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Posted by Sa'eed (Member # 12368) on :
 
trailer:

It's from that guy who made those Hellboy movies.
 
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
 
Stringer Bell and Jax in EVAs fighting Godzilla.

They should shut up and take my money.
 
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
 
While being commented on by Glados.

Directed by Guillermo Del Toro.
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
Cause if our planet is being attacked by giant monsters, the most efficient means of resistance is obviously creating giant human controlled robots!
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
We're constantly spending millions on hardware that the military doesn't want and can't use. I'm assuming that in this universe, Japan has become part of the U.S. and one of their Senators is head of the Armed Services Committee.

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Honestly, this looks like it could be awesome.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
If they are human-controlled they are not 'robots'. Robots are autonomous. Human-controlled vehicles are just that - vehicles. Possibly "Large Anthroform Vehicles" or something, but not robots.
 
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
Real Steel and now this?

We're getting closer to my dream of a One Must Fall 2097 movie. One step at a time.
 
Posted by Dr Strangelove (Member # 8331) on :
 
Yeah, I just can't get past Glados... I'm really hoping she turns out to be the diabolical/sympathetic force behind opening the portal that lets the monsters in.
 
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
I hope they have a plot device to explain why a bunker buster wouldn't be far more effective. There's no way a rocket powered punch would come close to the amount of damage inflicted, barring some zany explanation.

I can understand why they wouldn't want to use one when fighting in the middle of a city, but once the creature is in the water bomb the daylights out of it!

The F-22's flying right into smacking range like a friggen biplane makes me think there probably isn't a good explanation. Oh well, maybe I can turn my brain off long enough.
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
quote:
I hope they have a plot device to explain why a bunker buster wouldn't be far more effective.
I mostly hope they don't. It's a freaking big robots fight monsters movie. Let it be what it is. If you can't enjoy it because it is wildly illogical, you are not doing it right.
 
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
 
That's the kind of statement that got thrown around a lot when the first Transformers movie came out.

Next, accuse me of "not liking fun".
 
Posted by Darth_Mauve (Member # 4709) on :
 
Xavier--I accuse you of not liking fun.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xavier:

The F-22's flying right into smacking range like a friggen biplane makes me think there probably isn't a good explanation. Oh well, maybe I can turn my brain off long enough.

Can you imagine the noise generated by an F-22 with its afterburners firing that close to the ground? Not to mention it would be flying itself apart at that speed trying to actually maneuver low in the atmosphere... (that's if it were actually moving as fast as the afterburners would make it move).

It's ironic that we try to make an F-22 look epic by depicting it moving at like 100mph. When, it would be close to stalling at such a low speed.
 
Posted by Aros (Member # 4873) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
If they are human-controlled they are not 'robots'. Robots are autonomous. Human-controlled vehicles are just that - vehicles. Possibly "Large Anthroform Vehicles" or something, but not robots.

From the trailer, these appear to be remote control drones -- people aren't riding in them. Like military drones and bomb disposal robots, these fall into the classification of telerobots. Thus . . . you are wrong.

[Eek!] [Eek!]
 
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xavier:
That's the kind of statement that got thrown around a lot when the first Transformers movie came out.

Next, accuse me of "not liking fun".

I almost put in a "That isn't a Michael Bey piece of garbage" in there. The Transformers movies were bad, and part of that came from the freedom of not having to make any darn sense, but that wasn't why they were bad.

Certain types of movies contain, as part of their price of admission, the acceptance that the central concept isn't going to make sense. Most horror movies are a good example of this, for example. Pretty much any movie besides Primer that relies on time travel. Heck, even if you grant the universe of The Avengers, the various best/awesome parts of the movie still don't make sense if you think about them. And so on.

These movies don't have to make sense in our reality. They set up their rules and, if they do it right, follow them. If they don't play fair, people do get pulled out of the experience and have a right to criticize. However, following the rules, especially in the terms of holding up to a thorough logical analysis, is not at all what these movies are about. They're about delivering the experience that the movie is made for.

Horror movies are made to scare the crap out of people. Zombies, unstoppable killing psychos, etc don't make any sense and people generally don't behave rationally in a horror movie. The Avengers "These crazy powerful people fight each other" or "Let's fight this massive alien invasion one on one." scenes weren't about how you would realistically defend against this sort of threat if you had those powers. They were about kick ass comic book action.

Likewise, Giant Robots Fight Monsters isn't about how we would actually combat an invasion of giant
monsters. It's about watching Giant Robots fighting Monsters. This type of movie is never going to make sense in terms of the real world. Trying to make it work is either not going to help or most likely hurt the movie. Either it is a throw away line that will do no good against criticism (one part of Snakes on a Plane, which I loved, that most people miss is when the main bad guy says during a phone call "Don't you think I thought of that. This was my last option!" See, none of the ways you would have thought of would work. He went with snakes on the plane because it was the only thing left!!!) or is like inserting Midichlorians, trying to explain the mystery and ruining why people .

That doesn't mean that these movies get a free pass. They could be good or bad. And a lot of that is determined by how stupid they are inside the rules of the movie they set up.

In this particular case, I think that this looks likely that it is going to be a pretty good movie in the Giant Robots Fight Monsters, but if you can't enjoy a movie whose central conceit flies in the face of what would be sensible in the real world, then any movie of this sort is never going to work for you and the change you're asking for to help you deal with this is only going to make the movie worse.
 
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
 
Looks alright. The synchronized team-work piloting feels kind of doofy to look at, but I'll be there opening night.
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
Anyone remember/love Robot Jox?
 


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