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Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
While driving in an urban environment when everyone climbs up my tail pipe because I didn't speed headlong at a red light only to slam on brakes once there. Is there some kind of prize to being the first one to skid to a halt?

Why are people in such a durn hurry? The end effect is just poor gas mileage and wear on their breaks and likely even more time spent on the road.

There was a time in this country when people went out for a drive just for the pure enjoyment of it.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Also, those jeans where the waistline is cut down to butt crack level...if you are a skinny minny they are okay, but if you are a full bodied girl, don't wear them! Muffin tops are delicious when speaking of baked goods, not fashion. Get a jean that actually takes into account your curves and doesn't propel them outward into a roll...your hips and hiney will look great in a full waisted pant.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Hey Taco Bell, I just ordered food for four people, can I get more then two napkins in the bag without having to ask every durn time?
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Stop playing your durn music so loud in your car, it is incredibly bad for your ears and nearly no one else wants to hear your crappy mariachi/rap music!
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
I have a newly developed pet peeve.
 
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
I'll bite.

People who block pathways/corridors/aisle's/doorways through inattentiveness. It's not that they're purposefully clogging the pipes, but talking to someone in a room while standing in the doorway to said room is a quick way to press Vadon's peeve-button. Just move forward a couple feet and I can scoot right past you without any problem. Even one foot forward is manageable, though we may become uncomfortably intimate for a moment as I smoosh my way past.

Now you might say, "Oh, just ask them to move forward!" But that's a silly, simple, reasonable solution. I expect people to conform to my desires without me making them known. I also believe that people should be aware of their surroundings and their placement within them. Also, I don't want to be rude and interrupt their conversation. I'd much rather just breathe down your neck for a while until you get the message.

Another pet peeve is when I'm in a meeting or just talking with someone. If the conversation comes to an end or a lull and I get up to go elsewhere, then I don't want you to start talking to me when I'm at the door. I'm at the door. Leaving. As in I'm going elsewhere. I was just in the room for a good while, if you had something to say, you could have said it before I decided you were no longer worth my time.

A last pet peeve is grammar nazis who nitpick silly things and then make mistakes of their own. The most common culprit? "In regards to" My view is so long as you adapt to your environment, are understandable, and aren't trolling that typos and grammatical mistakes are completely forgivable. But if you're going to get on someone's case for using the wrong "there," "its," or "your" I expect perfection from you in all things you write.

[ August 22, 2011, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Vadon ]
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Also, those jeans where the waistline is cut down to butt crack level...if you are a skinny minny they are okay, but if you are a full bodied girl, don't wear them! Muffin tops are delicious when speaking of baked goods, not fashion. Get a jean that actually takes into account your curves and doesn't propel them outward into a roll...your hips and hiney will look great in a full waisted pant.

Because low rise pants are the fashion, it can be hard to obtain pants that don't do this.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
What pooka said.

I am always on the lookout for something that makes me look as young as I am, but actually fits. This is very difficult and involves hundreds of pairs of jeans having been tried on. I'm actually thinking of ordering some of the pair that I already have from Old Navy... because I can't actually find jeans that fit in the UK.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Sorry girls, I hadn't even considered this...stupid fashion! It's easier to find what you are looking for in the men's section.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm all for recycling and using less material in a product, but for God's sake, give us a whole cap on our water bottles, these half caps are murder on my hands and nearly impossible to open one handed. Considering I use tons and tons of bottled water in bottles for the girl, and most of the time I'm trying to balance a two bottles (one water, one baby) and two lids and pour and reclose both all with a 7 month old screaming her head off, I could use a little help by having bottles with real top.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
Are you zoned for this many pets?
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
They are only virtual pets.

I forgot to feed one and it died, now I'm okay with Beaber hair. Damn it!
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
While driving in an urban environment when everyone climbs up my tail pipe because I didn't speed headlong at a red light only to slam on brakes once there. Is there some kind of prize to being the first one to skid to a halt?

Why are people in such a durn hurry? The end effect is just poor gas mileage and wear on their breaks and likely even more time spent on the road.

There was a time in this country when people went out for a drive just for the pure enjoyment of it.

You must not have a very long commute. [Wink]

Anyway in an urban setting, there is a good reason for this behavior. The more closely you follow a person going through a light, the more people after you will make it through the light. There is a certain safety trade-off, of course.

Incidentally it bugs the crap out of me when people leave entire car lengths of space at lights. Now the line is backed up past the turn lane and I need to wait an extra cycle to take a left.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I'm a stay at home dad at the moment...so yea, my commute is rather short.

It isn't just about tailgating, which is annoying, but that everyone wants to speed directly at red lights, even when there are cars stopped at the intersection and if the light were to change they would still have to slam on their breaks to avoid an accident. They are so committed to speeding that they don't care that they have no where to go.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
The same reasoning still applies, especially if the distance between lights is rather small. If you take your sweet time in that situation, fewer people behind you make it trough the light you just went through, regardless of the color of the light ahead.

EtA: I mean "you" here in the general sense. I'm not trying to accuse you of being a poor driver.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
It's far more efficient to coast towards an intersection that is red, slowly decelerating, giving the light more time to change while maintaining more velocity in case it does, while lessening the stress on your breaks if it doesn't.

What I'm talking about isn't getting through an intersection, but approaching one that is red, and the people who don't look up at the light mid block but just accelerate as if there wasn't a light and it wasn't red and then at the very last second, (again, even if there are a line of fully stopped cars) slam on the breaks.
 
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
Turn signals. I don't think I have to elaborate on that one.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
It's far more efficient to coast towards an intersection that is red, slowly decelerating, giving the light more time to change while maintaining more velocity in case it does, while lessening the stress on your breaks if it doesn't.

What I'm talking about isn't getting through an intersection, but approaching one that is red, and the people who don't look up at the light mid block but just accelerate as if there wasn't a light and it wasn't red and then at the very last second, (again, even if there are a line of fully stopped cars) slam on the breaks.

I understand what you're talking about. I imagine you're thinking about your own personal fuel efficiency, and the kind of rural highway situation where the more consistent your speed, the better.

This doesn't always apply in a dense urban setting. In this setting, if you coast towards an upcoming red light, slowly decelerating, it's very possible that behind you other drivers are not going to make their traffic light (the one you've already passed).

Basically, I'm talking about the difference between personal fuel efficiency and overall traffic flow efficiency.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Not at all. I'm talking about people who are aggressively accelerating into situations where they will in mere seconds need to slam on their breaks. Rural highways have nothing to do with it what so ever. And as for overall traffic flow efficiency, when there aren't cars already stopped, coasting allows the whole group to make the next light instead of packing up at the red with a full stop and then having to wait while each car in line gets the space to move again.
 
Posted by Phillyn (Member # 12597) on :
 
People who say "Myself" instead of "Me". For instance, "When you've finished,return it to myself" instead of "return it to me". It's like "me" is no longer a word!
Also, people who walk out of a doorway into a reasonably busy hall in one direction while looking in the other!
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
The phrase "there is nothing worse than...". It's almost a challenge...like, "Pfff, I can think of something worse."

There is a car battery commercial which states, "There is nothing worse then a dead battery." Are you guys really that limited in your imagination?

How about: being castrated...with a broken bottle...of hot sauce. That sounds worse then a calling AAA.
 
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AchillesHeel:
Turn signals. I don't think I have to elaborate on that one.

Hoo boy. I hear you on that one. I hate it when people use turn signals. Hate it hate it hate it!
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jake:
quote:
Originally posted by AchillesHeel:
Turn signals. I don't think I have to elaborate on that one.

Hoo boy. I hear you on that one. I hate it when people use turn signals. Hate it hate it hate it!
Or when they yell at you for changing lanes at the obvious time without signalling. Why do I need a little light to tell you what only a dolt wouldn't realize I'm doing?
 
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
 
Exactly!
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
The phrase "there is nothing worse than...". It's almost a challenge...like, "Pfff, I can think of something worse."
Hyperliteralism.

Oh, and hypocrisy.
 
Posted by Aros (Member # 4873) on :
 
- Talking on the phone while driving. Yes, I'm sure you're the exception, but please stop veering into my lane.

- People who assume that since they're backing out slowly (in a parking lot), they don't have to look behind them. Maybe people will get out of your way -- maybe not.

- People who use the word "whenever" to refer to one specific instance. Example: "Whenever I had my gallbladder removed, my doctor was really nice." This actually means that a) you've had your gallbladder removed more than once, and b) you dealt with a nice doctor each time.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
The phrase "there is nothing worse than...". It's almost a challenge...like, "Pfff, I can think of something worse."
Hyperliteralism.

Oh, and hypocrisy.

Just regular old literalism...but how is it hypocrisy?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
It's hypocrisy (or something similar) for me to complain about another's hyperliteralism.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
Porter has several patents on his hyperliteralism.
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 9735) on :
 
For me, I treat "whenever" as a '*' not even a '+' [Wink]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
It's hypocrisy (or something similar) for me to complain about another's hyperliteralism.

Feel free...and I still say it isn't hyperliteralism, just regular style.
 
Posted by Rawrain (Member # 12414) on :
 
-Pants at half mast*, drives me insane...
(the exception is deliberate mooning)

-The click clack thing flip flops do...

-Oversize sunglasses, a few music stars wore them and now this fad refuses to die, it looks dumb and serves no purpose /:

-Drunk moronic rich kids, being considered role models, jersey shore should be taken off the air.....

-People who wear wife beaters out in public.....

-Wearing hats indoors...

-Being ruff with the chalkboard.

-Watching sports, you can really tolerate sitting there watching people ram each other O_o guess you feel like you're really in the game, even though you have enough friends to go play the game yourself.

-Parents insisting their children do everything like they say, as the parents do the opposite. (Don't drink or smoke it's bad for you! -puffs cigarette-)
Rofl, "Do as I say, not as I do"... where does that come from, I heard it from somewhere...

[ August 31, 2011, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: Rawrain ]
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
Aren't the oversize sunglasses an attempt to protect the skin around the eyes from sun damage? Nothing makes a celebrity looks old and used faster than crow's feet, right?
 
Posted by Rawrain (Member # 12414) on :
 
Even if there's a logical point supporting it, it still drives me nuts, the point of sunglasses is to protect your eyes, if you wanna protect your skin use sunblock .-.

Also, big raccoon rings being left by said over-sized sunglasses.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rawrain:
Even if there's a logical point supporting it, it still drives me nuts, the point of sunglasses is to protect your eyes, if you wanna protect your skin use sunblock .-.

Light creeps in from the sides, too. Large sunglasses actually help keep the sun out of my eyes, amazingly enough. [Razz]
 
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rawrain:
-Pants at half mass, drives me insane...

Mast
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I don't know Jake, maybe he is driven crazy by pants which weigh half what they should.
 
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
 
Those are pretty annoying.
 
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
 
On land, it's half-staff - at sea, it's half-mast.

(sorry, copy editor mode kicked in)

I've got a whole slew of pet peeves.

People who pass me so they can turn right within a block (urban) or a quarter-mile (rural). Non-use of turn signals.

People who act like they've never driven in winter weather before - every year we go through this. (Which may be why my car was rear-ended at stoplights twice in 10 days earlier this year. I had left plenty of space between my car and the next one, but the people behind me drove as through the streets were dry.)

People who don't completely clear their windows and windshield in winter time, leaving small spaces to see from, and then drive right out in front of people, causing them to have to put the brakes on.

Reporters (copy editor mode again) who don't check that they are spelling words correctly, especially foreign words and homophones. Which is how we get poporri and people pouring over maps. (I can't actually remember how she spelled pot pourri, but the pour/pore thing was just this week. She also apparently didn't check a website address, which had a wrong extension, but I caught that. Yes, I realize that copy editors are supposed to catch things, but reporters are also supposed to get facts straight and do spell-check.

People in management who say "work smarter, not harder" but don't let us replace people who leave, or at least not in a timely manner. Which has led to a person leaving, a person hired on the leaving person's last day who then decided not to take the job, and now a whole slew (again) of things that the person who left did that NOBODY at work knows how to do. I can do some of it, but not all. And this means I can't take any more vacation days because one of the duties is processing obits, and after Friday there will only be two people who can do them and the other person only works two evenings a week.

Me, because I am lazy and time-wasting, and perfectly procrastinating even when experience has shown me that procrastination is rarely helpful. Usually it means losing money or missing opportunities.
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
Idiots who can't be fired.

We have a building maintance guy who really tops the cake. Yesterday, he was locking up the building and tried to lock the burgler proof gates to a room where I was holding a meeting with 10 other members of the faculty. It took me 5 minutes to persuade him that he couldn't just lock 11 of us in the room. (Today and tomorrow are public holidays. We could have been stuck in there for 2 and half days.)

BTW: This is not a pet peeve, it's a service peeve.
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CaySedai:
People who pass me so they can turn right within a block (urban) or a quarter-mile (rural). Non-use of turn signals.

Similarly, I can't say how many times I've been driving down a multi-lane street - not a highway, just a surface street - where I am in the left lane, and there is a person tailgating me and gesturing angrily because I'm not going fast enough for him to get in front of the person beside him, so he can make a right turn. I'm in the left lane. You're turning right. I am not in your way.

I think this might be a Vegas thing. Nowhere else have I seen such a huge population of drivers for whom it is anathema to deign to merge *behind* another car.

quote:
Originally posted by CaySedai:

Reporters (copy editor mode again) who don't check that they are spelling words correctly, especially foreign words and homophones. Which is how we get poporri and people pouring over maps. (I can't actually remember how she spelled pot pourri, but the pour/pore thing was just this week. She also apparently didn't check a website address, which had a wrong extension, but I caught that. Yes, I realize that copy editors are supposed to catch things, but reporters are also supposed to get facts straight and do spell-check.

*squick*

http://www.xkcd.com/859/

I was amused to see this in a section about copy editing. [Smile]
 
Posted by martha (Member # 141) on :
 
I have a theory about those cars that cut you off. Usually, if someone pulls out in front of you (from a driveway, parking lot, or parking space), overestimating the distance available for them to accelerate, it's almost always because they're just going as far as the next available right turn, as if that would make it okay that they forced you to slow down.

And don't even get me started on my litany of pet peeves about how motorists treat bicyclists.
 
Posted by katdog42 (Member # 4773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Phillyn:
People who say "Myself" instead of "Me". For instance, "When you've finished,return it to myself" instead of "return it to me". It's like "me" is no longer a word!
Also, people who walk out of a doorway into a reasonably busy hall in one direction while looking in the other!

This drives me completely crazy as well! Nobody else can return something to "myself"... only I can give myself something. "You" have to give it to "me." Also, I'm bothered by the use of "I" as the object of a preposition, as in "You can give that to Chris or I." NOOOOO!!! It really is okay to give it to Chris and me, I promise. Me is an objective case pronoun and, the last time I checked, still acceptable in the English language.
 
Posted by peeer (Member # 12635) on :
 
Now you ability say, "Oh, just ask them to move advanced!" But that's a asinine, simple, reasonable band-aid. I apprehend humans to accommodate to my desires after me authoritative them accepted. I aswell accept that humans should be acquainted of their ambience and their adjustment aural them. aswell, I don't wish to be abrupt and arrest their chat. I'd abundant rather just breathe down your close for a while until you get the bulletin.

addition pet annoyance is if I'm in a affair or just talking with anyone. If the chat comes to an end or a abeyance and I get up to go abroad, again I don't wish you to alpha talking to me if I'm at the aperture. I'm at the aperture. abrogation. As in I'm traveling abroad. I was just in the allowance for a acceptable while, if you had something to say, you could accept said it afore I absitively you were no best account my time.

A endure pet annoyance is grammar nazis who bother asinine things and again accomplish mistakes of their own. The a lot of accepted culprit? "In commendations to" My appearance is so continued as you acclimate to your ambiance, are barefaced, and aren't trolling that typos and grammatical mistakes are absolutely forgivable. But if you're traveling to get on anyone's case for application the amiss "there," "its," or "your" I apprehend accomplishment from you in all things you address.

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[ September 05, 2011, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Which language did you translate Vadon's post to, and then back to English to get your post?

And what's up with those sales links?
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
Doctors who believe that their only function is to lecture me about losing weight. I have a mother for that. Here's a clue, if the lecture worked, there would be no more fat people. I know that losing weight would help my indigestion but could we maybe get me some Nexium in the meantime so I could avoid the throat irritation while I am feeling lousy about being fat?

Grrrrr.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Fat is a four letter word...don't trust them boots, a little bit o' extra keeps ya warm at night...those skinny minnys are always cold.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
Thanks. It isn't that I think he is wrong. Just unpleasant and ineffective.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Kate, I have had quite a few doctors like that. I am very, very glad that my current doctors (primary, endo, and pulmonologist) are very low-key on things like that, and NOT pushy. It's a nice change. [Razz]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Except for extreme cases, it seems to me at least that happiness is more important to your overall health then a few extra lbs.

If you are unhappy, then do something about it! If you like food and don't hurt yourself with it and are happy, then be happy, screw the MD, they always want people to be ribs and hip bones.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
I think (after talking with some other people that go to that practice) that part of the problem is that he is a DO rather than an MD. I do generally agree with the principles of self regulation and so forth up to a point, but I go to doctors when I am past that point and need medicine. As he hasn't even looked at my chart before my appointment and doesn't know me from Adam, his questions about "what I do for fun" and lifestyle in general strike me as intrusive and insincere and annoying.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
IME, DO v. MD really makes very little difference. I've had MDs who pulled almost that identical shtick, and DOs who didn't do anything of the sort.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
Yeah, the two have become just about interchangeable. It may explain his reluctance to just write a darn prescription though. And he really doesn't seem to be paying attention. For example, about a year ago I had a yeast infection and was prescribed the usual stuff. When going over my list of medications, the dr. asked if I were still taking it. That doesn't seem to be the question of someone who is paying attention.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
O_o

Um. Yeah.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
I had a really hard time suppressing my patented "you are too stupid to live" expression and tone on that one.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Understandable.
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
Kate, your doctor reminds me of my OB, who I've had for the previous two pregnancies. Near the end of the last one, he happened to notice that I was five pounds heavier than at the same point in the first. Did he ask any questions to find out if I was eating a healthy diet? (I was) No. His exact words were, "Hey, lay off the junk food." I was so furious that all I could do was splutter at him that I didn't even eat junk food!

Remembering that exchange still makes me angry any time I think about it, over a year later.

--Mel
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
Good heavens! Did you find a new doctor? I hate judgey doctors. Bleh.
 
Posted by theCrowsWife (Member # 8302) on :
 
Unfortunately, he was really the only one available. I was only willing to deliver at one hospital within reasonable distance, and he's one of only two OBs who work there, and the other doctor wasn't taking new patients at the time I was looking. I don't intend to have any more babies for a while, maybe never, so the situation may have changed if I ever need an OB again. If not, at least he's the devil that I know. [Wink]

--Mel
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
It is nearly impossible to contact unemplyment in my state over the phone...their system just says "We already have more callers then we can handle" and hangs up on you, and has for months.

I wonder where they could find some people to hire for more phone operators...if only they had a list of folk seeking employment.
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
Do they not have some automated system of putting you in a queue and calling you back?
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
No! They do not...one of two things happen...

One: the puter says we are full up and hangs up on you instantly.

Two: the puter greets you in two languages, and if you hit any button it hangs up on you...then you pick your language...then is the 2 minute announcement about President Obama extending federal extensions....which you can't skip...then you want the 6th option, the 7th option, 3rd option, 1st option, input your SSN, confirm your SSN, input your pin, confirm your pin, brief announcement then...

A: you get to talk to someone (super rare)

B: brief announcement and they hang up on you.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Okay, so my wife is a CMA (Certified Medical Assistant), and has all her prereqs to go to RN school...then they added another one. Intermediate algebra. Now mind you, this is at a community college, not UCLA. The credits are $46 each, 4 credits for this class, the book and program combo are about $200, plus $25 for a parking permit, and you are over $400 for a skill nurses don't need.

Can anyone tell me why (other then for making money) a Registered Nurse would need to know intermediate algebra?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Calculating dosages, I'd imagine. Or it may simply be part of a core requirement for a B.Science, if she doesn't already have one and they require one for their RN cert.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Pretty sure that knowing that x+6/4x^2+25x+25 + x/4x^2+23x+15 equals 2(4x^2+16x+9)/(x+5)(4x+5)(4x=3) has nothing to do with dosages.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Pet peeve: There is no one word for the concept of "not ripe enough".
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
"Unripe".
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
My job is really starting to peeve me. I'm in the OB field and I can't even tell girls to lay off the junk food without them trying to bite my head off. I mean, seriously? I'm the medical professional here, and
 
Posted by capaxinfiniti (Member # 12181) on :
 
I'm not a pronunciation nazi and people pronouncing things in odd or different ways rarely bothers me, but when someone says "fo-ward" instead of "for-ward" I find it incredibly annoying. I first noticed it while listening to the audio book version of Brian Greene's The Hidden Reality (the author was the reader) and once I realized it bothered me I began hearing it all the time. Luckily, from what I've noticed, it's a mid-western/east-coast thing so I don't hear it in every day conversation. Only every day on NPR...
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Pretty sure that knowing that x+6/4x^2+25x+25 + x/4x^2+23x+15 equals 2(4x^2+16x+9)/(x+5)(4x+5)(4x=3) has nothing to do with dosages.

It depresses me that you believe this to be true.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Easily depressed riv?
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Only by the state of math/science education in our nation.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Gotta have a hobby.
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Pretty sure that knowing that x+6/4x^2+25x+25 + x/4x^2+23x+15 equals 2(4x^2+16x+9)/(x+5)(4x+5)(4x=3) has nothing to do with dosages.

It depresses me that you believe this to be true.
I'm assuming the thing he believes to be true that depresses you is that the first equation equals the second equation. Not the comment about dosages.

Because, although "algebra" is used to calculate doses, it's true that the algebra you do really doesn't bear any resemblance to his (incorrect) equation. And it's been a long time since I was in school, but the algebra required for dosage doesn't seem like intermediate to me, seems like the sort of thing you'd understand after basic.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Nitpicking over which specific bit of algebra is or is not needed to calculate dosages is what depresses me. It usually indicates someone who does all math by rote.

Algebra should be about learning ways of thinking about math problems, not just learning step 1, step 2, step 3. Factoring, and what it means to find factors, IS conceptually related to ratios and thus to dosages.

As for what "intermediate algebra" is, that can mean all sorts of things. Depends on the school, the state, the accrediting agency, the phase of the moon, and all sorts of things.
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Nitpicking over which specific bit of algebra is or is not needed to calculate dosages is what depresses me. It usually indicates someone who does all math by rote.

Algebra should be about learning ways of thinking about math problems, not just learning step 1, step 2, step 3. Factoring, and what it means to find factors, IS conceptually related to ratios and thus to dosages.

You do the opposite of depress me. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
As for what "intermediate algebra" is, that can mean all sorts of things. Depends on the school, the state, the accrediting agency, the phase of the moon, and all sorts of things.

Fair enough!
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Gotta have a hobby.
Says the guy whose hobby is expressing annoyance at the supposed nonexistence of a word that he could have easily looked up in the dictionary himself. [Razz]
 
Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
In fairness, "unripe" is kind of a lousy word.

Up there with "ruthful."
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
In fairness, "unripe" is kind of a lousy word.

I find this bizarre. I grew up using it as a perfectly ordinary word.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Dan, unless you are referring to where I didn't hit shift so (4x+3) came out (4x=3)...those two fractions do add up to the answer I gave.

rivka, this level of algebra is not about understanding how the math works, it is a giant bog of crap where you have to do each and every step perfectly or else your answer is wrong. It is arduous, an exhausting burden of math where perfection is required and it will never ever ever be used in real life not once ever. Yes, the concepts can be helpful, but those were mastered in basic algebra, or in algebra, not in intermediate.

Here is the background to this: My wife is working 45+ hours a week, five days a week, she has this math class 4 days a week, four hours a day, and a CNA class on the weekends. She wakes up and leaves the house before our children are awake seven days a week, and gets home after they are put to bed 4 days a week. And has enough homework from both classes that if I don't step in and do her math homework for her she wouldn't have time to sleep. Meanwhile she is struggling mightily to grasp this useless crap.

She had -all- her prereqs done for RN school, except the CNA class...and RN school is next semester. And then they changed their standards to include intermediate algebra. A class which teaches stuff that has zero applicability to being an RN. This accelerated summer version was the only one available, or else she could put off RN school for a whole year.

So, forgive me if it depresses you that it bugs me that they make her take this expensive and useless class which keeps her so busy I have to send her pictures of the kids so she can see them at all most days of the week.

[ July 02, 2012, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: Stone_Wolf_ ]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I have a great deal of sympathy for students overloaded with work + classes + trying to have a life. I went through it, and my job involves me trying to help many students in similar situations now. I also have a great deal of sympathy for students stuck with changing requirements, and the various related issues that come from educational bureaucracies.

I also have a great deal of sympathy for students dealing with classes using methodology that is often far from ideal, and does not necessarily teach what it should theoretically be teaching.

However, I think it is terrible how little math and science are required by many colleges as basic core requirements. IMO, what is most often called intermediate algebra should be required for every single recipient of a bachelor's degree, and probably every recipient of a two-year degree.

I'm not in favor of changing such requirements for already-admitted students, though. That just sucks.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Thanks for the sympathy...my wife is one of the hardest working people I know...and she has a venous malformation in her brain so she works harder then most people while suffering a constant headache.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Blizzard says, we will have everything up by 10 am.

Blizzard's official sever status says everything is up.

The auction house is down.

The lies continue.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
It always bugs me when movie posters with actors on them and the actor's names are in the wrong order, like this, or this instead of this or this. It's like the art designer and the type setter aren't talking.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Believe it or not, that is often the product of lengthy negotiation.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
Just about every pet peeve I have can be traced back to "people who clearly expect the world to accommodate them."

And the sound of someone eating, for some reason. Not a problem if I'm also eating, or if we're watching something, but someone eating something near me squicks me. I have no idea why.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Believe it or not, that is often the product of lengthy negotiation.

Well, if the names have to be in some order because of stroking actors egos, they should simply put the pictures in that order! Like the stupid looking Sandler/Sandburg movie, you could just take the reverse of the picture super easy.
 
Posted by DustinDopps (Member # 12640) on :
 
Stone - my wife is an LPN (a level of nurse below RN) and we went through the same stuff when she was in nursing school. Once she finishes it will all be worth it. I promise. I'm soooo glad my wife chose such a flexible, stable career.
 
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
quote:
Well, if the names have to be in some order because of stroking actors egos, they should simply put the pictures in that order!
That's what Tom is getting at. When you have two stars in the movie, both want to be top billing (leftmost and topmost) in name and picture. So you compromise and one gets top billing in the pic and one in the text.

Stupid, but there you have it.

To be fair, I've only heard of something like this once, for the poster here. Where McQueen (name and pic) is leftmost but Newman is given an odd vertical boost.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
 
Off topic, I'm naming my first dog "Peeves" so I can introduce my dog as "My pet Peeves".
 
Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
I am pleased.
 
Posted by vegimo (Member # 12618) on :
 
15 years ago I had a cat named Peeve.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Why do they always package granola bars in a box that could clearly take two more bars? It's bad enough that individually wrapped bars need a box at all, but one that is too big?

I mean, is this so hard?
 


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