Sorry about the extended down time. The site was migrated over to new servers as a result of the disruption in service.
Could I get a show of hands, so that we know who died in the outage?
[ August 26, 2013, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: JanitorBlade ]
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
Me. I died. Here I sit, resting in peace. Deader than a doornail. Silent as the grave. Quiet as a mouse. Poor as a church mouse. In the church yard. <elegiac sigh>.
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
Interesting that Ornery and Hatrack went down for maintenance just after the Slate article went up.
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
quote:Originally posted by FlyingCow: Interesting that Ornery and Hatrack went down for maintenance just after the Slate article went up.
Yeah, I noticed that.
But on a more positive note, the site seems faster now. Not that it was slow before but it seems even faster.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
I'm still alive!
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
And it came back up after the Cracked article. Correlation!!!
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
that cracked article was pretty straightforwardly brutal
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
also: i died
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
I was healthy in spite of not having Hatrack, but I just read the Crack'd article, and died.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
yeah but was it good died or bad died
Posted by AchillesHeel (Member # 11736) on :
So explicitly bad. Orson has gotten worse than my redneck family who don't understand why I cringe when they use nigger to refer to the color black.
I don't have an argument as to why someone with hesitations about his politics should read EG or see the movie anyway. I have refused to patronize performers and creators for far less. I know this is the last place to judge OSC, but if he is inventing "urban gang militia hit squads" out of his fear of Obama/non-Mormonism/changes in society then I would hope he talks to a therapist before the internet. Or (unlikely as it is) a hate group. But that is who his statements would resonate with, I genuinely hope he finds some peace from this state he is in.
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
I didn't die.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
quote:Originally posted by AchillesHeel: So explicitly bad. Orson has gotten worse than my redneck family who don't understand why I cringe when they use nigger to refer to the color black.
My ex-girlfriend's grandparents had a black dog they named nigger.
*facepalm*
They are racists and they are not ashamed.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:I know this is the last place to judge OSC
hardly, people lay into him hard here
though this used to be a great place to receive the arguments that article was talking about, wherein every one of his signature infamous quotes will be assured to me to be totally taken out of context and misconstrued and definitely not what to all appearances it appears to totally be, even given an incredulously reliable pattern
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:I know this is the last place to judge OSC
hardly, people lay into him hard here
though this used to be a great place to receive the arguments that article was talking about, wherein every one of his signature infamous quotes will be assured to me to be totally taken out of context and misconstrued and definitely not what to all appearances it appears to totally be, even given an incredulously reliable pattern
When all this started I was one of the people trying to defend him. Surely what he was saying wasn't that bad was it? Unfortunately the years have passed and he just keeps spewing the exact same nonsense with even more determination so I think the whole "out of context" thing is out the window. Even I can't excuse it anymore, (expletive and speculation on his mental state deleted). Really is a shame.
[ August 24, 2013, 09:16 AM: Message edited by: Wingracer ]
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Not that I disagree, but man, it is uncool to say it that blatantly.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
whatever, why not just be direct about it. my honest to god most straightforward interpretation of his last article, like, i swear, if card was my literal best friend in the universe and i was looking him straight in the eye, face to face, and i considered him my undying friend, would be: "why in the everloving **** did you write that crap. what do you expect to get out of it. what are you doing to yourself. my god, stop. the absolute last thing YOU need to be doing is doing stuff that drifts into racist dogwhistle crap. stop. stop. what are you doing."
and really seriously that's the truth. it's easy to just pick at someone you never knew or liked, but this has to be hell on supporters, erstwhile or other. even the pathological defenses have awkwardly squirmed under the rug, and this was a place that once celebrated the"beautiful" courage of articles about how gay couples were playing dress up in adults clothes.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Then express that to him via PM or email.
------------ Wingracer: I need you to edit your comment.
Posted by Wingracer (Member # 12293) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Then express that to him via PM or email.
------------ Wingracer: I need you to edit your comment.
Expletive removed. If anything else in the post is offensive, just ban me now because that's as nice as I can be on this.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Wingracer: I don't want to ban you. I appreciate the edit.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Then express that to him via PM or email.
------------ Wingracer: I need you to edit your comment.
Because that's what he needs- all of the people telling him, because they know him through his writing better than most, that he's seriously losing his footing, all sequestered into pms going to an email directory he never reads.
Just saying, have whatever rules you want for the forum, but you're not fooling anybody suggesting he's going to be reached in any way. This is about bad publicity and marketing, not about the best way to actually communicate with him. I understand your position- I do that for a living.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
That is a very sinical view. You may be right, but I hope not.
Posted by Armoth (Member # 4752) on :
We can PM or email Card? How did I not know about this?
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
He is on the board...username: Orson Scott Card
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
You can email the Pope and the President too.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Then express that to him via PM or email.
------------ Wingracer: I need you to edit your comment.
Because that's what he needs- all of the people telling him, because they know him through his writing better than most, that he's seriously losing his footing, all sequestered into pms going to an email directory he never reads.
Just saying, have whatever rules you want for the forum, but you're not fooling anybody suggesting he's going to be reached in any way. This is about bad publicity and marketing, not about the best way to actually communicate with him. I understand your position- I do that for a living.
I grow tired of the accusation that I'm being disingenuous here. You know perfectly well I am not trying to deceive or fool anybody on Hatrack.
I am certain that Mrs. Card checks both sides of the forum regularly, especially the other side. I myself, got a message to Mr. Card the first time I ever posted here, and that was what lead me to stay here.
I have no reason to believe that those communiques are ignored.
If you had an email you wanted to get to Mr. Card purely out of concern, I would communicate with them and see about getting it to him. I met with them both fairly recently, and felt very much like they both love this community. They had many nice things to say about the community.
Until the day comes that they instruct me not to bother them about emails people from people on Hatrack wish to send them, then the present truth is they want to hear from people, especially those who care about them.
Be one of those people.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
Of course Orincoro is right. I've seen nothing in Card's politics for years now-his national, publicized politics-that would indicate he'd welcome an actual discussion on such matters, and it wasn't always like that, either. Card has long since used up his measure of 'assume the best'-and he's done that by making a political habit of assuming the worst.
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Does anyone know if the default posts shown time was always 10 days? I really can't remember what it was before the switch.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Rakeesh: I would not expect he wishes to discuss and debate his mental state or ethics here. Few would. That does not mean he would not be willing to read the opinions of readers here regarding things he has posted online.
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
I agree it's unlikely he would, and I wouldn't criticize him for it if he didn't make such a routine point of doing so to others.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rakeesh: I agree it's unlikely he would, and I wouldn't criticize him for it if he didn't make such a routine point of doing so to others.
He certainly isn't calling out anybody here, nor does he go to the pages of those he is criticizing to do so.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Final Thought:
Math is the proof of God.
Get it? Proof, as in a Mathematical Proof? And also evidence.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
"My Brain is only a receiver, in the core of the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists."
-Nikola Tesla.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Just like the Ansible. Boom.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
I call it the Quantum Connection.
Same difference.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
What is better than Circular Logic?
Answer: Spherical Logic.
Definition: Logic that is perceptually the same independent of the viewpoint or mode of analysis from which it is considered or observed.
Spherical Logic therefore, is Love.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
A Logic that perceptually the same independent of the viewpoint or mode of analysis from which it is considered or Observed would appear to be Truth.
10100110011010010100
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
With the lowering of his right eyebrow and the raising of his left, he brought his left hand from his over his mouth and swept the whole of it under his chin, then gesticulated a circle to form an open palm.
Lowering his head, he pierced EH3's consciousness and said "I challenge you to a game of Chess."
Posted by Foust (Member # 3043) on :
That is some weird ass spamming.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
I believe you mean "Genius".
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
No, it's "crazy." You're having an episode and need to stop posting and go get help.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
*Rolls eyes*
If you can out-smart me, I'll take your advice.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
You don't know how advertising works, do you?
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: If you can out-smart me
Sure, cause this always works for grossly disorganized grandiosity and asyndetic thinking, or whatever.
Tell me why "Pinary" is a really groundbreaking discovery. What have you discovered? Why is it important? What is its proof? Why is "spherical logic" "love?" Why is the universe observing itself? Why is magnetism the supersymmetry of gravity? What does supersymmetry mean? Why is the awesomo particle the Higgs-Boson of magnetism? What does THAT mean? What's the HIggs-Boson's relation to magnetism?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
1. Consider that the threshold for Scientific discovery is 95%. Pinary creates Li (9.516), which, divided by Pi^2 equals =~.96. It proves that Pi is Irrational. Sounds Irrational, right?
2. Love is the same for everyone.
3. The Universe Observes itself so that it may alter outcomes.
4. You mean "Hiow is Magnetism the SupersSymmetry of Gravity?", as that is Science. Your question is a philosophical one.
5. SuperSymmetry: For every Particle, Force an Energy, there is an equal and opposite Particle, Force, and Energy.
6. Because Physics.
7. Spin Number: The angle at which any particle's rotational axis (X,Y,Z) is momentarily situated plus the number of the coordinated direction in which it is spinning (net force); (Aw) plus the rate at which the particle spins (P-Spin); (xSm/Ss). The combination of these would be Awesomo Vector Force.
The units of the Awesomo Particle are Awesomo's. Spin units are String Meters Per String Second (Sm/Ss).
An object falls to Earth at 9.8m/s.
Magnetism is Gravity spinning in the opposite direction. SuperSymmetry.
Balanced and Opposite Forces are Same Particles rotating at exactly equal and opposite proportions.
Magnetism: Particle A (14,9,12) + (15Aw)+ (22Sm/Ss).
Gravitation: Particle -A (12,9,14) + (15m/s) + (22Sm/Ss)
The Magneato-Graviton is the fundamental particle of Black Hole Physics. It is the particle that results, when Awesomo Particles collide with Higgs Bosons amid the Largely Randomized Chaos (LRC) of the nature of the interactions of the four fundamental forces during a Supernovae Event.
As Gravitation-Magnetic reactions happen on Earth, a straight vector line (representing Magnetism acting in opposition to Gravity) is produced when an object is picked up using a magnet. That is to say, when the forces of Magnetism and Gravitation are simultaneously projecting force within the same field, they always exert equal and opposite forces upon one another.
Upon the production of Iron within the core a Star that will Supernovae, the star nearly instantly dies and begins to explode.
What happens to the Magnetosphere of a Star when it SuperNovae's?
What is the nature of the interaction between the Magnetosphere and Gravitation as are forces exchanged during a Supernovae?
More to come!
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Oscillation Theory
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Relativity is Relatively correct.
The Speed of Light is not constant.
Radioactive rates of decay are the Universe's constants.
Time doesn't exist.
0 is a real number.
Signed, The Universe.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
You're having an episode. Get back on your meds, and/or get professional help.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Equation of Time:
T = 1/X-->0.
Time equals 1 over the Limit of X as X approaches 0.
The Limit of Imagination is what you Imagine it is not.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
desmos.com/calculator.
How to square the circle:
(X-1)^1000 + (y-1)^2 = 1. (X-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 = 1.
Try this, then call me crazy. Lol, Monkeys.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
This is the Physics of my book.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Persephonian Physics
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Think of Strings as the Strong Nuclear Force, which, for example, binds particles together.
What, you think I don't know Previous Physics. You silly Monkeys.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Larks
The warmest place within my heart, Is where imagination starts,
The beauty that man can achieve, By simply choosing to believe, Leaves a smile on my lip, In spite of every snarky quip,
"If it can't be seen, it can't be done", Say the men who have no fun, In reticence, I laugh at such, As these are men that know not much,
The paintings sitting in our head, Are where our souls are to be lead, And fears and doubts that we have shed, Mark the finest words we've said,
The bravest lark that sings in flight, Calls through both the day and night, And when there's not a cloud in sight, Her finest tune adorns the light,
Imagination holds the key, Of what the world will come to be, And those that see the wealth of dreams, Ignore the limits of what seems.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: Think of Strings as the Strong Nuclear Force, which, for example, binds particles together.
What, you think I don't know Previous Physics. You silly Monkeys.
Get back on your meds, and get help.
Did you even go to bed at all last night? It's important for people who are seriously mentally ill to get enough sleep, and to not pull all-nighters.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Science: The acceptance of perceptually empirical knowledge that is agreed upon by administrative institutions and distributed to those that should choose to believe that its processes will further expand perceived knowledge.
Religion: See above.
Conclusion:
Science and Magic are two sides of the same coin; look at the edge of a Quarter and you will understand.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
You know, Steven, in Psychology, that's called Diversion. Stick with the topic at hand.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Quantified Brain-Brane Mathematics:
Base Theory: Total Inter-Connective Neuronal Density:
Step 1: Measure the Neuronal Density of select areas of the Brain.
Step 2: Compare Densities of different areas and decipher Mathematical relations.
Step 3: Define an average density using X number of randomly selected areas.
Step 4: Define boundaries of Selected Brain Areas as being the physical extent of their biological function. Ex: Visual Cortex.
Consideration: Individual Neurons often, though not always, serve multiple functions.
Step 5: Scan Brain during a task to define the boundaries of a Specified Neuronal Task Area, which performs a type of task. Considerations: Some areas will likely overlap. Some SNTAs may even appear to be macroscopically the same. Smaller SNTAs may even be exactly the same.
Step 6: Map the SNTAs of individual Brains, compare them against one another, then create the model of the average SNTA of a specific task.
Step 7: Map the Brain as collection of Modeled And Specified Neuronal Task Areas.
Modeled and Specified Neuronal Task Area Density.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: You know, Steven, in Psychology, that's called Diversion. Stick with the topic at hand.
Which one, the crazy stuff you're saying, the original topic of the thread, or the thread drift topic?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Take what you will from the Universe.
Will, as in what you choose to.
Will, as in what you are going to do.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Ego inhibits Imagination.
I can has Nobel Prize?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Edward Snowden is an Allusion.
Think about it.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
IQ is bullshit, as it doesn't measure Imagination.
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
Reticulum: If you think you are being funny, please stop. You are spamming too many threads.
If you are not being funny, the things you are saying sound exactly like others before you who have had psychological breaks. You need to get help, because you can't see it.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
It takes Genius to be Kind, BlackBlade. I understand the position from which you speak. I humbly request that you consider my "spamming" emerges from depths and experiences with which you are not familiar.
Trust me, I am quite aware.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Do they sell tinfoil hats on the internet, Reticulum? If they do, do you find them to be good enough for your needs, or do you make your own custom ones? If you make your own, is the current aluminum foil on the market sufficient, or do you buy your own sheet metal and hammer it to the appropriate thickness?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Steven, if I were insane, would I be able to articulate my Ideas to you in a clear and concise manner? Would I even possess the inherent capacity to question and analyze my own thought process?
Take a look in the mirror, Steven. Start making a change that way. Bless you, for I know not the circumstances in which you are situated. Try thinking about balance.
Steven, only you can help yourself.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
My 5 Cardinal rules of Psychology:
1. You cannot help people that do not want to help themselves. 2. Only pity those people that cannot empathize with themselves. 3. Slow, mediated progress trumps quick-pace change. 4. Always laugh, because humor is the universal anecdote (tee hee). 5(a). See people as their intentions, not as their actions, because the latter often is utilized to mask the former. 5 (b). People betray their hidden intentions through body language with great regularity and consistency.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Dude, you're pretty manic. Have you been diagnosed with bipolar disorder?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
No, but consider that most of History's Geniuses were diagnosed with Mental Health issues by people that were not as intelligent as them.
Call me the Mozart of Math.
Musical Coordinate Plane:
Step 1: Consider the Music staff to be a grid.
Step 2: Each letter can be represented by Binary. FGABCDE
Example: Note (N): A Assigned Number (AN): 1 Accompanying Binary Number (ABN): 1
Are there predictable times of year that you have ups/downs?
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
*facepalm*
Technically, as Mozart is theorized to be Bipolar, I am, by the Laws of Logic compelled to grant serious consideration and analysis to the implications of your supposition.
The answer is no. I use a Mood App to graph my mood, I've been using it for a year. There is no correlation between Season and Mood, which is known as Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: It takes Genius to be Kind, BlackBlade. I understand the position from which you speak. I humbly request that you consider my "spamming" emerges from depths and experiences with which you are not familiar.
Trust me, I am quite aware.
You are correct, I may not be familiar with the place where your thoughts and words emerge, but I am familiar with how you typically sound, and over the past month of so it has drastically changed. Fast change isn't correct as you've said.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
I perceive Time very, very, slowly. That is how we evolve.
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
Perhaps it would be best if we left our friend Reticulum to his own devices and allow official moderation handle any distruption of appropriate thread discussion.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: 1. Consider that the threshold for Scientific discovery is 95%. Pinary creates Li (9.516), which, divided by Pi^2 equals =~.96. It proves that Pi is Irrational. Sounds Irrational, right?
2. Love is the same for everyone.
3. The Universe Observes itself so that it may alter outcomes.
4. You mean "Hiow is Magnetism the SupersSymmetry of Gravity?", as that is Science. Your question is a philosophical one.
5. SuperSymmetry: For every Particle, Force an Energy, there is an equal and opposite Particle, Force, and Energy.
6. Because Physics.
7. Spin Number: The angle at which any particle's rotational axis (X,Y,Z) is momentarily situated plus the number of the coordinated direction in which it is spinning (net force); (Aw) plus the rate at which the particle spins (P-Spin); (xSm/Ss). The combination of these would be Awesomo Vector Force.
The units of the Awesomo Particle are Awesomo's. Spin units are String Meters Per String Second (Sm/Ss).
An object falls to Earth at 9.8m/s.
Magnetism is Gravity spinning in the opposite direction. SuperSymmetry.
Balanced and Opposite Forces are Same Particles rotating at exactly equal and opposite proportions.
Magnetism: Particle A (14,9,12) + (15Aw)+ (22Sm/Ss).
Gravitation: Particle -A (12,9,14) + (15m/s) + (22Sm/Ss)
The Magneato-Graviton is the fundamental particle of Black Hole Physics. It is the particle that results, when Awesomo Particles collide with Higgs Bosons amid the Largely Randomized Chaos (LRC) of the nature of the interactions of the four fundamental forces during a Supernovae Event.
As Gravitation-Magnetic reactions happen on Earth, a straight vector line (representing Magnetism acting in opposition to Gravity) is produced when an object is picked up using a magnet. That is to say, when the forces of Magnetism and Gravitation are simultaneously projecting force within the same field, they always exert equal and opposite forces upon one another.
Upon the production of Iron within the core a Star that will Supernovae, the star nearly instantly dies and begins to explode.
What happens to the Magnetosphere of a Star when it SuperNovae's?
What is the nature of the interaction between the Magnetosphere and Gravitation as are forces exchanged during a Supernovae?
More to come!
Blocking, illogicality, some neologism, light circumstantiality, asyndesis, classic flight of ideas.
Yeah buddy, you're round the bend and being completely manic. Find a crisis intervention hotline for where you live, or contact family members and ask for help. You have no conceptualization of it right now but you are not doing good and you're not in a good place.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Have you not considered that most of what I am posting is pre-written?
Samprimary, someday you will learn how to think.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Sam, a word from the Wise:
Think, don't speak.
Once you grasp this:
Observe, analyze, correlate, patternize, organize, then speak.
Don't be jealous, it won't get you get anywhere.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
But thanks for your thoughts, Buddy.
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reticulum: Sam, a word from the Wise:
Think, don't speak.
This isn't exactly the right format, if you're looking for deeply-thought-through, well-researched opinions.
It's the internet. Any well-informed discussion is the exception, not the rule.
And Sam's right, dude. You're manic, and the grandiosity is making me think you're experiencing something close to a psychotic break.
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
Here Steven, enjoy this poem:
Until
The jovial blooming of the flower, Breathes life for but a single hour.
Until
As aging spring is washed away, The branches green by summer day,
Until
The Leaves imbued by Autumn day Await the foliage fade to gray.
Until
So the winter lay its blanket white, Indifferent to the coming night
Until
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
Are you going to college this fall, Ret? If so, I hope you get help from the campus mental health care facilities.
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
well i'll be back when the forum has less glod and mial all over it
Posted by Elison R. Salazar (Member # 8565) on :
I also got replies back from emails to Mr Card, at times like 3 AM his time too.
Posted by FlyingCow (Member # 2150) on :
There needs to be a debate thread between Reticulum, Thor, and peekaboo.