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Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
How have I never heard of this before?

http://scifiaddicts.com/orson-scott-card-new-sci-fi-series-extinct/

The synopsis sounds somewhat like Philip Jose Farmer's "Riverworld". I've never heard of BYUtv though, so I guess it'll be a while before I'm able to see it. Does anybody know anything about this series?
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
Oh snap! I saw a blurb about this but did not know Mr. Card is connected so directly.

Super interested in watching it eventually. Love the premise.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
BYUtv did the series Granite Flats-- a story about a little town in Colorado (I think) that encounters G-men, communists, abusers, and shady government experimentation. It takes place in the 50s.

It has its moments of brilliance. A lot of cringe-worthy stuff too (the acting isn't...great).

I'm hoping Extinct is better.
 
Posted by zlogdanbr (Member # 13374) on :
 
I do hope this makes to Netflix one day. It will be 3 or 4 years after making to American Netflix but it is worth waiting...
 
Posted by SenojRetep (Member # 8614) on :
 
I think Granite Flats went to Netflix fairly quickly (like during it's initial production run). Also, I believe you can stream BYUtv for free, at least within the US.
 
Posted by PanaceaSanans (Member # 13395) on :
 
quote:
400 years after the human race has gone extinct, [we see] a small band of humans who have been revived / brought back into existence by a mysterious alien civilization.
Oh, I am late, but I read this just now. And it does sound fascinating. Such a great idea. I really look forward to seeing what they're gonna do with it. [Smile]
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
So, has anyone been watching this? If so, how is it? I have not seen it.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
shall I predict
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
remember that concept fantasy and or sci-fi series that you watched that one time where you realized pretty early in that the actors really weren't selling it and it's a shame but it sure ain't gonna change, but that's kind of no big deal ultimately because of how the pacing is exhausting your willingness to queue up the next episode in the series and if you had to guess it's because of an elegant combination of that the writers just can't write compelling dialogue that validates the puffery of the fantasy and or sci-fi concept and that the budget necessitates that large portions of the storyboarding default to the most low-budget visual framing possible and so it's going to be a ton of conversations in the few sets they actually built and a lot of the rest is going to be stuff like EXTERIOR: WAREHOUSE and EXTERIOR: FIELD and you're like ah yeah mhm I'm already pretty done with this?

okay?

because we've been through that all already right?

okay it's gonna be that but the script is going to be like if a person with literal hams for hands is hitting you over and over with their ham hands and each wet meaty thump of the ham is "it is a mormon theology analogy"
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Well, that was just mean. At least watch a couple episodes before you decide.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
ok i watched four
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Well, were you right?
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
absolutely completely

its a whistlestop tour of 'doing things that make tv sci-fi have the reputation it does' with the added part where this is a piece for a church-run LDS television programming network thing so its primary obligation is to satisfy strict religious programming requirements adherent with the mormon church's censorship and moral message guidelines and this pretty solidly locks in what ethical themes the show must massage endlessly and what its not allowed to touch.

on top of that, the writing is tepid and it creates unintentional comedy. the danger or physical capacity of any being on the planet is circumstantial to the needs of the plot, so I made it about to the point where a 6 or 7 year old looking child was stealth one-shotting the parasite host crew dudes with tiny rocks and then I just couldn't anymore. plot could be summarized with that the ghost robots from bungie's destiny (tm) as part of an attempt to save humanity from an alien force wielding banshees from bungie's halo (tm) brought three humans back to life who had been specifically chosen for their ability to ensure that if they are present in each other's company, at least one of them will pointedly but purposelessly disagree with any given course of action or instruction given to them, no matter how inconsistent with their character this is, and then usually just go along with it. and this happens like all the time. a significant portion of the show's dramatic filler is just "and the characters pause while one of them seemingly at random objects to a thing they are doing or have been asked to do." it's like, oh, is it Abram's turn at the "I must object" lotto to object to instructions from the monolith slab, that he can hear with his monolith slab hearing powers, that have been making him try to convince the others to trust the slab
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Oh well.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
i got to put this in my file of break points - single moments in a piece of media where i know i'm not bothering anymore

https://i.imgur.com/tUIgawd.mp4

*bonk*
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
I bet you think your generation invented sarcasm, but I promise you every single one of us Gen Xers was rolling their eyes daily before you were even born. I’m pretty sure you all learned it by watching us roll our eyes at the Boomers. literal LOL
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
are you sarcastically imitating an old person having a get-off-my-lawn moment or is that a sincere objection to millenials killing the sarcasm industry
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
So I tied an avocado to my belt...
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
are you sarcastically imitating an old person having a get-off-my-lawn moment or is that a sincere objection to millenials killing the sarcasm industry

Just don’t assume you’ve invented anything, as an individual or as a “generation”. ee cummings was hating on caps and punctuation before the Boomers even existed, and sarcasm as a generational thing is (AFAIK) mostly got big with gen Xers. But feel free to keep on keeping on. Every generation has a role to play as critics of the previous ones. (Then you grow up, have your own teenagers who rebel against YOU, and so on).
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I think you presume that Samp thinks he's being innovative (and prioritizes innovation as a value), and that erroneous presumption makes your criticism here come off as remarkably off-target. It's rather like complaining to a Bulls fan that their team doesn't score enough touchdowns.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
off target is one thing, but this is like a completely nonsequitorial cane-shaking that i charitably wanted to presume was itself sarcastic

i continue not to understand the steven generational lecture as a phenomenon
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
Well, if you don’t think you’re being innovative, where does the...self-congratulatory....vibe come from?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Drugs. With Sam it's always drugs.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
A drug called “my generation is special”? LOL

Dude, I’m more than willing to ascribe his behavior to being from a very liberal, urban background, and having never really done much in life. I didn’t want to discount the possibility that he also had some assumption about older generations being fundamentally flawed, instead of just being from more conservative times/places.

It’s a fine line between saying “Feel free to abuse these old conservatives at will” and “you’ll understand more after you’ve actually really tried and failed at some big things in life” or even “you’re a liberal by birth and circumstance. I’m one more by study and thought. Stop patting yourself on the back so hard.” None of these are really the whole truth of how I see the situation.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Yeah, no, it's drugs.
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
So then, what I'm getting is... don't watch it.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by steven:
Well, if you don’t think you’re being innovative, where does the...self-congratulatory....vibe come from?

do you think a person has to believe that their generation invented sarcasm in order to then subsequently use sarcasm

do you think a person has to believe that their generation invented sarcasm in order to dress down a pretty tepid sci-fi tv show
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
additionally the only person here who has even suggested that their own generation had particular significance in terms of the creation or subsequent evolution of sarcasm is you, which makes your pseudoanalysis of my attitude or potential upbringing even more charmingly ironic
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
I like that we are apparently in a competition as to who has the best generation.
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
Nope. Just you.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
I’m not the one who came here unbidden to trash OSC’s work without even watching it first. I have always limited my criticism to his often-embarrassing political behavior.
 
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
 
You’re the only one arguing about this “generation” nonsense. Nobody in the thread so much as even hinted at it before you got on your high horsey.
 
Posted by steven (Member # 8099) on :
 
I’m not “arguing” anything. Did you just go through a divorce or something? What the heck? Why are you so angry?
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
what the fuuck, steven
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
like really what is going on with you
 
Posted by JanitorBlade (Member # 12343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by steven:
I’m not “arguing” anything. Did you just go through a divorce or something? What the heck? Why are you so angry?

Dude, seriously?
 
Posted by Rakeesh (Member # 2001) on :
 
Either a weird and crappy thing to say, or a cruel and crappy thing to say. Both are very possible with steven!
 
Posted by kmbboots (Member # 8576) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by steven:
I like that we are apparently in a competition as to who has the best generation.

I feel that it is my duty as a boomer to tell you to shut up, steven, you johnny-come-lately whippersnapper.
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
I'm with Rakeesh, it's a very cruel crappy thing to say. I've been through a divorce, and it's not something I'd wish on my worst enemy...

Samprimary's posts might seem abrasive at times, but can you not see that a lot of it is dripping with irony...?

What's happened to this place? [Frown]

[ February 08, 2018, 11:28 PM: Message edited by: Nick ]
 
Posted by LudWig (Member # 13490) on :
 
I miss Clive Candy. can we make this thread about how great Clive Candy was
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
No Joke, I worked with Matt Bellows a bit in college in the theatre program.
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LudWig:
I miss Clive Candy. can we make this thread about how great Clive Candy was

Clive Candy has written posts which had nothing to do with his psychological neuroses towards women, Jews, or other various subjects of his fixative bigotries. They were alongside hundreds of posts which were about these things, but they themselves were not.

Clive Candy was only permabanned 3 times and probably only had around 10 to 20 individual sock puppet alts discovered and removed so far.

Every moment Clive Candy spends registering alts to forums that he was banned from for unrepentant, toxic, crazy bigotry that he spends some time originally drawing down and playing it safe with is another moment he is not spending being weird and awful doing other things.
 
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
 
He sparked several good conversations about cookies.
 
Posted by Mr. Y (Member # 11590) on :
 
the edible kind or the browser kind?
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Edible
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Those were some good threads
 
Posted by Samprimary (Member # 8561) on :
 
Those were some good threads

Good times.

To bad that it coincided with a overriding, paralyzing inaction against critically toxic posters
 


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