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Posted by muogin (Member # 1963) on :
 
Hello,

Since so many of the greatest directors talk about the script being really the greatest proponent of a great film (DUH!)...

and so many authors complain about the castration and mutilation of their works, (Which in some cases can be so bad?)

Why don't more writers become directors? I mean all the "complaint" energies could be positively channeled from...

"Why didn't those bastards do it this way?"

to

"We are doing it this way, you bastards!"

Your thoughts, q's comments? etc?

Thanks,
Muogin
 


Posted by Elan (Member # 2442) on :
 
Because you can't compare writing and directing. They are two completely different skillsets.

Directors have a thousand details to manage, many of them specific to the film industry. Where do the cameras go? What angle will the shot be? How will it be edited? The list, I'm sure, is extensive.

Writing is only one facet of the overall production. In short, if a writer wants to become a director, there's always film school.
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
You don't become a director to protect your work, you become a producer. (If you have the stomach and the nerves for the business, that is.)

Producers can fire directors, after all.
 


Posted by Spaceman (Member # 9240) on :
 
Or you start your own small film-making company, as two writera I know are doing.
 
Posted by Void (Member # 2567) on :
 
This brings up an interesting question. As writers, I suppose we all dream that one day our work will be made into a movie. How do we protect it? It's not feasible that we all become producers.
 
Posted by Three Minute Egg (Member # 2523) on :
 
I think you would need to get some emotional detachment from a work if it's going to be turned into a movie. Good books don't necessarily mean good movies, and the story may be changed significantly to fit the new medium.

That's not to say you can't write a book with a movie in mind. Happens all the time.
 


Posted by Blue_Rabbit (Member # 2634) on :
 
Errr. Political corectness issues. No Polish jokes, please.
They are not funny.

[This message has been edited by Blue_Rabbit (edited June 10, 2005).]
 


Posted by HSO (Member # 2056) on :
 
That joke wouldn't be funny no matter whose nationality, ethnicity, or hair color was plugged into it. (And I'm one of the least PC persons on this board -- I hate political correctness.)

For crying out loud, Andrew, have some sense and delete it already. There are better ways of making your point.

Now it might be funny if we picked on ET's. That is, of course, until we discover that such beings do exist. I would also take no offense if you plugged in "politician", but be wary of thinking that means plugging in Democrats or Republicans or whatever, because it doesn't -- I believe we should treat all politicians with equal disdain. Furthermore, I wouldn't personally take offense if you plugged in "PETA advocate/employee" either, but some might. Someone might like to see "lawyer" up there, but I actually know some decent lawyers, so I would find it a bit unfair.

Really, it's best just to avoid the joke altogether -- don't you think?
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
quote:
This brings up an interesting question. As writers, I suppose we all dream that one day our work will be made into a movie. How do we protect it? It's not feasible that we all become producers.

Void, as 3ME said, if you sell movie rights, you just have to let it go.

As Andrew implied, writers are way, way down in the Hollywood pecking order. Not even Stephen King can affect what happens to his books when they are made into movies--even when he is involved in the process as script writer or in some other capacity.

Get the best deal you possibly can (which will probably not be all that good*) and take the money and forget about it.

*I understand that the author of FORREST GUMP thought he was being clever by asking for a percentage of the profits from the movie. Because of joint accounting, the movie did not make a profit, so he got zip.
 


Posted by Survivor (Member # 213) on :
 
Just don't sell the movie rights if you feel that way.
 
Posted by Void (Member # 2567) on :
 
Hmm, do you think that would make an interesting movie? The best-selling author whose work gets mutilated and debauched in the Hollywood gristmill? No, probably not.
 
Posted by Kolona (Member # 1438) on :
 
The word 'hypocritical' comes to mind in the following ongoing scenario:
Authors' works regularly get "mutilated and debauched in the Hollywood gristmill," as Void so well wrote. Some enterprising souls like the folks at CleanFlicks.com and FamilyTimeMovies.com cater to people desiring cleaner fare, and edit out the offensive parts of movies for them. Hollywood types get all indignant and have the nerve to complain that their 'art' is being destroyed.

I'm with Survivor -- don't sell movie rights -- although I've heard it's hard for first-time authors to hold onto them.
 


Posted by HSO (Member # 2056) on :
 
Here's my opinion:

Avoid the film business. It's not worth the grief. If you want to sell your story to a production company, then do as Kathleen suggests. Sell it and forget about it. Once you sell it, it is no longer your story. That is how you must see it. If you think they'll let you have any input on the screenplay, you're dead wrong.

Let's say you want to write a screenplay or even an adaptation. Perhaps it's astoundingly good. But that doesn't matter, because once someone buys your script, the first thing they will do is change it to suit their creative vision. You cannot prevent this from happening. You will be forced to give up all creative rights once it is sold, and you will most likely not even be told about it. The chances of them letting you see and comment on rewrites are equal to the chances of you ever leaving our solar system.

That said, the chances of any screenplay you've written being made into a movie are only slightly better in Hollywood. If you really care about your screenplay and you want to protect your vision, then you must go independent and produce, direct, and finance it all on your own.

One more thing. Let's say you do get a screenplay purchased. Woohoo! They send you some paltry payment, which you accept. Then, they rewrite your screenplay and guess what: you don't receive credit for it. No one will ever know it was originally your story. (This could be a blessing by the time they are done with it, so don't despair.) You gave up all your rights once you sold it. Sure, some contracts differ and maybe you'll be mentioned somewhere, but it probably won't be that coveted "Written by:" credit.

Look at what is happening to OSC's Ender's Game in Hollywood. Initially, he wrote a screenplay for that. He's not the writer now. He'll get a credit saying it was adapted from his novel, and he'll be paid a guaranteed sum no matter who writes the script... but essentially, there's little he can do to make it happen. I think he's okay with this, as he fully realizes what he's in for, how Hollywood works, etc. When that script is finally written, the studio execs will insist on further changes. If the movie is even vaguely reminscent of OSC's original story, it will be small miracle.

I normally would never discourage anyone from writing, but I always discourage people from writing screenplays. It's not what you know, how well you write, or anything like that. It's who you know in Hollywood more than anything else. And even that means next to nothing. Whoever is spending the money to make the film has final say... It's a horrible business for the unprepared. It is not worth the heartache.

 


Posted by AndrewR (Member # 1563) on :
 
My apologies for anyone who was offended by my misguided piece of humor. I tried to make it as inoffensive as I could, but I guess it wasn't quite enough.
 
Posted by HSO (Member # 2056) on :
 
quote:
I tried to make it as inoffensive as I could, but I guess it wasn't quite enough.

So there was a more offensive version? And you toned it down some and ended up with what you had? I am at a complete loss for words...
 


Posted by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (Member # 59) on :
 
Okay, HSO.

Thank you for the apology, Andrew.
 




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