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Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
What would you all think about having a topic (this one) where people can post a sentence or two (and no more than that) describing a story they need feedback on and asking for volunteers to read and comment on it?

If you think it sounds like a good idea, go ahead and say so here (thereby indicating your willingness to watch for such requests and volunteer), and we'll leave it here for that purpose.

Also, if you think it's a good idea, and you have something that you can describe in a sentence or two that you'd like feedback on, go ahead and post that here, too. (It is to be hoped that you will be willing to volunteer for someone else's story sometime, later.)

If you don't think it sounds like a good idea, then don't post here, and let the topic die a deserved death.

Thanks.
 


Posted by JK (Member # 654) on :
 
It does sound like a good idea, Kathleen. Though I would ask why you don't just put the people who are interested in Writer's Groups, since that's pretty much what they are. *shrugs* I don't know. I'm interested, though.
JK
 
Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
Thanks, JK.

The main difference is that this topic is for one-shot deals.

Groups are supposed to be for a year and require more commitment, as well as give and take.

Some reasons I'm willing to even give this a try are

1) to see if the one-shot experience will help people see that a group is even a better deal,

2) to help those who aren't able to make a group commitment,

3) give critiquing experience to people in a less formal situation.

I figure it's worth a try. <shrug>
 


Posted by SiliGurl (Member # 922) on :
 
I'd certainly be interested... count me in!


 


Posted by kwsni (Member # 970) on :
 
Me too! I'm in!

Ni!
 


Posted by epiquette (Member # 1272) on :
 
I like this idea, but I think for novels we have to allow at least three sentences.

Erk
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
But this is intended for one-shot stories, and novels don't qualify (they require more commitment, for one thing).

If someone has a novel they need feedback on, they should join a Hatrack group--we have some that are just for novels.
 


Posted by Skolovic (Member # 1341) on :
 
I think it is a very good idea, and I will try and go along with it.
 
Posted by Heimdall (Member # 1323) on :
 
How do I join a group then? I cant seem to do it!
 
Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
You've done all you need to do, Heimdall, which is fill out and submit the form to me.

Sometimes, when someone gets specific about the kind of writing they do and want to read in a group, it takes a little longer for there to be enough people for the group.

I haven't forgotten about you. I promise.
 


Posted by srhowen (Member # 462) on :
 
How about a query package for a novel---they have to be flawless--cover letter and three chapters with synop---would that be ok?

Shawn
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
I actually would like to see more topics limited to discussion of specific story ideas and writing techniques in this part of the forum. I suppose that you could set up another forum for it, called Limited discussions on specific story ideas and techniques, or something. But I feel that they could have a place here.

I like the essential format that you laid out, I just don't relish the idea of reading through three full pages of one line story ideas freely interspersed with various comments on them, in no particular order. I very much like the idea of having those one line descriptions ordered by how recent the discussion is, with a hyperlink to each one.

Just for the record, I also like topics exploring novel story devices, interesting developements in science, new thoughts on philosophy, and the like. In fact, I'd like to go and post just such a topic now.
 


Posted by JP Carney (Member # 894) on :
 
Survivor, (Kathleen, correct me if I'm wrong), the idea isn't to post stories, or even provide comments to stories on line, on the boards. Rather, the idea is to submit a synopsis on the boards, and if someone is interested in reading/critiquing it, they contact the writer directly and they figure out how to exchange the story themselves. The only thing going on the boards is the synop (and I suppose a reply to read, though I would expect that would be best done privately as not to clutter up the thread).

Thoughts?

JP
Edited in
Oh, and count me in!

[This message has been edited by JP Carney (edited January 15, 2002).]
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
Thank you, JP.

I suppose I should have laid down more ground rules in my original, topic-starting post, but I was still just asking for yeas and nays then.

So to be more specific on to procedure:

Only short works (novel submission packets should be analyzed in groups just as novels should be) can be synopsized here, and they should be synopsized in no more than two sentences.

Any volunteers should contact the author directly via email--there's a button provided for just that purpose with each post. The author can then decide, presumably on the basis of posts people have made here at Hatrack, which ones to send the story to. (An author may say to anyone, "Thank you, but I think I have enough volunteers now.")

All discussion of the story should take place in email as should all arrangements for feedback. We don't need to know who is involved or what they say.

Any questions? Anything I've forgotten?
 


Posted by JK (Member # 654) on :
 
I feel fairly transparent about all this now (meaning I'm clear on what this thing is). Sounds interesting, though I don't want to commit to another project before I finish some more of the ones I've already started.
I shall watch with interest, though.
JK
 
Posted by Cosmi (Member # 1252) on :
 
great idea! count me in!

TTFN & lol

Cosmi
 


Posted by WillC (Member # 185) on :
 
I get it!

You post a 2 sentence summary, essentially asking for a personalized crit group. This way you get interested takers right off the bat, pretty much assuring regular feedback.

Cool idea -- my vote ie aye!

Willis Couvillier
 


Posted by JP Carney (Member # 894) on :
 
I have a question. Will this happen on this thread, a new thread, or on an entirely different section from the Open Discussion forum we're presently in? If possible, it might be good to be it's own forum? At the least, perhaps a new thread in this forum?

JP
 


Posted by Doc Brown (Member # 1118) on :
 
I'd be happy to participate as time permits.
 
Posted by kwsni (Member # 970) on :
 
Would unfinished stuff work too? I like where my stuff is going, but it takes me forever, just cause I write in peices.
I'm definitely interested, even if I can't finish anything.

NI!
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
JP, I had intended for this to be the place where people would post their two sentence descriptions.

Do you really think we need to start another topic for that?

kwsni, if you want volunteers to help you brainstorm on a story fragment, and can describe what you've already done in two sentences, that should be okay. Just make sure people know that you are asking for brainstorming feedback instead of critiquing feedback.
 


Posted by JP Carney (Member # 894) on :
 
Kathleen, here would be fine, I guess. If it was in its own forum, then there would be more tendancy for people to comment on the boards. As a single thread, people would (conceivably) just scroll through the list of proposals and pick what interested them. of course we've spent some space in this thread simply discussing the idea, so that would proceed all the ideas, unless we stop talking about it <grin>. Was just wondering out loud.

My only request to everyone would be to please, please, keep the critiquing and brainstorming private, don't fill up the thread with lots of stuff ancillary to the purpose. A simple here's my idea/synopsis and perhaps a simple I have enough responses thanks, will do. At least as I see Kathleen envisioning this (though I know things have a way of evolving on their own).

JP
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
AMEN! on the prohibition of critiques and brainstorming in this topic. (I'll just delete any such that I see here.)

I like the idea of having people post when they have enough critiquers. Or they can email me to let me know that. Either way, I can then delete the posts relevant to that particular request for feedback (and keep the number of posts down).
 


Posted by Ruralpunk (Member # 1342) on :
 
Are the details worked out, then? I've got a story idea I'd like some brainstorming on. It's been bugging me for some time...

A wealthy immigrant (the Baron)in a small postwar Georgian town owns most the property, the bank, the mill, etc, and pretty much runs the place. The story follows the sherriff around as the abuses of the Baron against the townfolk mount and climaxes when the good, kind, down-home, peace-loving people destroy the Baron and leave him hanging in a tree.

The problem I have is justifying the viciousness of the Baron.
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Actually, you have more to justify; exactly how 'the Baron' has gotten into power, why he is allowed to evade the reach of Federal and State law, why the townsfolk have remained in complicity with him for so long (as at least some of them must have, unless he was a superman or something), and not least why 'tis okay for these same people to execute a man for the sins of many (my gut tells me this usually happens because a lynching is cheaper than a trial and leaves the door open for locals to seize a bit of the 'defendent's' property).

One sentence paragraph, how about that? Anyway, I stopped keeping up with this thread some time ago, so it wasn't until I was thinking about it because of recent things that I revisited it, only to find that the first story summary ended the topic! Why didn't anyone respond, anyway?

Anyway, if you want another story idea, how about a far future galactic or intergalactic civilization that uses controlled wormholes for near instantaneous interstellar travel? This futuristic human empire is held together by a near religious cult of humanity, or of the Empire itself, and policed by immortal imperial lords with superpowers (basic stuff, like superintellect and superperceptive, plus being immortal and indestructable). So one day, while going about her business (just having exterminated a dangerous anti-imperial cult with the help of her handy super strong [but otherwise normal human girl] sidekick) she steps through a vortex gate (I just think 'vortex gate' is cooler and more descriptive than 'wormhole') but instead of being transported back to the seat of the Imperium of Mankind she lands on Earth in the early 21st century (nearly losing her composure in the process).

On the plus side, she speaks a highly evolved version of Latin (I thought of Chinese, but Chinese is too phonetically divergent to be recognizable after several dozen millenia, so she can only read it, not speak it), she is super smart, super perceptive, immortal, has a killer (but fetchingly innocent) sidekick, and right away meets a cooperative local who speaks enough Spanish and collegiate English to make out the basics of her vocabulary.

On the down side, she is cut off from the Imperium of Mankind, trapped on a backwards, warring planet filled with deviants of the sort that she would ordinarially be exterminating but can't because she knows perfectly well that she's in the past and dares not exterminate humanity before they can become a interstellar species (details of human prehistory are sketchy, but she's pretty sure the empire wasn't established until a thousand years after the diaspora).
 




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