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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
FINALLY! Man. It's way overdue, and the teasers and interviews have been killing me! If it's even half as good as the original I'm going to be thrilled. Thanks for posting this.

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Originally posted by T:man:
Everyone! We can get the premiere episode 20 days early! Just go here and "like" the page on facebook. 100k of that and we get the episode march 24! (8 days from now) We're just above halfway there, and there are a number of ways in addition to "liking" to *up* the counter. If you click around on the paisho board, there are 3 hidden pieces of concept art, each one you find counts as a +1 to the 100k goal.

The link again:

http://www.korranation.com/

(Wow I sound like some viral marketer, I'm not! I promise, just really excited!)

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But then what will I do at the premier party I've already invited people to? :-/.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
Not tell anyone you've already watched it on the nick website
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
The first episode was leaked due to incompetence on Nick's part.

It is glorious.

(The premiere will be episodes 1 and 2, though)
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I'm tempted to go find it. But I think I'll wait until the big day. Glad to see you like it though.

I've already heard some of the music from it and it sounds great.
 

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Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
Yeah, don't watch it. It makes it that much harder to wait so long fot the second episode.

I was just coming to say how much I enjoy the music styling. The fight scenes were insanely good. Its amazing how they're able to animate such intricate movements.

There's one thing in particular about Korra's background that is annoying me but since the first episode feels very much like a small piece of a bigger introduction, I'll wait to see if they comment on it more.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
I watched a teaser on the facebook page, is her mount a... polardog?
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Yep!

Polar bear dog.
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
Hey, that's my bday! Freaking awesome.

I loved the first show tremendously, but honestly I probably won't watch this until the entire series is over. I hate waiting for new episodes and I watched the entire first series (Avatar: TLA) all in one week (best. week. ever.) and I'd like to just do that again. Supposedly this series is only going to be about 24 episodes (give or take), but who knows. Maybe it will get more?
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
It was only supposed to be half that to start. Something tells me Korra won't get more, or if it does, it'll be a new distinct story since these two half seasons are self contained. But at the very least I bet we get more Avatar. Nick loves it, It's wildly popular, and the creators have already said they have a lot more stories to tell.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
It must be popular to survive that dreadful movie.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Thankfully, it was highly popular BEFORE the movie. It was the highest rated show in Nick's history.

No one who saw the show first then saw the movie would get a bad vibe from a new show. Most of them knew that the creators of the show had nothing to do with the movie.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
Nick is our friend. They're releasing the first TWO episodes this Friday (on the korranation website). It will probably be only streaming quality, but oh well.
 

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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
Saw the leaked version online so here's thoughts:

1) The animation reminds me eerily of The Boondocks in animation style, it's very Animesque in the sense that American "anime" tends to see the exaggerated shonen expressions and goes a step further, balanced by higher budget so they luckily don't go super deformed on us like say in Fullmetal Alchemist.

2) The new firenation uniforms are AWESOME, they are pretty much how I was designing uniforms for a militaristic nation in one of my own nation (though mine are black/dark purple not red).

3) Everyone IS KungFU FIghT-ING! *plays music* Lots of fanservicy action (the good kind of fan service) this episode, clearly they want to hook people in and not let them go. Only way for the fighting to have been better is to have Jackie Chan fight Summer Glau.

4) Steve Blum as the antagonist. Nuff' Said.

5) Polar Wolf-Bear-Dog! Stephen Colbert will be hiding under his desk.

6) More Zeppelins! Quasi steampunk!

7) Most Epic Trolling of all time. You all know the moment.

Can't wait for more.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
(Psst it's a polar bear Labrador)
 

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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I'm going with my gut here, as everyone knows there's more nerves in my gut.
 

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Most Epic Trolling of all time. You all know the moment

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I'm actually not sure which moment you mean. Or perhaps I don't understand what you mean by trolling. A further hint?

EDIT: Nevermind, I realized what you mean. The scene that contained the phrase "I've been dying to ask you".

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
I like the professional bending game they've come up with. It has enough rules and professionalism to make it sound pretty interesting. I'm still not quite sure how the whole rounds versus zones thing works, but I'm guess we'll get more as time goes on.

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It looked like an anime with fewer of the lazy elements of the medium, like lip-flapping, Ken Burnsing, and overly stylized reaction shots, and more of the grace and complexity of American cartoons, with more than one thing happening on screen at a time.

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I waited this long to watch the original series only because when I suggested to my roommate that we watch it, he replied that he had seen it, and he was uninterested because it was "kind of trying to be a kid's show" and "they could have done more with it." (He was unable to elaborate on any details. Now that I've watched the first season of the original show, I should try to weasel out a less vague response.) They certainly have done more with the Legend of Korra so far.

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Katara was tall enough for a twelve year old. Keep in mind how much older Korra is than Katara or Toph.

And Kyoshi was massive.

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who suffered more at the hands of benders than the poor cabbage merchant?

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Let me throw out another theory.

Amon's face is shielded because he visited the spirit world and it was stolen by Ko. So he has no face, but Ko taught him how to energy bend.

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On another note, I'm 20 minutes into the live action movie, which I've never seen before...and it's horrible.

I mean, just awful.

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Let me throw out another theory.

Amon's face is shielded because he visited the spirit world and it was stolen by Ko. So he has no face, but Ko taught him how to energy bend.

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
I think it should be the Cabbage Merchant's grandson.

After all, who suffered more at the hands of benders than the poor cabbage merchant?

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Originally posted by SteveRogers:
For some reason, I doubt this will be the case, but this would definitely be the coolest explanation I've heard so far. I'm hoping the new series acknowledges the spirit world's role in the Avatar mythology at some point in it's apparently brief run.

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Let me throw out another theory.

Amon's face is shielded because he visited the spirit world and it was stolen by Ko. So he has no face, but Ko taught him how to energy bend.

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By far the best theory.

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Let me throw out another theory.

Amon's face is shielded because he visited the spirit world and it was stolen by Ko. So he has no face, but Ko taught him how to energy bend.

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For some reason, I doubt this will be the case, but this would definitely be the coolest explanation I've heard so far. I'm hoping the new series acknowledges the spirit world's role in the Avatar mythology at some point in it's apparently brief run.

In other news, I'm kinda bummed most reports seem to suggest Legend of Korra is only supposed to run for two seasons. I'm hoping the fan support will help sway that tide a little.

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Let me throw out another theory.

Amon's face is shielded because he visited the spirit world and it was stolen by Ko. So he has no face, but Ko taught him how to energy bend.

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By far the best theory.

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
It was originally supposed to only be 10 or 12 episodes. Thankfully they doubled it. Supposedly there's still a chance for more, but they'd have to do it soon, otherwise all the material will already be written, at which point it's hard to tack more on without it being weird.

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Yeah I found that odd as well. It didn't look anything like the energy bending we've already experienced...so either he isn't really doing it, or what we saw with Aang was some sort of special window into it, rather than what it would have looked like to anyone else.

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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
That's actually slightly disappointing. I was hoping for a longer payoff. For all the drama we've already seen, it's actually kind of a let down to know Korra will solve the problem in 9 more episodes. The end of TLA was so much more dramatic because the tension had been building for so long.

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I agree with this. I'm worried a shorter season will make it seem like less is really at stake.
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
Well, it's the scope of the thing. At the very core, Amon is just a thug. He has a couple of minions, perhaps an edge in energybending. But he's no Firelord, capable of deploying multiple armies of firebenders and fleets of ships.

The instability to Republic City caused directly by Amon can very easily be solved by beating him in combat. I can see how a single season would be enough.

The greater problem of bender/non-bender inequality, though, is probably too large to be taken care of in a single season. Amon is simply riding the wave of anti-bender sentiment. He's not the source of the problem, only a symptom. If the show creators declare that "balance is restored" just because Amon is gone, then I could see a problem. But if the world is still off balance, despite Amon's defeat, then, I would see it as a sign of greater things to come.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Just finished watching the third episode, finally. Man, it is a hella rad show, and I'm glad they made it:)

The idea of the Fire Nation colonies being carved out into their own independent nation is, well, perfect. I really liked that. Neatly solved the problem they posed. The head fake towards telling Fire Lady Ursa's story was great:)

Republic City really does feel authentic to me, though of course I'm a fan and thus biased. You know what it reminded me of? One of the opening scenes in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Obviously I might've been reminded of that anyway, because of the music and martial arts, but in several scenes in that film, small villages, large inns, or pieces of a city, are portrayed and it didn't feel like just a backdrop. If that makes sense.

The character stories are all compelling and well done, I think, even the parts that are pretty obvious (Korra and Mako, der der der!). But perhaps they'll throw some twists in there besides just telling the cool smart girl meets broody-troubled-boy story. I suspect even if they do, they'll tell it well, though.

A neat spin on Aang's problems, that Korra has no problem (even relishes) fighting and physicality and conflict, but is so far totally deaf I think to the spiritual side of things. This would need to be resolved anyway, but obviously it's going to come into much sharper focus as this whole bending removal story gets told. If memory serves, Aang performed that on Ozai by actually severing his connection to the Spirit World, and that means that she will never be able to achieve long-term success as Avatar until she can deal with this on some root level. I suspect part of her overall arc will be journeying more towards the 'touchy-feely-healy' sides of bending, because what the Avatar can inflict (originally, anyway), it makes sense the Avatar could learn to remove.

I don't have any guesses at all about Amon, but I really like the ones I'm hearing:) All I know for sure is that I don't for a second believe his backstory. Aside from being told entirely too early in the show, it's just too pat.

Liked how apparently Toph's daughter isn't especially fond of Korra, because of Korra's intrusion into her domain. Heck, Toph didn't like Aang either, at first, for different reasons.

I've got to admit, though, I'm attracted to the idea of Amon being one of Aang's children. That has the potential of dealing with the inherent imbalance and unfairness of the world-I mean, some people are just born with a tighter connection with the Spirit World (obviously an important, sacred thing in this setting), and they get super powers on top of it? The Equalists have a pretty compelling political message there. Actually, an example of that would be that I think so far Sokka's only mention in the show, at all, is in the beginning and title credits, where he is shown and not actually named. I mean, descendents of Aang and Katara obviously abound, as well as Toph, and Zuko obviously left a huge legacy as well, but so far (and it's far too soon to say of course) Sokka appears to be getting written out of the story, though the world would've been burned without him.

Another fun spin that I'm not actually committing to, but think would be neat: Amon is either Aang and Katara's non-bending child or someone very close to him, and that child was himself very close to Sokka (which would be understandable, the nonbending son cleaving to the nonbending uncle). Throw in a heaping helping of interference from Ko to put the nastiest spin possible at all points, do some mind-warping and face stealing, and hey-presto! Amon.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
As for the differences between Aang's energybending and Amon's (if that is what Amon is doing, it could be some sort of steampunk tech), bear in mind that not only was Aang performing it as the Avatar, possibly accounting for visual differences, but Ozai was right in the midst of the comet's incredible surge in firebending power.
 

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Well, it's the scope of the thing. At the very core, Amon is just a thug. He has a couple of minions, perhaps an edge in energybending. But he's no Firelord, capable of deploying multiple armies of firebenders and fleets of ships.

The instability to Republic City caused directly by Amon can very easily be solved by beating him in combat. I can see how a single season would be enough.

The greater problem of bender/non-bender inequality, though, is probably too large to be taken care of in a single season. Amon is simply riding the wave of anti-bender sentiment. He's not the source of the problem, only a symptom. If the show creators declare that "balance is restored" just because Amon is gone, then I could see a problem. But if the world is still off balance, despite Amon's defeat, then, I would see it as a sign of greater things to come.

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We don't actually know that's what Amon is 'at core'. It's certainly possible that he's the running dog of someone else, but if he is his own agent, well...

Should he achieve success in Republic City, he would be poised to utilize the populace and infrastructure of what is (or at least might be, we don't actually know) the biggest, most powerful metropolis on the planet. Warlords have started from humbler beginnings and managed to go further, and we don't even know just how extensive Amon's network and resources are right now. If his base of powerful fighters are just the dozen or score or so we've seen, then clearly he's got a long way to go: he was able to draw a crowd for his revelation, but it was an insignificant sum of people compared to the total population.
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
How many episodes are they into it now?

I haven't started it yet because I'm waiting until at least the first seasons is over. It's too addicting to just watch it one episode at a time. I'm glad to hear you guys approve (the critics are digging it so far), so that leaves me hopeful.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Three are on nick.com so far. As for liking it, well of course I can't promise anything, but I'll put it this way, Jeff: if you enjoyed AtlA, or especially if you really liked it, I would be very, very surprised if you didn't at least think the show was pretty good so far.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Aang's only non-bending child was Bumi.

I've read guesses that it's Bumi, and also that it's one of Sokka and Suki's children. Lots of possible candidates.
 

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Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I've also wondered if Amon might be some sort of servant of the knowledge spirit last seen being buried in his library in the desert. Surely, he'd have access to the knowledge to energy bend or chi block, and he'd certainly have a reason to view benders as dangerous to themselves and the world.
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
Oh man, was that a Sokka/Toph/Aang sighting in episode 4?
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I don't know, it doesn't air for another 9 hours...
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
Oops, spoilers!
 

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Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I won't be able to watch the episode today when it airs because I'll be at work. Do they stream the episodes on Nickelodeon's website or something like that?
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Yes they do, that's how I caught last Saturday's. I hope they continue to upload them to Nick.com. Link--Warning, they have advertisements auto-play. Just click "Full-Episodes" to check.

Actually... I'm sick and as such am up already, I might as well just catch it on the television. Do I even have Nickelodeon? Guess I'll find out.
 

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Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
Thank you. My internet access to anything which streams videos is incredibly limited here at work, so I had no way to find out myself while I'm here.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
Wow! Spoilers ahead.

That whole episode was just crazy, and utterly terrifying.

Bolin continues to be really cute, and I'm digging Asami. I kinda hoped the foreshadowing of Korra and Mako was just Bryke trolling the fans, I really like Bolin and his flirting with Korra is awesome. The animation was also top-notch as always, the raid scene was just brutal.

After we saw the flashbacks I'm hearing theories that Aang's 'decisive' action somehow caused Toph's death, and that's why Chief Bei Fong hates Korra so much.

Lyr: Because Amon is not using the same pressure points and such as the Lion Turtle and Aang I'm assuming what he is using is not energybending and just some advanced form of chi-blocking.

I kinda hope Amon is not related to anyone from the first series. It would fit with the whole new generation theme better.

I do think he's going to be related to Yokhan and the past troubles of republic city though.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Ep. 4 SPOILERS

So I'm thinking there's basically zero chance either Hiroshi and/or Asami (was it Sasami?) Sato are uninvolved with this whole Equalist business. Partly it's for meta reasons, but hey, thinking about it, I can see how a rises-from-poverty apparently non-bending ambitious young man would have some ingrained sympathy for antagonism towards benders, particularly if his starter loan came in the form of a generous 'gift'-which would tie in with the other gifts portrayed in this episode.

The dread of Korra and others over Amon and bending removal was powerfully done.

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After we saw the flashbacks I'm hearing theories that Aang's 'decisive' action somehow caused Toph's death, and that's why Chief Bei Fong hates Korra so much.

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I'd rather the series be lean and perfect than stretched out (based on the third episode, which cuts directly into some gritty action and introduces a menacing threat, I'm happy with the decision to have no filler episodes).

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I also love that they've got the villain speaking out against the inherently elitist nature of an inherited power like bending -- something Star Wars has never addressed in a major way. It will be interesting to see if the writers keep it balanced (treating the inequality created by bending as a problem to be resolved) or if they take an Incredibles/Ayn Rand approach (in which "special" people must deal with the jealousy of the less talented masses). I hope for the former.

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The genetic benefit that Asami Sato got was much better than any bender. She will never have to join a triad just to survive.

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I can remember a time in the not too distant past where a demagogue riled up a group of people against a certain minority that was perceived as having too much 'power'

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They've stated explicitly that there is a genetic component, and spiritual component, but that the rules are fairly loose. Air Nomads had the highest density of benders because they were the most spiritual of the nations.

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MDD: Yeah, Katara's mom and dad weren't benders. Maybe it's a recessive gene. I've always seen it as more spiritual connections, though. A little bit mysterious...

BK: I mean we've definitely talked about it. I think, again, sometimes we might not know...it's more of what we don't want it to be. We didn't want it to be like there is a lineage...a royal family or something...and these people can bend and then there's everyone else as non-bending, people who never will. Some sort of caste system. Mike and I are more attracted to more of the flux type universe. The only constant is change, variation, that sorta thing. I'm sure it's a bunch of factors.

***Interviewers note: About 20 mins after the interview, Bryan came back to me and we spoke a little more about the basis of bending off recorder. He described bending as more of a talent. You have some genetic basis for potential, but you could go your whole life without developing the talent into ability. Some people have more inherent talent than others, while others with minimal inherent talent can still develop it through hard work and practice. He reiterated a connection to the spiritual energies is the underlying basis. How it manifests is based on upbringing and experience.

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BK: We always have liked the idea of who will be a bender and who won't be to be kind of an ambiguous mystery, even to the people in the Avatar world. From early on we thought the Air Nomads would be all benders. Again it's like Mike was saying, it's more of a spiritual connection. But they have...they had...the smallest population. Earth Kingdom has the biggest population but the smallest percentage of benders. So yeah, there were these notions we kicked around that is wasn't going to be regimented or ruled through specific lineages. We liked the idea that each of the cultures have a different spiritual vantage point...coming at it from a different angle.

MDD: Then the Air Nomads would have been the most spiritual...the most connected to the spiritual energy of the Earth.

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Originally posted by SteveRogers:
After having to purchase the episode on iTunes today to watch it, I can say I feel the suspense in this new series is a much more noticeable element than in the original series. When the episode ended, I found myself desperately wanting more as much as when I watched LOST. The pacing of this most recent episode was almost breathlessly brisk, but it was astounding.

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Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
It wasn't on there on Saturday or Sunday.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Just popped on today. I've been watching closely since I missed the live airing.

For future reference.
 

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Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I will remember that for next week.
 

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Posted by Marek (Member # 5404) on :
 
One thing I find neat, is that benders seem to have the strongest connection to their nations. Most benders seem to dress in a way that relates to their home nation. There has been no mention of any type of "Earth Town" or "Little Water Tribe" like most major cities with huge populations of foreign ancestry develop. Maybe it is because they already know. I really have no idea where my family comes from, but if I were a firebender, and all firebenders were of Irish descent then I guess I would know.

Also I am not sure where it was stated that Sato was not a bender, maybe he is one, he just figured it wasn't worth mentioning. Still I found the rhyme of Satomobile,and automobile amusing.
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
It's stated on the Nickolodeon website.
 

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Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
SPOILERS


I am betting that Tarlock is either in league with Amon or is in fact Amon.


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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Did anyone notice the mention of Cabbage Corp? I KNEW the cabbage merchant would have a descendent who was a tycoon of some sort.

And yeah, Tarlock is certainly looking suspicious right now.
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
I lied, Lyr. Latest Korra still isn't showing up on iTunes, so I haven't seen it.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
This cuts deep.
 

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Posted by hef (Member # 12497) on :
 
What's the deal with the metal benders? Is it a specialized subset of earth bending or an entirely different kind of power?
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 

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It wasn't a lie of intent. I did what I said: went to settle down in bed to watch Korra.

Then I discovered Korra was not available. So I went to sleep sad instead.
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
That's not Tenzin and Lin in the flashback, that's Aang and Toph. You may want to deny the Lincoln beard, but it is there, and it is his.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Yeah, you could see Aang's tattoos briefly glow in the flashback. Korra keeps having random extremely brief flashbacks.

I can't WAIT for a scene when Korra finally interacts with Aang either via the spirit world or meditation like Aang did. I imagine we won't get that for awhile, unless there's a solstice or something, because Korra is so much less spiritual.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
I saw the tattoos, but is that strictly an avatar thing, that they glow? I can't remember. Any Air Master gets them, I believe, but Aang is the only real example from that series.
 

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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
If the flashback is showing the Yakone incident, then forty-two years ago, Tenzin and Lin would have been around ten. The Airbender in the flashback is quite a bit older. Plus, only the Avatar glows like that.
 

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I saw the tattoos, but is that strictly an avatar thing, that they glow? I can't remember. Any Air Master gets them, I believe, but Aang is the only real example from that series.

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I saw the tattoos, but is that strictly an avatar thing, that they glow? I can't remember. Any Air Master gets them, I believe, but Aang is the only real example from that series.

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Originally posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer:
Still not on iTunes? Bitterness and rage.

We were going to have a Korra party for the new episode last night, but it still isn't out! I paid thirty bucks for this season, dagnabbit!

What's worse is that I hear Episode 6 is a really good one.

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Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
Pretty obnoxious to not allow iTunes subscribes to get it before it's legal to view online anyway.
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
Yeah that's really bothering me. We paid for it and everything.
 

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Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
Unlikely to have an effect in the near future, but might be worth writing an angry letter about. TV companies seem to have their head in the sands when it comes to internet media. In the piracy age, if you want to retain the people who actually pay for stuff, you need to not leave them feeling like they got ripped off.

(This in no way endorses piracy - I'm just as annoyed by people who act like they're somehow entitled to all this free content. But that doesn't mean the companies aren't stupid for not responding to a new environment)
 

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Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
(It has just been uploaded to nick.com.)
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Combustion Man! (I prefer, what was it, sparky sparky boom boom man?) I wonder if/when that unique manifestation of bending ( ? ) talent will reveal improvements or offshoots in Korra?
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I think we can assume he was using some sort of specialty form of fire bending combined with some sort of enhanced chi thing.

It was certainly powerful, though it had its limitations. There are a lot of unique abilities I'd like to see crop up again at some point in some way, but there's really not much time left. This season is already more than half over.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Well, there were limitations, it's true, but he was basically a walking grenade launcher. No other kind of bending has matched that for potential lethality, I think, with the exception of blood bending and possibly lightning bending (though when you think about it, air bending has some pretty obvious seriously-fatal techniques for killing a person from within too).
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Sucking the air out of their lungs? Stuff like that?

I suppose you could metal bend the iron out of their blood like Magneto too.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Sucking the air out would be one. Starting a miniature hurricane would be another, or reversing the air flow in the throat and lungs with each breath. On the microscopic level, affecting the oxygen within the bloodstream and lungs themselves, on a cellular level, not unlike bloodbending-though if I'm not mistaken there's much more water than air or metal in the blood, rendering that trickier.
 

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Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
I have to confess that I don't really like Tenzin. =( How did Katara's and Aang's son turn out like this?
 

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Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
Tenzin reminds me of Katara alot with that strong sense of responsibility. He's trying to raise a family, keep alive the traditions of a nation that is barely hanging on, and continue his father's legacy of peace. And now he has this girl to look after and while she may be the Avatar, she's also a wild teenager.

Tenzin is not Iroh. He's not the mature guiding voice of wisdom. He's a character that will probably grow and evolve through his mentor role to Korra. She's really only started her airbending training and is no shape to be using it in a fight.

I'm actually really looking forward to their relationship getting stronger as Korra embraces her role as the Avatar.
 

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Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
I guess he got all his mom's officiousness and sense of responsibility, and none of his dad's love of play and fun. He seems so worried all the time and frazzled. He doesn't seem like a spiritual master at all to me. He doesn't seem like someone who understands and accepts what is, or who moves lightly like the feather through the spinning panels of life, so to speak. You know?
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Well, we also have to take into account that Aang was a young kid. We have no way of knowing what Aang was like when he was older.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
I don't think he could've been a squeeze of Lin if he had no sense of fun-or have the sort of children he does, for that matter. I get the impression he's carefully controlling himself to be the sort of teacher he thinks is needed-one could say Katara hardly needs to more embrace her sense of fun and whimsy, after all.
 

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Is anyone else chomping at the bit to see Aang and Kotara's other children? The premiere pointed out that Tenzin is the most serious of them and therefore the most reserved, and I want to see some wreckless airbending!

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I want to see Ang's kid that isn't a bender at all.

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I want to see Ang's kid that isn't a bender at all.

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Aang and Katara had three children: a waterbender, a non-bender, and an airbender.

http://botanymajor95.tumblr.com/post/22159766256/swagbot9001-legend-of-korra-lineage-family

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I think it should be the Cabbage Merchant's grandson.

After all, who suffered more at the hands of benders than the poor cabbage merchant?

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Well the cops seem to think he has something to do with it, though not being Amon himself
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
Woah. I love the return of the cabbage joke.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Especially since it would appear he was actually innocent after all. Once more benders wreak havoc on the cabbage man!

Initially I expected this was a ploy by Tarlack, who being the real villain planted a fake informant to send the Chief and Tenzin after Sato, who would've been innocent but it would've been a humiliating debacle for them, and Tarlack's hands would've remained clean. Thinking now, though, that's not really a 200m series kind of plot.

I guess it makes sense the Chief doesn't use her special sensory bending all the time-living in a bustling metropolis, that is.

I'm a bit disappointed by the whole conspiracy thing being found out by eavesdropping through a door after hitting the crapper, but hey, 10 episodes.

I thought this might be an Avatar-state episode what with the dire peril and all, but I suspect that won't happen until the very end and be the culmination of the whole spirituality angle.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
I can't wait til we have an avatar state episode.

I still have a feeling Tarlok is some sort of villain. He's just way too slimy.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
My prediction now is that he is a villain, but a very mundane, political self centered sort of villain, not tied in (except perhaps to serve his own ends) with the Equalists.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
My prediction now is that he is a villain, but a very mundane, political self centered sort of villain, not tied in (except perhaps to serve his own ends) with the Equalists.
 

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Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
 
Maybe he'll be related to our second season villain.

It seems strange the way he's wresting more power away from Lin, and now that she will no longer be chief of police his task force will be the law.
 

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Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I kinda predicted hiroshi was the villain here, he and his daughter were just too conveniently placed in the narrative. While weaning being evil herself would've been waaaaay too convenient a way to wrap up the.love triangle.
 

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Posted by Olivet 2.0 (Member # 12719) on :
 
My boys and I had to pause it after she said "Cabbage Corp." Because we totally knew what was coming. We had to pause it again after "Not my cabbage corp!" for a round of high fives. I don't even know why that was so awesome, but it was.
 

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Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 

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My prediction now is that he is a villain, but a very mundane, political self centered sort of villain, not tied in (except perhaps to serve his own ends) with the Equalists.

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Azula was kind of boring after she locked May and Tai-Lee up.

Now Toph-- she rocked socks.

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Toph was awesome. I'd like to hear more about her life as an adult. I notice her daughter carries her family name rather than that of her father. Is that usual in this society?

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Toph was awesome. I'd like to hear more about her life as an adult. I notice her daughter carries her family name rather than that of her father. Is that usual in this society?

I sort of think they slandered Azula at the end, and her story didn't really go that way. She was too awesome to lose it like that. But you know how the victors always write the story of the war. Maybe we'll never know the true tale.

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Azula was nuts from day one. She didn't go overboard until Tylee and Mai left her, but it was a long time coming.

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HA! HA! I CALLED IT! TARLOK!

WOW!

Wow!

That episode was INTENSE. [/quite]

Well, I mean Tarlak being a bad guy was a pretty easy get, man! But yes. Intense to say the least.

[quote]Are we supposed to think Tarrlok is Amon? I got that vibe from his reaction. Or is he just using the scare over Amon to seize power?

Also, in that vision was someone bloodbending Aang?

What are the odds that wherever he is taking Korra, she will run into someone we've heard about but haven't met yet? Like, maybe Bumi?

What's Naga going to do when she realizes Korra hasn't come out of the building? Poor Naga, she warned her not to go....

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I'm super curious about his blood bending though! One would guess that Katara would keep that knowledge to herself, maybe telling her water bending daughter and Korra but never anyone else who might try to use it. So does this mean that there have been more than the one blood bending savant? or did Katara make a mistake somewhere in her life.

Glad to see Sokka kept his "wolf-tail."

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HA! HA! I CALLED IT! TARLOK!

WOW!

Wow!

That episode was INTENSE.

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Well, I mean Tarlak being a bad guy was a pretty easy get, man! But yes. Intense to say the least.

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Originally posted by AchillesHeel:
Moved. Not airbended.

She has spent her life learning forms, it stands to reason that Korra could learn the physical form but if she is somehow not a full Avatar she has no way to access the power of airbending.

If Aang learned how to use energy-bending to block a persons ability to bend he could have also learned how to open the chi passages manually. When Aang was at his most powerful as an adult Avatar the city he built was still filled with benders oppressing innocent people. Amon has caused no fatalities and when he first showed his ability to remove a persons bending it was on the worst criminals, Bolin just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If Amon is amoral then why does he go so far to not take lives in his revolution?

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Moved. Not airbended.

She has spent her life learning forms, it stands to reason that Korra could learn the physical form but if she is somehow not a full Avatar she has no way to access the power of airbending.

If Aang learned how to use energy-bending to block a persons ability to bend he could have also learned how to open the chi passages manually. When Aang was at his most powerful as an adult Avatar the city he built was still filled with benders oppressing innocent people. Amon has caused no fatalities and when he first showed his ability to remove a persons bending it was on the worst criminals, Bolin just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If Amon is amoral then why does he go so far to not take lives in his revolution?

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He stripped Lin's cops of their bending too. He's clearly sincere about his desire to remove all bending, not just bending from those who misuse it. That doesn't sound anything like Aang to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think Amon is awesome. He's a great, and surprisingly sympathetic given how enigmatic he is, villain. I was hoping he'd be the one to rescue Korra from Tarrlok, and that played out better than I could've possibly imagined.

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He stripped Lin's cops of their bending too. He's clearly sincere about his desire to remove all bending, not just bending from those who misuse it. That doesn't sound anything like Aang to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think Amon is awesome. He's a great, and surprisingly sympathetic given how enigmatic he is, villain. I was hoping he'd be the one to rescue Korra from Tarrlok, and that played out better than I could've possibly imagined.

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I don't actually stand by my point because the giant war machine robots suggest otherwise. But my point was Amon could want to remove all bending (because he sees bending as a source of inequality and evil) while still wanting to minimize casualties and avoid bloodshed.

I like the robot theory but I don't think it's true - he did STRUGGLE to resist the bloodbending. I saw it as a "Amon has majestic control over his own energy" (necessary for energy bending), and presumably bloodbending can be at least somewhat resisted (if people didn't have some ability to fight back, it wouldn't normally require the full moon)

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Uncle Iroh went there as well.

In the episode where Aang went to see the Face-stealer-- the ones where the network did pop-up bubbles of trivia- it was hinted that Iroh's son also went there and lost his face to the Face-stealer. That was why Iroh went.
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
I'd like to see a comic or maybe a one or two episode arch that explains Iroh's backstory more. He was such a cool character and you could tell that he had a vast history, full of adventures and character growth.
 

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Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I always wanted to know more about him as well.
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
Anyone else catch the science error in Ammon's plan for subduing Korra in "Out Of The Past"?

The metal cage would act like a Faraday cage, making it impossible to shock her even if she were touching the inside.
 

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Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
 
I pointed it out to my girlfriend, then ended up explaining Faraday cages to her.

It was pretty cool, because knowing about them seems to get me a lot of mileage in terms of "random trivia" at bars and on Facebook (why don't microwaves hurt you, why are you safe in a car/plane during a lightning storm, etc.). Plus I always get to rewatch with them a video of a guy in a Faraday cage next to a massive Tesla coil.

So, in conclusion, spotted it.

Edit: Apparently the internet did too.
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/faraday-cage

Edit2: And the response was quick. I don't know anything about Faraday cages past my memory from high school so I can't assess this:

"I just wanna say that I appreciate people flaunting their physics knowledge. Physics is rad. But I’m pretty sure out of all the people working on LoK, SOMEONE took Electromagnetism in school. This “Toph box” (as I heard it referred to on the latest RCDispatch) looks to be solid metal (platinum maybe?) except at the top, where the grating is spaced out large enough that Korra could probably fit her hand through. In a Faraday cage, electricity is distributed throughout a uniform surface, resulting in a total charge of zero volts. The Toph box is NOT uniform. If Korra hadn’t been quick witted, she would have been toast."
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
Well, no cage is perfectly uniform. Whether the deviations from uniformity in Korra's box would be enough to make it possible to electrocute her through it, I couldn't say. It would probably also depend on how strong the battery was.

But volts are a unit of potential, not charge.
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
For example, the cage the two girls are in two posts down on your Tumblr link doesn't look much less uniform than Korra's box.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
Brave choice, bringing back the Zuko voice actor. I don't know if I like it yet, it may prove to be a hurdle in separating my opinion of the two characters. Unless they are supposed to essentially be the same anyway.

My question is, son? or grand-son?

If Zuko had kids around the same time as the rest of team Avatar Iroh II would be old enough to have grey hair, so I'm thinking grand-son.
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
Yeah, he's the grandson.

Once I realized that I became more okay with the same voice actor being used. The Dante Basco gene skips a generation, y'know.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
I hear it is a recessive gene, usually inherited from the maternal side much like male pattern baldness.
 

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Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
Has anyone heard theory going around that Zuko had a daughter who married Aang's son Bumi and they are Iroh's parents? Apparently, on the official Legend of Korra family tree, Bumi is wearing a fire nation collar. There also is a strong family resemblance in terms of jawline when you compare Iroh to Bumi or Aang.

LoK Family Tree
 

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Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
Am I the only one that thinks its odd that Bumi and Kya both ended up a few shades darker than even Katara?

Here's a comparison I just did in Gimp:

Aang, Katara, Bumi, Kya

Usually (in our world), offspring of a dark skinned and a light skinned person will meet somewhere in the middle. Even if sometimes that comes down much closer to one parent than the other, its still along the spectrum.

Not something I'm upset about or anything, just think its somewhat strange.
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
Does anyone else want to see more of Sokka? He was my favorite character in TLA. I'd like to know what happened to him (aside from his being on the original council) and whether he had kids or not.
 

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Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
 

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Originally posted by AchillesHeel:
Brave choice, bringing back the Zuko voice actor. I don't know if I like it yet, it may prove to be a hurdle in separating my opinion of the two characters. Unless they are supposed to essentially be the same anyway.

My question is, son? or grand-son?

If Zuko had kids around the same time as the rest of team Avatar Iroh II would be old enough to have grey hair, so I'm thinking grand-son.

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He doesn't shed any tears until his brother opens the gas tank and readies the glove. I assumed being an extremely powerful bloodbender might give him better sense of people around him. (In the Promise comic Toph mentions she can feel metal moving even without being in contact with it)

We see that Noahtuk is not a fan of their father, neither of them are, and they have both realized they have become their father, defeated by the avatar and all.

I meant saved in a more spiritual sense, by killing them he ended the cruelty and violence of both of them.

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It makes me think of Cain and Abel, and the whole "I am not my brothers keeper" idea. I think Tarlok was taking responsibility for his own actions and those of his brother rather than looking out for himself as usual. With how powerful Noatuk was, that moment on the boat with his defenses down was the only real chance to end his bloody path, Tarlok knowing all too well how easy it is to follow in their fathers ways made sure that everything that poisoned them would end. No more of that particular blood bending, the blood-line of Yakon has run dry and the world of Avatar is better for it. I find Tarlok's sacrifice very heroic indeed.
 

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That finale was an emotional roller coaster! I loved every second of it. I want to see more Uncle Bumi!

I knew it was Aang walking up to her, but still teared up when I he said "But you called me here"
 

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Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
I hadn't really been too impressed by the finale with the exception of the boat scene and Aang's appearance. I still can't believe they even did that boat scene on a Nick show!

I'm starting to think that my expectations for the show are just too high, in general. I think my primary complaint is that I just don't care about any of the main characters. I really like Tenzin and Lin but that's it. The love triangle has made it nearly impossible for me to even like Mako much less cheer for him. They've done absolutely nothing to develop Bolin which I find extremely depressing because its obvious that he's kind of the Sokka of the group, and I love me some Sokka! Asami's storyline with her father had some potential and, like with Sokka, I love having a non-bender amongst benders.

As for Korra, I don't feel like she learned anything or has really developed as a character at all. With Aang, I felt like he was growing and maturing as a person with each challenge. Early in the season there was all this stuff about how being an Avatar, especially in regards to airbending, means embracing the spiritual side. I really kept expecting some sort of scene where Korra realizes that running into danger and throwing punches isn't always the best way to take control of a conflict. I'm excited that Korra is a fully realized Avatar now but I don't feel like she's earned it, so emotionally it means very little to me.

The fight scenes are INCREDIBLE but the story and characters have been very disappointing. I really just expected more from this show.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I will say I was a little disappointed with how Korra got to her spiritual side. Aang was there from the beginning because of his Air Temple training, but he worked at it for years whereas Korra seems to have just stumbled into it. I feel that by not working for it, it's not really worth as much.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
I agree. It was moving, but not especially good storytelling, I thought. I don't think they quite sold the connection, for Korra, between airbending and the Avatar's spiritual connection. Had they done so, the ending would've made more sense.

For awhile, though, I thought it would be a reformulation of the first show-she has Air nailed, and has to travel about connecting with the other three elements!
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
Rakeesh, that would have been a cool direction. I agree with you.

I'm curious about where they will take it now. I know originally they just had this first season mapped out and that would be it, but now that they've promised another 14 episodes, I have to wonder what else they can do. I think the first season could have been longer, possibly another 10 episodes to develop the characters and make their resolutions mean more, like Korra's spiritual journey. I personally would have enjoyed more scenes with her talking to Aang, just like when he talked to Roku. Maybe there will be more room for that later.

I'd like to see them explore the characters and have their abilities grow. The original show was so great because each character evolved, not just on a spiritual and maturity level, but also in terms of their skills. Each bender achieved another level that was beyond anything they had ever imagined (bloodbending, dragon fire, metal bending). Even Sokka had a chance to develop into a master swordsman. So far all of the characters in Korra have essentially stayed at the same level and we haven't seen much development, which really feels like a waste. The characters have always made this universe so much fun, so I'm sad that we haven't seen as much with them. Hopefully next season we can get some deeper resolutions.

Otherwise, I really enjoyed the finale. I thought the battles were solid, obviously, but I also liked seeing Amon's resolution. I thought it was handled decently, albeit abruptly. In that regard, I think it should have been longer with more of a build up. That's the problem you get when you only do 12 episodes for a season and you have so many characters. It's just not enough time. Maybe if they had focused less on the tournament and more on the characters then maybe it would have been better. Who knows.
 

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Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
 
Lyr, I feel like Korra's journey is supposed to be the opposite of Aang's. He started with all the spiritual understanding but he lacked the desire to act. We got to see reluctance when it came to accepting his responsibilities as the Avatar. We saw how his evasive style and tendency towards avoidance made it difficult for him to learn earth-bending. We saw how fear held him back when it came to fire-bending.

And yet, Korra just magically gets air-bending. I liked where they were going with the dreams and flashbacks. But they often felt more like info-dumps rather than emphasizing that Korra was willing to embrace her spiritual side and resist action in favor of inaction.

Yep, they should have cut a tournament episode in favor of more airbending training. Think of all the awesome Tenzin moments! Because what I love most about him is that he's not like Iroh (the original), he's not the perfect voice of wisdom, he's just a guy who has to learn to be a teacher as much as Korra needs to learn to be a student.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
So the airbending chakra is for Love Grief and Heart.

Korra loves Nagga more than anyone else, but did she really have the opportunity to learn how to open her heart to others while being raised by a bunch of serious old men who were training her all the time?

Did she have anything to regret before she reached the city? any pain or tragedy? No.

And heart, she had plenty of vigor but is that really the same? She was happy to plunge into most anything with no fear but was always disheartened when there was no instant gratification. Even when Asami showed up, Korra immediately was depressed even though she had yet to admit her feelings for Mako. She was ready to give up "being" the Avatar just because she couldn't automatically air-bend.

Think about the power Aang unleashed immediately after receiving what should have been a death blow in the fight against the Fire-Lord, and plus Aang said it himself "when we are at our lowest, we are open to the greatest change." Amon may have severed her physical neural connections to her other bending, but the energy of The Avatar was still inside her and had to go somewhere. I'm not surprised that between her physical training in air-bending technique and that violent flood gate introduction to air-bending chakra, she could easily disarm Amon so readily with nothing but air when Tenzin and family were powerless against him.
 

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Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
This season wrap-up was so painfully abrupt and forced and tie-everything-up-with-a-bow-on-top that I think I shall call it Korra's Moving Castle.
 

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Lyr, I feel like Korra's journey is supposed to be the opposite of Aang's. He started with all the spiritual understanding but he lacked the desire to act. We got to see reluctance when it came to accepting his responsibilities as the Avatar. We saw how his evasive style and tendency towards avoidance made it difficult for him to learn earth-bending. We saw how fear held him back when it came to fire-bending.

And yet, Korra just magically gets air-bending. I liked where they were going with the dreams and flashbacks. But they often felt more like info-dumps rather than emphasizing that Korra was willing to embrace her spiritual side and resist action in favor of inaction.

Yep, they should have cut a tournament episode in favor of more airbending training. Think of all the awesome Tenzin moments! Because what I love most about him is that he's not like Iroh (the original), he's not the perfect voice of wisdom, he's just a guy who has to learn to be a teacher as much as Korra needs to learn to be a student.

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I agree it was supposed to basically be the opposite, they just didn't do it as well as Aang because of time constraints. They actually showed Aang over the course of three seasons struggling with the question of how to act decisively, how to take things head on, how to deal with having to possibly kill, etc. And they also dealt with his spiritual journey as well, which came easier to him, but was still a challenge.

Korra starts off having the physical side mastered and they tell us she struggles with the spiritual side. Then with no work at all, she just GETS it at the end. No work, no learning moments, nothing like what Aang had to go through, it just happens.

They really should have cut all that Mako-Korra-Asami stuff and focused more on the characters. There simply wasn't time for a love triangle in this season.
 

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Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Ugh, yes, I could've done without that love triangle-or at least not such a cliched one. It also would've been nice had Korra said, at the end, "Wait, wait, I love you, but you're with Asami right now, so we can't do this." Don't get me wrong, it doesn't damn her as a coward or traitor or anything like that-people get caught up all the time, after all-but it still would've been nice.

The way they wrapped up some of the elements was very, very rushed, though I did enjoy it. Being stripped of 75% of her bending for...what, about eight minutes of screen time?...was a bit silly. Would've been nice to see more of a resolution between the Sato family.

I agree with whoever said some of the tournament stuff and some of the love triangle stuff could've been cut, but really, I think the season just needed more episodes. Quite a few!
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
I agree with the complaints about the love triangle; especially since it's one of those love triangles where the person in the center (Mako) really, really doesn't deserve it. That triangle ought to have been resolved by both Korra and Asami realizing they are way too awesome for him.

I didn't really mind the rushed quality. This isn't the first episode this season that's felt rushed. Honestly, that's Avatar for you. Season 3, especially the second half, of TLA was also incredibly rushed. It's a great show, and I'm happy to roll with it, but in general the pacing of their climaxes tends to be pretty fast.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I thought S3 was pretty solid. At that point they'd completed all the set up and they spent four episodes on the finale.
 

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Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
 

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Korra starts off having the physical side mastered and they tell us she struggles with the spiritual side. Then with no work at all, she just GETS it at the end. No work, no learning moments, nothing like what Aang had to go through, it just happens.

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There's a theory over on the AV Club that Korra intended to jump off the cliff. Her entire identity had just been stripped from her, and she was finished.

Pulling back from the edge was her moment of enlightenment.

I'd say overcoming a moment of suicidal despair qualifies as a learning moment. Yeah, rushed, but not quite as easy as everyone seems to be making it out to be.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Eh...

That's an interesting theory.

Frankly I think it would have been interesting to see her dealing with not being the full Avatar. Otherwise it feels like the message from the end is you're not special unless you're special. You can't deal with being normal, so either their needs to be a magical solution to bring your specialness back, or you kill yourself.

One of the reasons why Zuko was so compelling is he had to go through that journey. He lived as a pauper, he lived without firebending for a long time. He grew, and he became a different, better person. Instead they took her powers away for half a day and then gave them back. Meh.
 

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Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
Well, I have spent probably way too much time thinking and analyzing this and I've come to look at it this way.

I think she was not the Avatar for longer than half a day, to start. They traveled to Katara, to the southern water tribe. Bumi and Iroh were not with them, presumably, the military stayed in Republic City a bit (Tenzin had to "entertain" his brother, based on his comment.) They had to get Lin back,and then travel to Katara. They didn't all ride on Oogi (Naga was with them). She was not the avatar long enough to keenly feel the loss, and to contemplate it - but all her hope was wrapped up in Katara. No one truly believed Katara couldn't fix Korra - look at Lin's insistence that she keep trying, for example.

Korra's identity is very much an individualist bent...she does not like to depend on others. Witness her desire to go confront Amon. She didn't turn Mako away, but she didn't ask him to come with her either. She is not used to depending on people, why should she? She has been able to bend three elements from a very young age. (And you gotta deal with it!)

I look at Air bending and its spiritual nature as one of selflessness and humility. Look at how Tenzin embodies that by providing all to his family, and by his service to Republic City. Aang always knew he needed others, and was not at all shy about accepting their teaching, and their help. For Korra, who got the first three elements pretty much on her own, she's never truly learned to rely on others. Sure, she had masters that helped her refine her control of the elements, but she already could bend them. Airbending was so difficult for her because she never released her self-reliance and really allowed Tenzin to teach her.

When everything else was gone, and she couldn't fall back on what she herself knew and could do - that was when the airbending came. She had no choice, and at that moment she was helpless and seeing someone she cared for about to be destroyed, as she thought she had just been. She forgot about herself in that moment and only cared about protecting Mako - that selflessness allowed the airbending to come through. Notice, however, she still hasn't mastered it - she slung air around like a firebender, so she hasn't truly mastered it.

Now, flash forward to the last couple scenes. When Mako declares his love, she can't reciprocate - she hates herself in that moment, doesn't feel worthy. The fleeing on Naga was her running from the life she doesn't believe she deserves to have anymore - one with friends, and people who love and accept her.

The tears, including the one that called Aang - this was Korra giving up - not suicidal, I don't believe that. It was her releasing all the strength, all the individualism, everything that made her that bold little toddler that announced herself to the White Lotus. It was Korra humbling herself, and realizing she could not fix things on her own - she could not do it all. She became, finally, selfless and dependent. She needed help, and when she admitted that, Aang was able to come through and help her.

I too wish there had been at least one more episode, that we could have seen Korra struggle more with not being the Avatar, but given the time constraints, I think it was pretty well done. It rang true to me, and I liked it.

Of course, I am an unemployed English teacher with nothing to do since there are no new job postings, so I could be totally off base.
 

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Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
 
Belle, you've basically nailed my thoughts here. I loved it, and while there are things that I would change and that were a bit silly, for a Nickelodeon kids show, this adult was pretty emotionally invested in the ending.
 

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Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
that finale was, looking back at it, the worst of all worlds in terms of an artificially constrained cessation of a buildup period. You work all the way up to this and .. chop. done. meh.
 

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Posted by Raymond Arnold (Member # 11712) on :
 
Up until the last few minutes, I was really looking forward to a season 2 that explored Korra sans Avatar-powers, that culminated in her getting them back but not before she had gone through a lot of introspection, with the show continuing to exmaine the interplay between benders and non-benders and the modern world.
 

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Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
 

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Up until the last few minutes, I was really looking forward to a season 2 that explored Korra sans Avatar-powers, that culminated in her getting them back but not before she had gone through a lot of introspection, with the show continuing to exmaine the interplay between benders and non-benders and the modern world.

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About the only couple in TLA that seemed remotely cool and actually well matched was Sokka and Suki, and it took a long time for the show to make that happen.

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You're forgetting Zuko and Katara.
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 
Hah!

Well, they had interesting chemistry the few times they interacted, I'll give you that.

I found Katara to be painfully obnoxious most of the time, so I don't much care who she ends up with.
 

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Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
 
Oy, Zutara. I'm so glad they didn't go there.
 

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Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
I would have liked it better than Kataang. That for me fell quite flat. Maybe I just couldn't get past Aang seeming so much younger (prepubescent even). For that reason, I think Aang/Toph would have been a better pairing.
 

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Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
 
Aang/ Toph might make sense in terms of age, but I don't see it from the standpoint of chemistry. They're too diametrically opposite in personality, and not in the "opposites attract" sort of way.

As for Kataang... well, Katara and Aang were two years apart, just like Katara and Zuko. Although in terms of perception, Zuko always felt to me significantly older than anyone in Team Avatar - he's even drawn like a guy in his early twenties, especially in the latter two seasons. Heck, Sokka is supposedly less than a year younger than Zuko, but he looks five years younger. So the age argument regarding Kataang never really held water for me. If a romance between a 12 year old and a 14 year old is weird, then so is a romance between a 14 year old and a 16 year old who looks and acts like he's 20.

And that doesn't even get into the inherent creepiness of the "oh! You pursued me/ tried to kill me for so long and that drew me to you like a moth to flame!!" stuff. The show itself made fun of that idea in "Ember Island Players."

*shrug* I guess Kataang never bothered me much, since it seemed obvious to me from the first episode that that was where they were going. And I'll take the slow burn romance built on mutual respect and affection over the BURNING HATE-TURNED-LURRRRVE OF MUTUAL A(a)NGST anyday.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Zutara would have left me totally unsatisfied for a lot of reasons, if not only because the "good girl/bad boy" trope is overplayed...especially when the bad boy in this case BURNED HER VILLAGE DOWN, and at several points not only tried to capture or kill them, but assisted Azula in actually killing Aang after betraying Katara's trust.

If she got past all that because he broods and makes a pouty face, I'd forever boycott the show. And I say that as someone who loves Zuko. He's my favorite character (tied with Iroh maybe) on the show, but that would have been stupid.
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
Strongly disagree. After the scene where she almost healed his scar in the S1 finale, I knew they were meant for each other. That was one of the best scenes in the show, because of the chemistry between those two characters. You're right that by the season 2 finale, Zutara was ruined. They'd have had to play some of those events out differently to make a relationship credible. But it would have improved the show if they'd taken those steps and had the two end up together.

The age issue isn't that relevant to me, it's just that Aang isn't an interesting romantic male lead. I might feel that way partly because he's visually pre-pubescent, but it's also for the same reasons that Luke Skywalker wouldn't have worked very well in a romance: the character is spiritually occupied in a way that comes off as androgynous.
 

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Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
 
Actually, the scene in which Katara almost heals Zuko's scar is in the second season finale, literally minutes before Zuko chooses to side with Azula against Aang and Katara. So the idea that Zutara was "birthed" in that scene and subsequently "ruined" by the Season 2 finale makes no sense, unless your romantic entanglements operate on a ridiculously short timescale.

In addition, the cave scene was one of the best scenes in the show because it showed Zuko at a moral crossroads, and Katara in a position where she, for the first time, understood that her enemies in the Fire Nation weren't all unmitigated evil. Any romantic chemistry between the characters was subtext, at best - the boldface textual interpretation is not that these two people are falling in love, but that they're both coming to an epiphany about the nature of their conflict.

And again, I think you're misremembering the show if you think there were events that could have played out differently to "make a relationship" credible, because that brief cave scene is literally the only moment in the entire series wherein we observe the slightest hint of romantic chemistry between Zuko and Katara. Seriously, I dare you to name another.

In contrast, the Katara and Aang romance is built up starting from their very first scene together. Aang's crush on Katara is obvious, but we see many scenes over the course of the series showing Katara's feelings growing for Aang in return. To name just one from each season, there's her realization that he is a "powerful bender" at the end of "The Fortuneteller," the did-they-or-didn't-they kiss in "The Cave" (which, might I remind you, Katara initiated), and of course, the dance scene in "The Headband" (prior to which we see some pretty obvious jealousy from Katara directed at On Ji, Aang's new Fire Nation friend).

So no, the text doesn't indicate at all that Katara and Zuko "were meant for each other." That was pure fanfic-ified speculation from the fans.

Edited to add: Also, I disagree that Aang isn't a "credible romantic lead." We've already discussed the age thing, which I agree is mildly problematic - but again, just as much so for ANY of the pairings on the show other than Sokka/ Suki. But with regards to the monk thing, nah. Aang's characterization is as much "impulsive teenager" as it is "quiet, spiritual monk." The idea that he's crushin' after Katara from the get go matches my experiences as an impulsive teenager who could also be shy and reflective quite well. And it doesn't seem at all weird to me that a smart, strong, empathetic girl might be drawn to a smart, strong, empathetic guy - it's actually sort of regressive, I think, to assume that girls can't be attracted to "effeminate" males like Aang, especially ones who can summon friggin' tornadoes with their minds.
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 
Wow, weird. I totally remembered that scene as happening in the S1 finale, but you're right, she only got the healing water at the end of that episode. You're right that they would've had to change things way more in order to make Zutara happen. My only claim is that it would've improved the show if they'd done this.

Anyway, I agree that the writers never intentionally set up Katara and Zuko to get together. But they're such a natural pairing. When I first started watching the show, I missed the first couple episodes and I was certain they were going to get Zuko and Katara together, just because they (unlike Katara and Aang) are the kind of couple that works on the screen. (I've never read any fanfic, for Avatar or anything else, except as a joke, so that wasn't my source for the idea.)

There are so many reasons "Zutara" would work better as a source of romantic drama. In a show like this, you want to go with archetypal character arcs that work. Here's one that works: once-bitter enemies are nonetheless attracted to each other and get together. There's a built-in source of tension that the couple's natural chemistry has to overcome.

Here's one that doesn't work: girl doesn't know if guy is "like a brother" to her or not. The attraction has to be lukewarm in order for there to be tension, or else the girl would not have mixed feelings, so the couple is forced to be portrayed as having bad chemistry. But that was the only way to introduce any tension into the Aang-Katara pairing. So of course, the couple comes across as uninspired.

Also, the age difference thing (although again, it's not the biggest deal-breaker for me) is more about Aang's youth in absolute terms than it is about the difference between their ages. I could believe a romance story between a 14-year-old and a 17-year-old, because those are two people who are both old enough to have hormone-driven crushes on the opposite sex. At 12, and a young-looking 12, Aang just doesn't come across as old enough to even like girls that way.

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Aang's characterization is as much "impulsive teenager" as it is "quiet, spiritual monk." The idea that he's crushin' after Katara from the get go matches my experiences as an impulsive teenager who could also be shy and reflective quite well.

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You don't think the same goes for Luke? Aang and Luke are very similar characters in a lot of ways. I really think this analogy holds up in a big way, and illustrates why Aang is not a good romantic lead. He's on a spiritual journey. That's the way he's maturing, not the going-after-girls way. His thing for Katara just doesn't fit with that.

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I've seen the "bad dude gets the good girl" thing done too often already, usually with the emotive success of a paper bag (Korra/ Mako falls squarely into this category).

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So the age argument regarding Kataang never really held water for me. If a romance between a 12 year old and a 14 year old is weird, then so is a romance between a 14 year old and a 16 year old..

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I'm definitely not saying the Aang-Katara thing is unrealistic (except for the part about his age). Probably the contrary. All I'm saying is, it doesn't work as drama. Zuko and Katara would work. (Zuko and Mai as drama isn't too bad either, in terms of the set-up, but they kind of put it on the back burner when it needed to be developed further in S3.)

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I think where we differ is on the necessity of "drama" in this particular love story. Katara's love life is not the main arc of A:TLA (even for the character of Katara herself). At best, it's a minor side quest. Given that there's plenty of heart-stopping drama elsewhere in the series, I liked that the love story was comparatively low-key. Girl meets Boy, Boy is entranced by Girl, Girl gradually discovers that she likes Boy as well.

Plenty of tension arises from how Katara has to balance her feelings with her naturally "big picture"-oriented mentality, and how this conflicts with Aang's more touchy-feeling, "let's just admit how we feel about each other" approach. Just because it's understated and largely internal doesn't make that tension any less compelling from a storytelling perspective. It doesn't need soaring drama to be interesting or believable.

To me, anyway. Your mileage obviously varies.

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Cliches like this are archetypal for a reason, and good dramatists can pull them off in a way that feels fresh and fun. There are many successful examples. Good guy/bad girl is perhaps more common these days (Batman/Catwoman, Willow, Helo/Athena from BSG, the recent Miami Vice movie, Knights of the Old Republic). But the arrangement is the same however the genders break down.

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I should add, Korra/Mako doesn't qualify the way I'm understanding the archetype. Mako isn't a "bad guy," not in the sense that he's working for evil the way Zuko is in Last Airbender.

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Nope. Puberty is a HUGE milestone in development. A romance between a post-pubescent person and a pre-pubescent person is inherently creepy. Katara is a "young woman" and Aang is a "kid". Zuko and Katara would have been "young woman" and "young man", which is way less weird.

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Maybe by stated age, but again, Zuko's depiction in the show is far more similar to a 20-year old than a 16-year old. The dude has shoulders and abs that Sokka could only dream of, and he's struggling with existential questions that feel very "college years," rather than "high school years." To me, Zuko/ Katara doesn't feel like "young woman" and "young man" - it feels like "early teenage girl" and "20-year old man." Which is way, way creepier than "early teenage girl" and "pubescent boy" (although that, as I said earlier, is hardly without its own issues).

Again, if you're going to insist that the show adhere purely to age-appropriate romances, Sokka/ Suki is really your only option.

....Well, okay, maybe Ty Lee/ Azula.

Edit: Wait, how could I forget? The one other age-plausible pairing is one we got in the show, and a pretty great one, too: Zuko/ Mai. And hey, it's another case of two characters who have a strong personal connection based on mutual respect and eventually take their friendship to the next level. Sokka/ Suki, too! It's like the writers are consistent with how they write romances or something.

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 

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Sorry, I mistyped there - I meant "bad boy," as in the smoldering dangerous type. Going back to the Buffy example, Angel qualifies for this archetype as much as Spike did. Mako and Korra were rote "good girl falls for bad boy," and were thoroughly boring for it.

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In general, I think romance in fiction works best when it's "star-crossed" in some sense. There has to be something external that stands in the way of the couple, or else there will be no surprises or tension in store for the viewer. This is why Zuko/Mai worked (and worked better, IMO, than Sokka/Suki). Because Mai was Azula's creature, she was on the wrong side of the Zuko/Azula feud, and this threatened to come between her and Zuko. Made things pretty interesting for a while.

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Yeah, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. The idea that a love story requires some external force separating the couple is just bizarre to me. There are certainly great star-crossed lover stories out there, but to say that a love story need to be star-crossed to be interesting? I dunno, man.

Also, Zuko/Mai were plenty of fun even before Zuko switched sides.

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Korra never seemed to me anymore of a "good girl" then Mako was a "good boy". She is the avatar, and the hero of the piece, but she is also every bit as reactionary and explosive as Mako himself is, even more so really. Mako never seems to be crazy enough to take on the council, the police chief, or other established authority figures. Korra never really listens to anyone's directions, not even Iroh II.

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Korra's a "good girl" in the sense that she's a nice person who is presented as friendly and earnest. She's impetuous as all hell, but so was Katara. Mako, as a character archetype, is a classic "bad boy," down to his physical design - except that he's the coooooool bad boy (versus Zuko, who was more the brooding, smoldering type).

That being said, there are more problems with the Korra/Mako love story than just the archetypes they fill, so I'll grant that it may not have been the best counterexample.
 

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Posted by Destineer (Member # 821) on :
 

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In general, I think romance in fiction works best when it's "star-crossed" in some sense. There has to be something external that stands in the way of the couple, or else there will be no surprises or tension in store for the viewer. This is why Zuko/Mai worked (and worked better, IMO, than Sokka/Suki). Because Mai was Azula's creature, she was on the wrong side of the Zuko/Azula feud, and this threatened to come between her and Zuko. Made things pretty interesting for a while.

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Yeah, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. The idea that a love story requires some external force separating the couple is just bizarre to me. There are certainly great star-crossed lover stories out there, but to say that a love story need to be star-crossed to be interesting? I dunno, man.

Also, Zuko/Mai were plenty of fun even before Zuko switched sides.

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Azula kicked ass and did what needed to be done without fanfare. She was a bending prodigy and developed lightning bending on her own without any apparent instruction. She was by far Zuko's superior.

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1. She purposely pulled the other two girls into the fight so she could have her own little court to abuse and be praised by, even going as far as threatening to burn down a whole circus just because Mei didn't want to get in the middle of a war.

2. Azula was shown being instructed by the two creepy old ladies at least once, they seemed to be her personal nannies most times but they may as well have been a part of the Fire-Nation religion and thus well trained in fire-bending.

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1. I think you mean Ty Lee at the circus, don't you? Azula assessed the job that needed to be done, and picked the right team to accomplish it, giving them the incentive they needed to motivate them properly. Her methods were decisive and effective, if not always endearing.

2. The nannies were awesome, too, and of course Azula would have been trained in fire bending from a young age. But the blue lightning type of fire bending stuff was quite uncommon. From what we know, only Iroh and Azula were able to do it. Iroh learned by watching water benders. We don't know how Azula learned it. She was apparently just a prodigy.

Seriously, all she wanted was to kill all her enemies and take over the world. Is that so unseemly in a girl? We admire men like that! She's my hero!
 

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Posted by Jeff C. (Member # 12496) on :
 
Good news everyone!

The Legend of Korra was renewed or an additional 2 seasons, which means it will go for a total of four seasons, 52 episodes!!!!

Everyone get excited!

On a side note, the second season will delve heavily into the Spirit World. In fact, book two is actually called "Spirits". As the show develops, Team Avatar will venture outside of the city and explore the rest of the world, little by little, town by town. We'll start to see familiar places as well as entirely new areas.

It looks like everyone's complaints have been addressed. I don't know about you guys, but I'm very happy about this news.
 

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Posted by Dan_Frank (Member # 8488) on :
 

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Good news everyone!

The Legend of Korra was renewed or an additional 2 seasons, which means it will go for a total of four seasons, 52 episodes!!!!

Everyone get excited!

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
I just watched a panel video of a live read from SDCC.

David Faustino (Bud Bundy) is Mako. I don't know if I can separate the two now, I certainly have watched far more Married With Children than I ever will Legend of Korra.
 

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Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I just finished reading "The Lost Adventures" comic from The Last Airbender and I'd highly recommend it to anyone. It's a series of tiny short stories, some just a few pages long, but it's great! I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud so much at a book. They absolutely nailed the humor.
 

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Posted by Tarrsk (Member # 332) on :
 
Seconded - the Lost Adventures comics are fantastic. The tale of "Private Wang Fire" is one of my favorite Avatar stories in any form.
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I read that entire story in Sokka's fake Wang Fire voice. I think it was my favorite from the graphic novel.
 

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Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
Book two has a semi-official but vague release date!

http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/2013/03/28/book-2-of-the-legend-of-korra-to-release-in-the-middle-of-april/
 

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Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Supposedly we'll hear something more specific really soon. Lots of people think there will be an announcement at Momocon. That really just snuck in out of nowhere. Usually you hear about these things months in advance, not just a couple weeks.

Very much looking forward to this. I'm also looking forward to it being over way too early and then sulking for 15 months waiting for Book 3.
 

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Book two has a semi-official but vague release date!

http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/2013/03/28/book-2-of-the-legend-of-korra-to-release-in-the-middle-of-april/

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