Just because Christian Bale does it without a hitch (maybe some phlegm) does not mean that every British actor should play American characters.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
He's a little too emo for my tastes.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
You like your teenage boys to be more manly Jeff? Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'm digging Emma Stone as Gwenn Stacey, but the casting of Peter seems a bit off to me. Anyone know who/what the villain of this one is?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Garfield is six foot even, he may fit the physical profile of Spider-Man but Peter Parker is meek and something of a victim. Maguire is five foot nine, a small difference but Garfield towers over those teenagers in the hall, not exactly shy little nerdling is he?
Spider-Man is emo just like Batman is a delusional sociopath. Green Arrow is an a-moral child who uses others crimes as an excuse to "play" with his toys. Virtually every fictional character with any depth has parts that can annoy you, the fans even killed Jason Todd because of it.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
But I like the fact that Batman is a delusional sociopath...it's one of his best features.
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
I just don't see the point of a movie, half of which we saw before just 9 years ago. For those who aren't big fans of the comic - mechanical web-shooters, a new girlfriend (look, she's completely different - she's blonde!) and a dodgy accent really isn't going to cut it. If I still have my ticket stub for 'Spiderman', do I get in half price?
At least let more than five years pass after the final film of a series before rebooting it.
For the record, I'm not looking forward to the forthcoming Batman total reboot (after the next movie) either. But the Superman remake, I'm sort of looking forward to.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
If they chose not to make this movie than the owners of the copyright would have to forfeit the ability to make another Spider-Man movie in the future. The rights would have gone back to Marvel, and then to Marvel Studios who have been making much better movies. Last I knew their rights to the Fantastic 4 movies will also be in question soon.
quote: For the record, I'm not looking forward to the forthcoming Batman total reboot (after the next movie) either.
They may surprise you, the studios are picking up on the fact that there are tons of great stories waiting for a bigger audience. Before they went forward with Nolan and his Batman movies WB were working on a live action Batman Beyond. Aside from the fact that non-nerds would be confused they could adapt the Dark Knight Mark Millar books, I really want to see an elderly Bruce Wayne sock Superman in the jaw with a kryptonite gauntlet.
[ July 22, 2011, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: AchillesHeel ]
Posted by Bella Bee (Member # 7027) on :
I think it's a shame that they never got to make Fantastic Four 4. Just for the title.
I believe that there is truly horrific (like the actual released movies were good) version of Fantastic Four that someone made and then locked in a vault simply to keep the rights. Perhaps they could do that again.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
I watched a little of Captain America (circa 1990) on SciFi channel last night...so bad I expected two robot and one human silhouette on the bottom of the screen.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I hear Red Skull is Italian in that. Close enough right?
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Is that what they were trying for? It was so bad it was hard to tell...and I honestly couldn't sit through much of it.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
quote:I really want to see an elderly Bruce Wayne sock Superman in the jaw with a kryptonite gauntlet.
Wait, wait...what?!?! Oh man, I want to see that too!
Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
Hooray! We finally get to see the remake of a plot we saw ten years ago! I thought they would never get around to it.
Seriously, though, wow. Twider-man: New Moon! Featuring first-person shooter sequences rendered live on an Xbox 360! Brought to you by Angst Cola. Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
The first-person sequence looked like mirrors edge. With color.
Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
I'm really quite astounded that this film is happening.
The 2002 film was a big hit and is still very much alive in the cultural consciousness.
I mean, at least 17 years separated 1989's "Batman" and the Nolan reboot. Most people who this new Spiderman film is aimed at probably would have seen the 2002 film in theaters!
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sa'eed: I'm really quite astounded that this film is happening.
While the intention is clear, this is a really funny pair of sentences.
Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
How so?
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Heh, the post was edited between me reading it and quoting it so the second sentence's deletion escaped my notice. Carry on.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
My favorite part of the trailer is the scene between Gwen and Peter in the lab. Just his smile seemed very Peter-esque.
Maybe its because I was raised on 90s-cartoon-Spiderman but I don't think "emo" when I think about Peter Parker. He always seemed like a breath of fresh air compared to moody-Wolverine and moodier-Batman. I liked his enthusiasm. But yeah, the directing on this seems very post-Twilight or something. Peter always seemed like the guy who, when asked about what he likes, would then launch into some overeager science story.
I had been excited about the casting. I think Andrew Garfield did an amazing job in "The Social Network." And I'm impressed by how young he still looks. But I don't hear the problems with the accent. If you wanna hear a bad American accent from a Brit, check out the clips of Tom Felton in the new apes movie. Love the boy but his "American accent" is atrocious.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel: Better than I was expecting, but I am not impressed by the little of the actors American accent. Just because Christian Bale does it without a hitch (maybe some phlegm) does not mean that every British actor should play American characters.
Bale does a barely passing job, as do many Brits. It's just their luck that Americans are far less picky about accents.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Some of Bale's odd phrases I pass off as being spoken by a highly educated trust-fund baby. I have always noticed a difference the accents of upper and lower class, and Bale extends his jaw a lot for the Bruce Wayne scenes which isn't entirely odd for the setting.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_: You like your teenage boys to be more manly Jeff?
Lol I hate you,SW!
quote:I just don't see the point of a movie, half of which we saw before just 9 years ago. For those who aren't big fans of the comic - mechanical web-shooters, a new girlfriend (look, she's completely different - she's blonde!) and a dodgy accent really isn't going to cut it. If I still have my ticket stub for 'Spiderman', do I get in half price?
At least let more than five years pass after the final film of a series before rebooting it.
For the record, I'm not looking forward to the forthcoming Batman total reboot (after the next movie) either. But the Superman remake, I'm sort of looking forward to.
I agree with everything Bella said here. It's annoying when you get so invested with a set of films like Batman or Spiderman, and then four years later they just reboot the whole damn thing, essentially saying that none of that other stuff happened. It's like a giant smack in the face for anyone who liked the last set of films. I understand it's all fiction, but how many times do we need to see Bruce Wayne's parents get shot up, or watch Spiderman get bit by the same stupid spider? We all know it happened. This stuff is part of our history now. Why beat us over the head with it?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
I just want us to progress to the point where franchises reboot mid-movie, just kind of deciding 45 minutes in that it's just really not happening with the old actors/premise and starting anew with a younger lead.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
Younger lead, spend more time on immature angst than story and fund the entire film by filling it with verizon phones, corrola's and everyone drinking mountain dew.
I think this would improve upon the Twilight films... if you can call them films.
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
So far, word from the San Diego Comic-Con on the footage shown there is that the actor nails it, there is significantly more humor than the trailer suggests, and a lot more wire-work and physical FX (i.e. not all CGI). I'm more hopeful than I was.
I get the feeling this will be more of an Ultimate Spider-Man movie than what we've seen before, and I'm perfectly OK with that. The actor and filmmakers specifically cited it as an inspiration.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Just since we are talking about super heroes...Superman sucks. He's boring, he's so clearly Clark Kent that it's not funny, he's doesn't inspire anything but ZZzzZZz in my book...he's just so perfect and unbeatable...forget the krytonite thing, he just isn't human, he's a god who happens to be a really nice guy, and ultimately his story isn't a human story.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
quote:Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_: Just since we are talking about super heroes...Superman sucks. He's boring, he's so clearly Clark Kent that it's not funny, he's doesn't inspire anything but ZZzzZZz in my book...he's just so perfect and unbeatable...forget the krytonite thing, he just isn't human, he's a god who happens to be a really nice guy, and ultimately his story isn't a human story.
That's what makes him so interesting!
Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
The best thing I've come across regarding Superman is the dialogue from the end of "Kill Bill" part 2, which actually touches on why he is boring:
Supposedly Tarantino lifted that from some book about comic books...
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
That's a great speech, but it's not Clark Kent I find boring (not that he is interesting, but still)...it's Superman who is the snoozefest.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
You should read Kingdom Come, it's what really got me interested in Supes.
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
yawn.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I always found Superman to be over powered and very, very bored. Like SW pointed out he is a God, what would he want with money, women, power... he already has all the power anyone could want. Like The Flash everyone one if his atoms moves at super-speed, he literally thinks faster than the speed of light.
Why does Superman fight evils like Darkseid? because its interesting.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
If you haven't read Red Son, do it now. That book is an alternate story about if Superman's ship had landed just 6 hours later...in Russia. It's pretty amazing, especially the twist ending.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Kingdom Come is a comic?
AH: So Superman fights super villains to fight off boredom? That's kinda funny.
Jeff: Red Son is a comic?
I've never been into comics...I own a couple of Punisher Armory's, but I found them on top of the trash on locker clean out day in Jr. High...and I've always like weapons.
Are they online?
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
What else could possibly interest him? humans with super-strength cannot even effect him. Do you think Superman can feel a breeze? does the touch of Lois' hand on his face even register? he is so far beyond human recognition that human experience's are futile to him. Every day is an eternity, questions that befuddle every lesser being around you are depressingly simple, and then Solomon Grundy starts throwing some cars around the downtown area. Right or wrong, wouldn't you take a punch in the mouth from one of the few living beings who can actually make you feel something just to break up the monotony?
I would also like to suggest Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, commonly referred to as the bible of Batman comics.
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Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote: Do you think Superman can feel a breeze? does the touch of Lois' hand on his face even register?
Yes to both. Just because you are nigh-invulnerable doesn't mean your nerves don't work.
I also don't buy the "super thinking" part. Sure a few older versions of him have had that explicit power, but in most depictions he doesn't seem especially bright.
I'm no Superman expert, having mostly read/collected Marvel, but your characterizations seem off to me.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
There are only a couple of characters in DC who exist at a super fast speed. Martian Manhunter, Superman and The Flash are all moving at super speed all the time, despite wether or not they are moving around.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
In reality (i.e. according to physics), if anything moved at superspeed like the Flash or Superman, they'd catch fire. I'm actually surprised they never talk about it in the comics or give any valid reasoning for it. But that's comics for you.
And Stone Wolf, Red Son is a comic and it's in just about every book store that sells comics (like Barnes and Noble and Books a Million, for example), so please go read it. I read the whole thing in less than an hour, which means you don't even have to buy it (although you should).
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
With a 22 month old and a 6 month old, I don't leave the house a lot...nor do I spend money on comic books...but I'll keep it in mind for another time in my life...thanks!
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
Lol, that means never!
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Not never...the boy might like to read a comic or two...you know...once he can read. Heck so might the girl.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
Most libraries carry copies of Red Son, just saying Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
You might be able to find it online, actually. It's very popular Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
I'll look...both online and the library...even though I'm not into comics or Superman...just for you guys Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
Awesome. Let us know how you like it!
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
According to Comic Con, the villain should be The Lizard.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: According to Comic Con, the villain should be The Lizard.
I am now supremely interested in this movie.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel: What else could possibly interest him? humans with super-strength cannot even effect him. Do you think Superman can feel a breeze? does the touch of Lois' hand on his face even register? he is so far beyond human recognition that human experience's are futile to him. Every day is an eternity, questions that befuddle every lesser being around you are depressingly simple, and then Solomon Grundy starts throwing some cars around the downtown area. Right or wrong, wouldn't you take a punch in the mouth from one of the few living beings who can actually make you feel something just to break up the monotony?
Wow, you just made Superman sound incredibly interesting.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
All Star Superman did a good job of portraying the way Superman sees the universe. He is super intelligent and can see the world on an entirely different level, both physically and spiritually (he can see the particles in the air because of his eyes).
Personally, I always liked Superman. He was pretty awesome in Justice League (the cartoon). My favorite quote was when he faced Darkseid, and he said something like, "Every day it's like living in a world of cardboard where I have to constantly watch where I'm stepping, and I'm always pulling punches. But not you. No, big guy, you can take it, can't you."
Awesome.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
But that's exactly why I don't care for Superman, he is constantly holding back and allowing bad things to happen. I would much rather see a book where Superman abandons both his role as a hero and his Kryptonian legacy, and just flips out on everything he considers to be lesser than himself. The Dark Knight Strikes Again comes close to that towards the end, its a great conversation between him and his daughter from Wonder-Woman.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
That series is ongoing right now. It's called Irredeemable.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
I'll second Irredeemable. The relationships in it are kind of weird, though.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
quote:But that's exactly why I don't care for Superman, he is constantly holding back and allowing bad things to happen. I would much rather see a book where Superman abandons both his role as a hero and his Kryptonian legacy, and just flips out on everything he considers to be lesser than himself.
There's also the newer versions of Hyperion and Squadron Supreme, Marvel's alternate universe analogues to Superman and the Justice League. Hyperion is identical to Superman, except instead of being raised by Ma and Pa Kent, the US government found his crashed rocket, and kind of botched the job of raising him. So he's angry.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
........ *sigh* And I was all set to hate this movie. Oh well.
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
Um... hm. That actually looks good.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Seriously. I was like, "We don't need this movie." Now I'm like. "Hmmm, I'd pay 5 bucks for that."
Clearly studio executives know me better than I know myself.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
So long as it brings the franchise back up into the neighborhood of quality of the second flick, I'll be quite happy.
Not sure how I feel about Leary as Capt. Stacy, though. I enjoy him, he's fun, but Leary always just seems to be playing himself in shows I've seen. Not sure how he'll do.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Seriously. I was like, "We don't need this movie." Now I'm like. "Hmmm, I'd pay 5 bucks for that."
Clearly studio executives know me better than I know myself.
Your Google cookies, hard at work.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
I had kinda been concerned about Andrew Garfield being geeky enough for Peter Parker, but he seems to be pulling it off. I still hate his hair though.
But yeah, it looks good and I'd spend $8 to see it (going matinee price around here.)
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
I'm still surprised that the actor is 28 years old. Not bad for someone pushing 30.
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
It's not a bad trailer, but I don't know that I'd describe it as "amazing".
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Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I would. I'd go see this one, I think. Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
Yeah it looks pretty good, actually. I'm surprised to be as impressed as I am.
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jake: It's not a bad trailer, but I don't know that I'd describe it as "amazing".
Astonishing? Maybe, Spectacular? Possibly, sensational?
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
quote:Originally posted by T:man:
quote:Originally posted by Jake: It's not a bad trailer, but I don't know that I'd describe it as "amazing".
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: I was skeptical. Now I'm enthused. But I agree with whomever about the kid's hair.
Just imagine it is J.D. from Scrubs.
Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel:
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: I was skeptical. Now I'm enthused. But I agree with whomever about the kid's hair.
Just imagine it is J.D. from Scrubs.
Or Edward from Twilight. Peter definitely looks like a copy of that stereotype.
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I don't hate J.D.
I'll stick with J.D. in case the movie is worth liking.
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeff C.: In reality (i.e. according to physics), if anything moved at superspeed like the Flash or Superman, they'd catch fire. I'm actually surprised they never talk about it in the comics or give any valid reasoning for it. But that's comics for you.
I'm pretty sure they have. It's called the Speed Force. Magic, in other words.
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