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Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
Queue ten seconds of logos at the beginning.

http://youtu.be/ZSzeFFsKEt4
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Could use more Mario Kart action.
 
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
 
Why are there so many people who are literate enough to spell 'queue' but not literate enough to know the difference between 'queue' and 'cue'?
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
I've written the wrong one down while consciously knowing which one I meant because the act of typing is a somewhat passive activity. You think words, and your fingers try to follow.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Why are there so many people who are literate enough to spell 'queue' but not literate enough to know the difference between 'queue' and 'cue'?

Queue works well enough in this instance.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
Oh, I just learned a new word. Seriously. I've know queue since primary school, seen "cue" a couple of times but now I've reached 2nd level- active knowledge of the word.

As non-native, you know that I can tell you how I learned almost every word? Most of them are from computer games. Like (please forgive me, I'm bored out of my mind, summer, can't get anything done around this office):

depot, factory, - Red Alert.
Fiancé, negligee - Monkey Island (the insult game written by OSC btw),
additional - StarCraft ("You must construct additional pylons!")
timber, lumber - WarCraft
obviously all the military stuff from Civ.

And books, too.
Malleable, Ender's Game, first page
Flabbergasted, vigilance, cheesy (sic!) - Harry Potter, part 4
Loitering - every Lee Child's novel
to err - LoTR.

pre-School:
Ornemental box - I was like five. I couldn't say I'm hungry, but thanks to miss Isabella, I knew ornemental box.
primary school:
apt to, put up with - I had to memorize a bunch of quotes by Erasm of Rotterdam for a "European Picnic"
junior high:
lackadaisical, ambidextrous - teacher liked these kinds of words
high:
Go off, knock up, kick around -
same teacher. Phrasal verbs for three years.

American people:
biased, biased, biased - it's impossible to have a conversation longer than 3 minutes and not have this word come up. Biased. Biased.
trippin' - same. I think I had bad company.
sweet, neat, straight - the "straight" that has nothing to do with sexuality

songs:
Submarine - guess which The beatles song
foe - Lady in black
chamber - Hotel California

It is fun. It is boring you right now, but it is fun. It makes you remember the situations very vividly. I can see them before my eyes. Have a nice day.

And, a mediocre trailer by the way, I love the Pippin song, though.
 
Posted by Mr. Y (Member # 11590) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Szymon:
foe - Lady in black

I like that this song was actually used in schools in Germany to teach the English language.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
Yeah, actually our teacher played this song for us. All the classics, actually. And "Within temptation" all the time, he loved them.
 
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Why are there so many people who are literate enough to spell 'queue' but not literate enough to know the difference between 'queue' and 'cue'?

Oops.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
Cue the backlash against grammar nazis.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Szymon:
Oh, I just learned a new word. Seriously. I've know queue since primary school, seen "cue" a couple of times but now I've reached 2nd level- active knowledge of the word.

As non-native, you know that I can tell you how I learned almost every word? Most of them are from computer games. Like (please forgive me, I'm bored out of my mind, summer, can't get anything done around this office):

depot, factory, - Red Alert.
Fiancé, negligee - Monkey Island (the insult game written by OSC btw),
additional - StarCraft ("You must construct additional pylons!")
timber, lumber - WarCraft
obviously all the military stuff from Civ.

And books, too.
Malleable, Ender's Game, first page
Flabbergasted, vigilance, cheesy (sic!) - Harry Potter, part 4
Loitering - every Lee Child's novel
to err - LoTR.

pre-School:
Ornemental box - I was like five. I couldn't say I'm hungry, but thanks to miss Isabella, I knew ornemental box.
primary school:
apt to, put up with - I had to memorize a bunch of quotes by Erasm of Rotterdam for a "European Picnic"
junior high:
lackadaisical, ambidextrous - teacher liked these kinds of words
high:
Go off, knock up, kick around -
same teacher. Phrasal verbs for three years.

American people:
biased, biased, biased - it's impossible to have a conversation longer than 3 minutes and not have this word come up. Biased. Biased.
trippin' - same. I think I had bad company.
sweet, neat, straight - the "straight" that has nothing to do with sexuality

songs:
Submarine - guess which The beatles song
foe - Lady in black
chamber - Hotel California

It is fun. It is boring you right now, but it is fun. It makes you remember the situations very vividly. I can see them before my eyes. Have a nice day.

And, a mediocre trailer by the way, I love the Pippin song, though.

Very cool that you know where you learned those words from. Thanks for sharing that list. I wish I could remember where I picked up words I often use, but for most words that's in the very distant past for me. I love stumbling across a new word or new usage and rolling it around in my mouth. Where I work, we do enough brainstorming for product names, taglines, and titles that I actively collect words and phrases I find interesting.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
But it's much more difficult for you, as a native. Do you speak any other languages?
 
Posted by Herblay (Member # 11834) on :
 
<Blinks> Don't talk to him. He'll keep going on this way, if you do.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I speak French. It's definitely easier to come across words I haven't heard before in that language. I'm not quite sure what you mean by difficult, though.

quote:
<Blinks> Don't talk to him. He'll keep going on this way, if you do.
Are you talking to Szymon or me? I wasn't aware this exchange had any trollishness in it.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
advice,

I mean it's much more difficult, because you learn 90% of the words within first 5 years of your life [Wink]

I'm not trolling. Am I being trolled?
 
Posted by Herblay (Member # 11834) on :
 
You'll pretend it's simple thread highjacking, but it won't take long before it gets worse. Much worse.

Don't say I didn't warn you.
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
"Queue" is an excellent Scrabble word.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
So is zoeae, or even better, only "e" is doubled.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
I have no idea who is trolling whom here now.

Tell you what, let's just cut the baby in half.
 
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
 
Ok. But so help me God, I am no troll.
 
Posted by Jake (Member # 206) on :
 
:: exposes Szymon to sunlight ::

:: watches as Szymon fails to turn to stone ::
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
"What else floats?"
 
Posted by manji (Member # 11600) on :
 
New trailer: http://youtu.be/iVAgTiBrrDA
 
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
 
It looks pretty serviceable, yet massively disappointing at the same time.

lets do this!
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
Ugh... 20+ hours of feature film so far, and somehow I care less and less with each movie.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Could use more Mario Kart action.

I forgot to "like" this when you posted it earlier. I never saw the 2nd installment, did it have the wildly slewing sled/cart action too? It would be cool for it to be 3 for 3.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
Ugh... 20+ hours of feature film so far, and somehow I care less and less with each movie.

Yup.

Because they've been getting steadily worse.

Though I think Hobbit II was a big improvement over the lackluster Hobbit I.

This will just be a big battle orgy, which I think we learned from the first movie can be a mistake if not broken up by some storytelling. We'll see if he remembers the lesson of that movie for this one.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
These films are bloated and boring, tonally bizarre, and preachy, but in a stupid, annoying way.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
Battle of Five armies is easily the best of the three.

It had two hours of battles and still left me wanting more. Haven't felt that about the series yet.

For the first time I took note of the music and actually liked it. That too was new.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
I liked aall of the LOTR music...
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
The LOTR music was epic, stunning and fantastic.

The Hobbit music has been flat, underwhelming and repetitive.
 
Posted by Dogbreath (Member # 11879) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
The LOTR was epic, stunning and fantastic.

The Hobbit has been flat, underwhelming and repetitive.

Removing two words makes this a pretty apt description of the movies.
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
It amazes me just how much the Peter Jackson additions to LOTR have soured the movie so much in my mind. Whereas at first I loved them completely. Now I love the stuff that isn't additions, and loath the stuff that is.
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
The LOTR was epic, stunning and fantastic.

The Hobbit has been flat, underwhelming and repetitive.

Removing two words makes this a pretty apt description of the movies.
I'm of the direct opposite opinion. I've really enjoyed the Hobbit movies so far, and really had to struggle to enjoy the LOTR movies the way I wanted to. But I'm with BB on this--my main beef with the LOTR movies was the somewhat gratuitous Peter Jackson changes. With the Hobbit, I don't know the story quite as inside and out, so I'm blissfully ignorant of most of whatever changes he's making and able to just enjoy the movies for what they are.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
It's not the content plot changes that are so bothersome.

It's just lumbering, ponderous, and overwrought.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
It amazes me just how much the Peter Jackson additions to LOTR have soured the movie so much in my mind. Whereas at first I loved them completely. Now I love the stuff that isn't additions, and loath the stuff that is.

Same here. And they seem a lot more glaring than they used to.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I've been meaning to go back and rewatch all the extended cuts for awhile. Haven't seen them in years.

Hope they don't disappoint.
 
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
 
They do. But they are still more than I thought I would ever see so I still enjoy them.
 
Posted by MaryCobb (Member # 13219) on :
 
I agree with Jon Boy and Janitor Blade. They should leave LOTR alone and stop riding on its popularity [Smile]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
I always liked the Hobbit book more than LOTR books, and while I enjoy the movies, Jackson seems to be trying to Lucas himself really hard. I hope the last installment is less Bombar the bouncing bloody barrel basher and more glorious visuals straight from the book.
 
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
 
I think you'll be pleased, if those are your standards for success.

There's a lot of excellent stuff pulled right from the book.

Lee Pace, in my opinion, steals the movie in many ways. Of all the characters cast in the movie, he's more spot on than I possibly could have imagined.
 


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