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Posted by cvgurau (Member # 1345) on :
 
Bill Hicks was a comedian who believed that a good comedian makes people laugh, but a great comedian makes people laugh and think at the same time. A great comedian tries to better his audience, to enlighten them in some way.

I’ve thought about it, and I’ve decided that I agree. That is that makes a great comedian. At the same time, it’s what makes a great writer, too. (It would have to be, or else I couldn’t post it here, could I?) A good writer pulls you into the story and distracts you for a couple of hours, or days, or weeks, or however long it takes you to finish the story, but a great writer will pull you into a world that you don’t want to leave. A great writer will create a page-turner that, when you’re done, will make you want to put the book down and stare at the ceiling, going “Why did that happen? Why did it happen like that?” or “How would I have done it differently? What if it really happened? What if I lived there, under that oppression, or slavery?”

A great writer writes about issues that affect the real world, without necessarily reflecting the real world (if that makes any sense), writing about themes and issues that run parallel to today’s world, that transcend time and space, and that can be heatedly discussed ten years from now, fifty, one hundred and fifty years from now, and still be relevant here, in France, Russia, Japan, or on the moon.

That’s a great writer. That’s who I strive to be.

I just thought I’d share that with you. Just ‘cuz.

“I’m going to share with you a vision that I’ve had. ‘Cuz I love you. And you feel it. You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense every year? Trillions of dollars, correct? Instead, instead, just play with this, if we spent that money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, and it would pay for it many times over, not one human being excluded, we could as one race explore outer space together in peace, forever.”

--Bill Hicks, “Sane Man”

CVG

PS--Okay, no more coffee in the night time. It’s way too weird. It makes me rant. It ain’t pretty when I rant. Obviously. *shrug* [sighs, coughs uncomfortably, and quickly gets off soapbox]

PPS--About the subject title: I’m just playing.

Had you going, though, huh?

edited to add:
PPPS--Bill Hicks: not for the young or easily offended, but he does have some interesting views on the JFK assassination, the cross that Christians and Catholics wear ("do you think that when Jesus Christ comes back he ever wants to see another cross?), and music with soul.

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Posted by MaryRobinette (Member # 1680) on :
 
So, has writing "outlining" in the topic field become the same as writing "SEX". Just a cheap ploy to make people look?

That said, I think you make some interesting points.
 


Posted by cvgurau (Member # 1345) on :
 
Not really. I just thought it would be funny.

Other than that...thanks.

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Posted by Eric Sherman (Member # 2007) on :
 
See, that's why everyone should read books by Terry Pratchett. Funny, and they make you think.

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Posted by punahougirl84 (Member # 1731) on :
 
CV - you'd like the bumper sticker that says:

"Imagine if our schools had all the money they needed, and the Air Force had to have a bake sale to buy a bomber?"

Sort of along the same lines. I forget the organization that has that motto, but as a teacher I always liked it.

Actually, I wish we could have some of that money go to making it possible for people to feed and clothe themselves - to have the circumstances in which they can do it, as opposed to relying on charity. Some will have to go to defense until the have nots become haves, and don't need to go after what the haves have!
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
quote:
“I’m going to share with you a vision that I’ve had. ‘Cuz I love you. And you feel it. You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense every year? Trillions of dollars, correct? Instead, instead, just play with this, if we spent that money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, and it would pay for it many times over, not one human being excluded, we could as one race explore outer space together in peace, forever.”

--Bill Hicks, “Sane Man”


Bill has obviously never bothered himself to so much as look at a pie chart of our national budget. It's one of those "nice ideas", like saying "let's give the Sun lots of icecream on hot days, then it wouldn't be so hot!"

Sure kid, good thinking there.

By the way, I'm writing a book that essentially has as its thesis that it'd be cool to live as a war slave of the Evil Empire, so make what you will of my comments.

P.S. I don't think that Christ will have a huge problem with the crosses (particularly ones made of silver). It's the crucifixes that would be creepy.
 


Posted by Jules (Member # 1658) on :
 
<i>I'm writing a book that essentially has as its thesis that it'd be cool to live as a war slave of the Evil Empire, so make what you will of my comments.</i>

Yikes. Programming for Microsoft, cool! That's what I call SF.
 




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